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The Thin Skin of Apple Fans

This one requires little in the way of commentary. Because it's true:

IN his new book, "True Enough: Learning to Live in a Post-Fact Society," Farhad Manjoo, a writer for Salon, argues that "new communications technologies are loosening the culture's grip on what people once called 'objective reality.'"

In an excerpt posted this week, he looks at an area where facts often become particularly slippery, specifically perceived bias in the news media against, of all things, a technology company: Apple.

"Last year," Mr. Manjoo writes, "I praised the iPhone in something of the way Romeo once praised Juliet: The device, I said, is revolutionary — 'it marks a new way of life. One day we'll all have iPhones, or things that aim to do what this first one does, and your life will be better for it.'"

But because he mentioned that the phone was a bit pricey, "several readers alleged that I was an Apple-hater." One wrote him to ask, "Does Salon actually pay you or are you being paid under the table by rival companies?"

Anybody who has ever written about Apple products will tell the same story — introducing even a hint of negativity into a review or article will bring down the wrath of Apple's most fanatical fans.

The phenomenon is particularly stark when it comes to opinionated reviews — however laudatory — of Apple products. That's because many Apple fans "care little for honest opinion," Mr. Manjoo writes. "They want to pick up the paper and see in it a reflection of their own nearly religious zeal for the thing they love. They don't want a review. They want a hagiography."

Exactly.

And for your edification: The definition of hagiography.

Published Mar 22 2008, 11:55 AM by pthurrott
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notawindowsuser said:

The Problem is that people like Farhad Manjoo and you (Paul) is that you paint all Mac users with the same brush.

"several readers alleged that I was an Apple-hater. ", several readers, what 1,2,3,4 or 5, yet here you are Paul painting a picture that all Mac users want a "reflection of their own nearly religious zeal", when the truth is all you want to do is drive clicks to your site.

March 22, 2008 11:01 AM
 

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March 22, 2008 11:12 AM
 

johnpapola said:

Paul Thurrott's  "I'm utterly and ludicrously obsessed with a self-described tiny fringe of users of a platform I consider inferior" Blog.

Well look at that, Paul.  Another writer on the internet got a few comments from crazies about their favorite subject.  THIS IS JUST CRAZY.  THESE PEOPLE ARE NOTHING LIKE ANY OTHER ZEALOTS ON THE INTER-WEB.

This isn't a dead horse... it's fuel from a long fossilized dead horse.

March 22, 2008 11:23 AM
 

Rasken said:

Nowhere does Mr. Farhad or Paul generalize this as all Mac users.  

They clearly mention that this is a segment of the Mac userbase that does this, aka the fanboi.

I believe the perception is that Apple seems to have a higher % of fanboi among it's adopters than any other technology company.

Paul has had his fair share of encounters with the fanboi.  I see em religiously on a lot of Windows-centric, blogs too, bashing away at any type of Windows news.

March 22, 2008 11:42 AM
 

brandon.pope said:

Exactly.  I have been following Paul's blogs for a while now and there aren't to many more people out there who get hated on more by the Apple Fanboys, the really extreme guys.  It is almost funny how religious a few commenters are on this blog when it comes to 'avenging' Apple each time they are shows to have some kind of flaw, no matter how small or realistic.

In fact we will probably see the same Apple possy show up here in a day or so, guns a blazing because Paul hinted that maybe there is something negative about a small percentage of the Apple fan base.  

http://www.chipnit.com

March 22, 2008 12:49 PM
 

weedmonk said:

Switch to decaf and add shot of JD to you coffee JP....:p

March 22, 2008 12:50 PM
 

lotsamystuff said:

The only thing worse than a thin-skinned Apple fan is a thin-skinned Windows blogger who considers himself to be the sole voice of reason in an otherwise empty forest, and trolls for hits by damning the competition with faint praise and smarmy commentary.

Not that we know anyone like that *cough* Enderle, Thurrott *cough*

March 22, 2008 1:00 PM
 

Waethorn said:

"The only thing worse than a thin-skinned Apple fan is a thin-skinned Windows blogger...."

still trying to elevate yourself again losta?

"....who considers himself to be the sole voice of reason in an otherwise empty forest, and trolls for hits by damning the competition with faint praise and smarmy commentary."

backatcha!

March 22, 2008 6:49 PM
 

cesjr said:

I guarantee that Farhad Manjoo wrote something that was factually wrong about the mac or apple at some point - it always starts out this way - mac users wrote in and pointed out he was wrong, and then, instead of owning up to the mistake (no big deal, everyone makes them), he decided to try to deflect attention from his error to an attack on mac users.  These guys always talk about the "mac crazies" instead of the mistake they made.

March 23, 2008 9:07 AM
 

dougxd said:

Hey 'notawindowsuser'.....

Apparently you don't read this blog much.  I can't count the number of times Paul has commented to the affect:

(I'm paraphrasing here)

The problem with Apple owners is that the few zealots are indirectly and unfortunately inaccurately representing the many.  There are many more "normal" mac users out there than freaks but the fanboy freaks are the ones that give the Mac users on the whole a bad name.

--end of paraphrase--

My own personal observation is that people like my parents who innocently don't know the first thing about all of this nonsense read comments like yours or mine and wonder why mac fanboys are so inherently violent toward others.  No kidding.....it doesn't look good to "outsiders" trying to form an opinion of the ownership rewards and community support.

Splitting hairs won't get anyone anywhere.  Every blogger and reporter is fully entitled to their opinions and are expected to receive feedback....but feedback with substance, not more garbage ranting and one-off jabs that hold no ground.

Keep up the good work Paul.  I like my MBP too, but I don't secretly have sex with it when the "Windows Users" aren't looking.

All done.

March 24, 2008 8:15 AM
 

dougxd said:

cesjr.......

The point of the article was to talk about how one can't seem to opine without receiving the onslaught of fanboys.  He had an opinion about cost.  So what?  Some people buy mercedes and others buy hondas.  What's costly (in any way) for one will surely not be for another.

Paul wrote about this same thing a few weeks ago.  And I agree with him and others who say the same thing......expressing opinions about something should be received by the readers as such.  If you'd like to return a counter opinion, feel free, right?  Just keep in context.....and stop diving off the deep end and stabbing people because your opinion doesn't agree.

March 24, 2008 8:21 AM
 

dougxd said:

weedmonk........

I like where that one leads.  :-)

March 24, 2008 8:25 AM
 

peterkirn said:

Oh, come on ... surely we can stop talking about what "they" are doing. The Mac community is a big community. I just got trashed a couple of days ago for something I wrote months ago by a Windows user who started going off about Mac users and concluded with "where do you get off?" -- all because I was complaining about some specific audio driver issues in Windows, a complaint I had *because I'm a Windows user*. (among other things)

I just don't think it's worth trying for a deeper analysis here. Some of these people are called "Trolls", or at very least, a "Pain In The Ass." We know who they are. We know they're around for each platform. Yes, Mac users have long been better organized in this respect -- but, you know, part of the tradition of the Mac has also been other things. Mac users are known for being passionate about software, about creating supportive user communities. And all of those things are far more productive than the people going around being jerks to journalists.

Bottom line:

A) The Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (as mentioned in that story)

B) The Windows-Mac conflict.

Hmmm... one of these things is probably worth worrying about than the other.

If you chose (B), you need to get out more. ;)

March 24, 2008 9:09 AM
 

theCheez said:

Ok, just one thing here. If you guys are such apple fan boys, but not so religious about Apple why are you reading a windows web site? I sure Paul appreciates the web traffic, but if you're only into apple why spend so much time here on Paul's blog just to wip at him.

You are indeed fitting the description of this post.

March 24, 2008 10:19 AM
 

DRWAM said:

Paul has got some great info on Apple products. He writes well and uses much less metaphorical BS. He tells us strengths capabilities and weakness, and doesn't look through Apple colored glasses. I think he is a closet Apple fanboi. The Windows info that I acquired here made me brave enough to install on Vista my Pro Tower, and now I have the best of both worlds. You know, like Hanna Montanna. Sorry, I have 3 little daughters. It funny how Windows and Apple can achieve harmony. Bliss would be a little too much love for your computer, as Paul reminds us may not be a good thing.

March 24, 2008 6:28 PM
 

Mum said:

Paul is a fanatic as well, no denying that. He just considers himself a superior kind of a fanatic, like all of them do.

March 25, 2008 7:17 AM
 

Dude1313 said:

Sure and Windows users have no fanboys? Riiiiigggggghhhhht.

And you want to talk to the WORST fan boys on the planet/ Go say something negative to a Zune/X-box user (much the same thing in all actuality). See what kinds od responses that garners...

March 25, 2008 2:14 PM
 

brandon.pope said:

The Zune user would probably agree with you.  The Xbox owner wouldn't feel the need to argue cus the Xbox is awesome.  I am still searching for a point here.

April 9, 2008 4:15 PM

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