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Facts and figures from the high-definition DVD wars

The New York Times this morning published an interesting article describing the battle over next-generation DVD formats:

What if nobody wins the high-definition DVD format wars? That increasingly looks to be the situation for the next-generation DVD technology, which is available to consumers in two incompatible formats.

Here are some facts and figures from the article:

Consumers will have purchased a combined 1 million Blu-Ray and HD DVD players by the end of 2007. Of these, 578,000 are HD DVD, while 370,000 Blu-Ray players have sold. This doesn't include the Blu-Ray-equipped PlayStation 3, however: Sony will have sold 3.4 million PS3s by the end of 2007. Microsoft meanwhile, has sold 300,000 HD DVD drive add-ons for the Xbox 360 as well.

Both formats offer about 400 movies. There are 90,000 DVDs offered on Netflix.

Studios in the HD DVD camp: Dreamworks, Paramount, Universal, Weinstein, Warner Bros.

Studios in the Blu-Ray camp: Columbia, Disney, Fox, Lionsgate, Miramax, New Line, Sony, Warner Bros.

Percentage of HDTV buyers who expect to purchase a high-definition DVD player by early 2008: 11

Least expensive 1080i HD DVD player: $200

Least expensive 1080p HD DVD player: $250

Least expensive 1080p Blu-Ray player: $280

Price of a combo unit from LG: $1000

Number of HD DVD-equipped notebook computers that will sell by the end of 2008: 5 million

Blu-Ray owners are purchasing twice as many HD discs as are HD DVD drive owners.

Formats offered at Blockbuster and Netflix: Both. ("Of Blockbuster’s 5,000 physical stores, 250 offer both high-definition DVD formats, while 1,450 rent only Blu-ray; the rest offer none. The company emphasizes Blu-ray because 70 percent of its rentals are for that format.")

We finally upgraded to a 1080p HDTV a few months ago and I immediately plugged in a Blu-Ray-equipped PS3 and HD DVD-based Xbox 360 to compare the two formats. Neither has an audio or video advantage from what I can tell, but both are significantly better than any DVD- or digital download movie I've ever seen, and by a wide margin. On Demand from FIOS TV doesn't hold up either, though some of the live HD content I've seen, like that on HDNet Movies, can come pretty close. That said, both Blu-Ray and HD DVD are kind of a tough sell right now.

One slightly related factoid: The Xbox 360 does a much better job of unconverting upconverting normal DVD movies than the PS3. And this is true even when the Xbox 360 is connected via a non-HDMI input and the PS3 is on HDMI. I'm not sure what Sony is getting wrong here exactly, but the difference is staggering.

Regardless of which format, if either, ever wins, one thing is clear: Once you go HD, you'll never want to go back. Ever.

Comments

 

matt.brown said:

I have had my sympathies with HD DVD from the beginning, but the price lowering on the blu-ray side is tempting me to pick a blu-ray player up. One format will win (or they will co-exist), because it is not unreasonable now to think that one person would own an HD DVD player and a blu-ray player.

December 31, 2007 1:47 PM
 

Cfischer83 said:

Maybe your TV isn't displaying it accurately? I'm not a fanboi of either, but I can say for certain that blue-ray is a lot more clear than HD! I've watched about a dozen or so blu-ray movies and, except for the few older ones that were converted after the fact, they couldn't get any clearer! I've also seen the two side-by-side at a display in my local Best Buy and after looking at the blue-ray for a minute and moving my eyes back to the HD, the HD looked almost blurry!

I do have my issues with blue-ray though... that being that it's almost too clear! While watching Spiderman 3 I could see every pore and blemish on the actors faces... who wants to see that? :|

but I couldn't care less who wins the format wars... I don't own either (and won't until I can be sure the one I choose won't go under).

December 31, 2007 3:32 PM
 

jaw04005 said:

I have the exact opposite experience with upscaling than Paul. On my 1080p Samsung, the PS3 does a much better job upscaling with more consistent colors. However, my XBOX 360 Elite leaves something to be desired.

It could be subjective, and depend on the TV. But, you did turn upscaling on the PS3 on? It's not on by default.

I believe there is "double", "full" and "normal" upscaling. You might try each of those for your particular HDTV. Double works great for me.

In regards to upscaling, we shouldn't really even need such a feature—as our  HDTVs should do that properly using their own built-in processing. However, if your HDTV has a lousy SD scaler, you may find better results with an upscaling DVD player (or PS3 or XBOX 360).

December 31, 2007 5:18 PM
 

Xtreem0 said:

those comparisons at bestbuy are bogus. I remember they tried to compare dvd to Blueray and the dvd looked like a vhs move. Everything was fuzzy. I think bestbuy is pushing towards blueray so they are sortove cheeting on the comparasons. I have seen boath of them and on the same tv. They look the same. The only real difference is that blueray can hold more space then hd dvd.

December 31, 2007 8:42 PM
 

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matt.brown said:

Cfischer83 something must be wrong with your set-up because the only difference between HD DVD and blu-ray is the storage capacity of the disc. Both use similar if not the same video and audio codecs.

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Waethorn said:

"I'm not sure what Sony is getting wrong here exactly, but the difference is staggering."

At the risk of taking this conversation on a slightly off-course tangent, why can't Sony perform upscaling to take the PSP's output from 480x272p to a full 720x480i/p NTSC-widescreen resolution so that game output is full screen on a TV?

I mean, the modders already do that, but I'm not about to risk bricking mine to do something that's unsupported.  You can even scale video playback with the built-in controls, but game playback via the TV output cable is somewhat broken.  Likewise, the wireless functionality is horribly flakey, but that's a completely different story.

Anyway, it seems that Sony is letting technology challenges get the better of them, which is kind of sad considering that they've always been [unjustifiably] deemed the benchmark for other electronics manufacturers.  Rob Enderle's latest report describes them in a fairly unfavorable light too....

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sayguh said:

Xbox upscales better then PS3?  Really since when?  Every time I play a DVD in it it plays at 480p?   Or are you talking about the HD DVD drive?  For some reason I've never tried a regular dvd in the HD DVD drive... is that what does the upscaling?   I'll have to give that a try tonight.

But I think PS3 does a great job of upscaling.  

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