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Mac Q3 2007 market share: 3.19 percent worldwide, less than 8.3 percent in the US (Updated)

Update: My meager math skills strike again, sorry. I've updated this to include Apple's retail sales.

Last week, there were preliminary reports from IDC and Gartner suggesting that Apple's share of the US personal computer market in the third quarter of 2007 was as high as 8.1 percent.  These reports were untrue. In fact, Apple's market share in that time period in the US was likely much less than that, and much closer to the 6.3 percent cited in other reports.

Now that Apple has released its financial results for the quarter, we can compare its numbers with quarterly estimates from IDC and Gartner. Long-time Internet Nexus readers are familiar with this process: What I do is average the IDC and Gartner numbers to obtain reasonably accurate worldwide and US sales numbers for the quarter. Then I look at Apple's numbers and see what percentage the Mac accounted for both worldwide and in the US.

According to Gartner, PC makers sold 68.5 million PCs in the quarter. IDC says the figure is 66.85 million. The average of those two figures is 67.68 million.

According to Gartner, PC makers sold 16.6 million PCs in the quarter. IDC says the figure is 17.9 million. The average of those two figures is 17.25 million.

Apple says it sold 2.16 million Macs in the quarter worldwide. That places its worldwide market share at 3.19 percent.

US market share is a bit more complex to compute. As it turns out, Apple doesn't provide US-only numbers. It did report, however, that it sold 965,00 Macs in the Americas, which I assume is all of North and South America, plus 473,000 units a retail worldwide (most of which were likely in the US given the mix of Apple's stored). Overall, the US is probably a big chunk of all that (60 percent? 75?). If the US were all of it, Mac market share in the US would have been 8.3 percent, or about the same as 8.1 percent figure that was bandied about last week. However, it's likely much less than that. For example, 75 percent of 8.3 percent is 6.25 percent. My guess is that's much closer to reality. I wish Apple would just break out US figures and settle this.

As for the other PC makers, here's how the top five came out both worldwide and in the US, from a ranking perspective:

Worldwide
1. HP
2. Dell
3. Lenovo/Acer (tie)
5.Toshiba

US
1. Del
2. HP
3. Apple
4. Toshiba
5. Gateway

Published Oct 22 2007, 03:33 PM by pthurrott
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October 22, 2007 3:59 PM
 

jtyyz said:

Before the Apple fanboys pounce on you, I think your numbers are off. Apple's press release shows 965 000 units for Americas, but it also lists 473 000 units for Retail, which if I'm not mistaken is almost entirely in the US. I think you need to add the two (and as you said subtract for all the other 'Americas').

October 22, 2007 4:06 PM
 

bkvalheim said:

More importantly to Apple though:

1. Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers, representing 34 percent growth over the year-ago quarter and exceeding the previous quarterly record for Mac® shipments by 400,000.

2. The Company sold 10,200,000 iPods during the quarter, representing 17 percent growth over the year-ago quarter.

3. “We are very pleased to have generated over $24 billion in revenue and $3.5 billion in net income in fiscal 2007,”

4. Apple ended the fiscal year with $15.4 billion in cash and no debt,”

October 22, 2007 4:45 PM
 

cesjr said:

Actually IDC estimated 6.3 percent, which is not too far off your 5.59 percent.  

Also, half of 8.1 percent is 4.05 percent.  So your statement about half is wrong.

October 22, 2007 5:55 PM
 

johnpapola said:

Paul,

I know you love to be contrarian when it comes the mac, but seriously... you aren't helping your image with this post.  I just don't see the point.  Apple is growing at a rate many multiples higher than the broader PC industry.  They have a market cap that now exceeds HP (and for the moment IBM as well) and more than doubles Dell.

There's simply ZERO negative here.  Apple has no control over IDC and Gartner.  As is often the case, you're conflating the statements and hype of third parties with that of Apple itself.  Between this and all the digs against Leopard, I get the feeling you might be enjoying a little Mac-user baiting.

October 22, 2007 6:08 PM
 

gredo said:

I'm always amazed at Paul's obsession with market share.  I would guess with a market value higher than both Dell and HP, Apple is less than worried with their standing in today's tech market.  

October 22, 2007 7:47 PM
 

Yawn! said:

jtyyz, correctly pointed out that Paul's matrix and the data he uses may contain a flaw.  I have emailed Paul about this and asked him to re-examine the data he is using.  

There is no reason to be an ass about this issue.  I truly believe that Paul's has one of the better Matrix's used for best  guessing  market share.

I will wait for Paul to post his answer.  Until then please try to be nice.  

Vista (sp2)

October 22, 2007 8:20 PM
 

Cfischer83 said:

I'm surprised by a few things. First, that Gateway is now number 5 when it was number 3 and then bought by Acer, and also that Dell replaces HP at the top of the US market.

I'm guessing that at this rate (if you are a uniformitarianist, which I'm not but we'll say I am for this argument) that Apple will be where Microsoft is in about 100 years. They are growing but there are a number of reasons for that. 1) Windows works on the mac now, so people may buy it for that Windows. In some jobs you need to have both OSes for development testing, so that's one less PC being sold for someone who can use both. 2) Since the move to Intel, people have to throw out there old ones and buy new ones... pretty soon that won't be an issue as no one will have their PowerPC's anymore.

October 22, 2007 11:06 PM
 

L2 said:

.....more Apple/OS X talk huh?

You dudes are like little boys who have a crush on a girl but you’re too embarrassed to say you do. This includes you too PAUL!

Ridiculous! LOL!

October 23, 2007 7:12 AM
 

MaryW said:

Paul, I do wish you had not 'updated' your post. I think you are adding to your reader's confusion as-well as fostering the notion that Apple's share of the computer pie is much larger than reality!

First of all that headline! "Less than 8.3 percent" just does not have the same punch as something like "Gartner and IDC fraudulently inflate the Mac market share"

Dam right those figures are "untrue". If they think that adding the word "preliminary" means that they are not actually lying through their teeth..... well it just beggars belief.

On Thursday Microsoft will be reporting figures of over 60 million Vista systems sold in q3. With over 75% of those (take away the number you first thought of) in the US that makes the Mac share about 2.356711%

October 23, 2007 9:54 AM
 

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