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What they're not telling you about Apple's 'same day as DVD' deal

I first wrote about this last week in WinInfo Short Takes, but an article by David Carr in today's New York Times once again blurs the lines of reality when it comes to Apple's recent deal with movie companies. In this deal, Apple gets the right to sell movies digitally via iTunes on the same day that the DVD versions appear in the market. Depending on who you talk to, this is "the death of Netflix" at the very least or "the death of the DVD" if you're really out there.

Not so fast.

Curiously, most people who write about this event seem to be missing the fine points of the Apple deal, which in reality doesn't change much at all. As excerpted from Short Takes, these are:

Apple's movies are too expensive. At $14.99 for a new digital download, Apple's movies are still far too expensive, especially when you consider that they don't include any DVD-style special features or, usually, even basic features like closed captioning support. A typical example: "Juno" is $14.99 at iTunes and cannot be rented. You get just the movie, in English, tied to your iTunes account and whatever Apple devices you've authorized. At Amazon.com, the Juno DVD is $15.99 but it includes features not found on the iTunes file, including compatibility with all DVD players, PCs, and Macs sold in the US and Canada, three spoken languages (English, French, Spanish), two subtitles (English, Spanish), and a number of special features, including deleted scenes, a gag reel, a gag take, cast & crew jam, screen tests, and a director's commentary track. A 2-disc version of the movie ($22.99) includes more special features on a second disc. Unlike digital tracks, DVD movies can also be resold.

It's for purchases only, not rentals. The deal doesn't affect rentals, only purchases, so presumably we'll still have to wait 30 days or more to rent new movies at iTunes. This is one of the things the NYT article cited above neatly skipped over, and I feel it's important, as I'll elaborate below.

It's not exclusive, and Apple wasn't even first to market. Apple's deal isn't unique, and it certainly isn't first in any way: PC-oriented movie services like CinemaNow and Movielink have offered same-day movie sales as new DVDs for years. In fact, these services even offer same-day-as-DVD-release rentals, a feature not offered on iTunes. The aforementioned Juno, coincidentally, can now be rented on Movielink for $3.95. It cannot be rented on iTunes.

Apple's losing money on the deal. Because the wholesale price of the movies being sold to Apple is about $16, according to the Wall Street Journal, Apple is losing money on every single movie it sells, continuing the iTunes Store's role as a loss-leader designed almost solely to pimp iPod sales. What this all adds up to, really, is Apple catching up with the rest of the market, while the movie industry continues to sell digital content to consumers at exorbitant prices. Granted, this is iTunes we're talking about, so Apple will likely see bigger success than other services. But even that "success" has been limited so far: Apple sold just 7 million digital movies last year, well below the company's expectations.

There are some other side issues here that bear exploring, but I'll save that for another time. As a teaser, I'd point out two things: That the ongoing migration from physical media (VHS, DVD) in the entertainment world mirrors a similar migration in software delivery, from physical media (floppy, CD, DVD) to subscription services and cloud computing. More pertinent to this story however, is the notion that anyone who is buying digital movies from iTunes (or any other service) is simply wasting their money. The future is anywhere, anytime on-demand delivery of content, delivered as subscription service. The very notion that someone needs to "own" a movie is outdated, especially when that movie is an intangible and demonstrably inflexible DRM-encoded digital file.

Food for thought.

Comments

 

johnpapola said:

You're pretty much right on track with this one Paul.  Subscriptions make WAY more sense for content you'll only watch once or twice.  When iTunes goes for a netflix-style subscription, it will strike gold for the Apple TV.  As the bluray demand has shown, people are pretty happy with DVD-quality.  

The main benefit of iTunes movies over DVDs is for kids movie libraries that need to travel.  I have all of my son's favorite movies ripped in iTunes, with a few bought from the store, and it allows me to travel with his stuff, or serve it up from the Apple TV without having to sit through 15 minutes of screens and trailers, or carrying around and ultimately scratching/losing his DVDs.  It's awesome.  He can watch Nemo on the plane and then we can plug it in at my inlaws at DVD quality (close enough).  

It's also surprisingly great packing away the DVDs and having a video jukebox of all your stuff.  Apple TV rocks for this, especially now that AC-3 audio can be preserved in the rips.  DVD ripping takes pretty long if you don't have a quad-core beast.  Most consumers aren't going to suffer through the rendering times.  Everyone loves to talk about extras... but that stuff is a once-and-done affair and it probably better served over the web anyway.

Still, The hyperbole of any one of these video services killing DVD is ludicrous.  The reality is that nobody in our business is sure where the future leads.  Video consumption is changing, but nobody is sure where it's going.  As for the price differential... let's be honest here.  

The cost of that plastic disc and packaging is pennies.  Same goes for the DVD extras.  Movies cost tens to hundreds of millions to make and market.  The content is the value, not the silly plastic discs.  If Hollywood isn't pricing them appropriately, the market will react with reduced demand.  It's fair for them to try and charge as much as possible.  That's business.  Everyone loves seeing Iron Man, right?  That doesn't come cheap.  Those that think it should be free or of nominal cost should go make their own movies and see how that works out.  Now who makes the money is another matter for another discussion.

Regardless of all of this, clearly, Apple is just doing what it can to get content at the best terms possible for consumers.    The content-owners, rightfully, hold the cards.  They made the stuff.  They have the right to price it.  Period.

May 5, 2008 3:04 PM
 

DRWAM said:

My friend with Netflix has even given up. He's seen all the movies that he wanted to see, and is going to cancel his subscription. Even pay TV has crap.

The pricing is going to have to change for to appeal to all. It's far from a niche market, but some of us would rather buy plastic.

And, to change the subject, my 14 yr old nephew gave his 5 month old Wii to his sister, so that he could get an XBOX for his birthday! He loves the XBOX. Just wanted to let you know Paul.

May 5, 2008 3:29 PM
 

MaryW said:

Paul, what are you not telling us about the point of your post?

You seem to be implying that there is some kind of press conspiracy around Apple's latest movie related announcement. Apple were not the first to do this. Apple are losing money on the deal.... etc etc it's not really that important.

Fine. So what? You  link to the NYT article and  accuse it of "blurring the lines" even though it appears to cover all those points rather fairly. (IMHO)

The WSJ supplied the figures.... so what exactly is it that "they" are not telling us?

It seems to me that the important point here is ... why are the movie studios trying to sell us lower quality/less content films at the exorbitant price of $16.00.

"They" aren't telling me ..... and, Paul, nor are you.

May 5, 2008 3:51 PM
 

BrightrevCarl said:

Meh.  I can rent all the movies I have time to watch from Netflix for $18-whatever per month.  Sometimes I watch movies on my TV and other times I watch them on my all-in-one projector.  Switching between the two is much, much easier with physical media.

To watch a DRM crippled WMV or iTunes movie on my projector, I have to install software on my laptop, authorize it for DRM, plug a VGA cable into the projector, plug my laptop into the wall, monkey around with the power management and screen saver settings and hope an antivirus or other update doesn't interrupt the movie.  Oh yeah, and my laptop doesn't have any remote control capability.

To watch a DVD on my projector, I click the eject button, put the DVD in and push the drive closed.  Why would I want the hassle of electronic media again?

I'm not trying to be a Luddite here.  My point is that it's still pretty complicated to get movies to various home theater devices without physical media.  I also understand that some folks want to watch movies and TV on their laptops or iPods, and that's fine.  This works better for them.  Electronic media, especially DRM'd media, just doesn't work for the way I watch movies.

May 5, 2008 4:00 PM
 

Lindy said:

From my observation.....

1.) Nobody watches the extra's.

2.) If someone is going to buy digital media, they really dont care about DRM...if they even know what it is.

3.) I am sick of dealing with physical media.  I know lots of people that are sick of it.  My CD player in my cars are almost never used anymore.  The auxiliary jack is.

4.) If you are going to actually buy a movie from iTunes, you will have something to watch it on and you are ok with it.....hence you wont foresee a limitation.

5.) @BrightrevCarl  Apple makes this great little device called Apple TV.  This whole movie rental/purchase was rapped around it early this year.  Call me crazy but its even easier to use than your DVD player, you just "push" play.  No tray, no disk to scratch.  Why would I hassle with that physical media?

May 5, 2008 7:54 PM
 

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May 5, 2008 11:51 PM
 

pthurrott said:

Mary, my point isn't that there's a conspiracy, it's that no one story about this Apple event got all the facts right and presented what's really happening. So I'm doing and injecting a bit of commentary. (Some people call that a "blog post.")

May 6, 2008 7:09 AM
 

tristanh said:

@Lindy

Agreed on all points... however I think that you are missing something.

I think that part of what Paul is trying to say is that these digital downloads are too EXPENSIVE.  The fact is that because there is no physical media to create and because there are no bonus features the price should be cheaper (regardless of if the bonus features are actually watched or not).

Fourteen dollars or whatever it is seems to be high to me when I can buy it for just a dollar more and get all the extras, and if I really want a digital copy, rip it to my computer myself.

However, if they were say nine or ten dollars for the download then that would be worth it to me and I wouldn't mind giving up the extras or having a hard copy of the movie.

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May 7, 2008 6:20 AM
 

subzerohitman721 said:

Paul,

I completely agree. The price point is way too high for digitally delivered content. Thats why I restrict my iTunes purchases to the 1.99 television episodes. The idea that at 14.99 you don't even get exact DVD quality from iTunes or subtitles is a dealbreaker.

I disagree with the notion that people don't watch DVD extras. Just look at the sales of special editions of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and other major blockbusters and you'll see that the world snapped up those editons in spades. Many movie junkies will actually wait for special editon launches.

Maybe it is a one time view and done, but it comes down to a fans sense of ownership. Thats why I own a few limited edition versions of memorabilia from both Star Trek, Star Wars, and other franchises. Thats why I bought collectors and special editions of Halo 2 and 3. In the way Mac fans have that sense of ownership to the Apple brand, many people do about movies, movie franchises, and other collections. I may not "get it" like Mac fans do, but I do understand it and respect it to a point.

May 7, 2008 1:49 PM

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