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Bob Cringely is off his gourd

The Robert X. Cringely stuff was cute once, but it's hit "Fake Steve Jobs" territory now: We know who you are, and it's just not fun or funny anymore. More to the point, The X-Man's latest is just plain crazy talk:

MeMobile, You Kaput: Apple's plan to take over the world

It's worth noting, incidentally, that even the title of this post is horrible. I thought this was going to be a criticism of MobileMe, which would certainly be warranted, if Bob had ever actually used .Mac. Nope, he really thinks this is the Big Time.

Watch the recorded video of the speech ... Phil Schiller doesn't show a word processor, doesn't show a database or a spreadsheet, and doesn't show a presentation program. In short, he doesn't show the guts of any networked office-type application. He shows applications that are actually far more sophisticated than any of those.

Again, use .Mac. The stuff Schiller showed off isn't sophisticated or even particularly interesting, beyond "push email, contacts, and calendar," which gets a lot more interesting when it's Gmail/Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft. Just a thought, since those will happen. Then MobileMe loses it's appeal. Unless you're an Apple fanatic who can't stand the loss of his precious mac.com email address. Trust me, they're out there.

Given the code Apple already has for its iWork applications, how much more effort would it take to webify those apps, too? Not much, I'd say. A year from now I guarantee you that MobileMe will offer a complete suite of web-based Office applications.

This can go one of two ways, and either way, no one will ever care less:

1. Apple does what Cringely predicts and brings its mostly lame iWork applications (OK, Keynote is admittedly cool) to the Web, so anyone can use them. And... what? We need another Google Docs alternative, really? Do people really look to Apple for productivity applications? Seems like a stretch.

2. Apple doesn't do what Cringely predicts for a very good reason: iWork, ostensibly, is one of those Mac-only software solutions that, like iLife, Aperture, and a handful more, is supposed to get people to want to own a Mac. To be fair, Apple did shed its protectionist nature for MobileMe (as .Mac was obviously Mac-only), but the functionality there is so basic on the Web/Windows side that it's just not that compelling anyway.

Microsoft's success is based on two products and only two products -- Windows and Office. Microsoft is obsessed with the idea that Google will undermine one or both of those monopolies through Google Apps. This is all Steve Ballmer thinks about and is what made him so eager to spend $40+ billion for Yahoo.

Actually, no it is not. And I can prove it.

When Microsoft made its second purchase bid for Yahoo this past week, it tried to buy Yahoo's search business only. That is what Microsoft wanted, not some sort of Google Apps-type technology/solution. So this assertion is demonstrably false.

But what if the real threat isn't Google at all, but Apple?

Sure. What if UFOs are real? I mean ... what if??

[Some 80/20 rule baloney ensues along with a hopefully rhetorical question about what sort of word processor Porsche would create. Dear God, Bob. Apple made Pages for crying out loud. Spare us.]

Nearly everyone who tries it is going to LOVE MobileMe, which Apple -- calling it "Microsoft Exchange for the rest of us" -- will madly market to small and medium-sized businesses, of which there are six million in the U.S. alone.

Again, I have to fall back on something that Cringely clearly doesn't have: Experience. MobileMe is based on .Mac. There isn't a single feature that Schiller demoed in the keynote, for example, that doesn't already work now in .Mac. This stuff isn't new, and it isn't particularly compelling. The only part of MobileMe worth discussing at all is the push stuff. That's it, and it's something other companies will be able to do too.

IPhone enterprise customers will do the same [buy iPhones, MobileMe accounts, and eventually Macs and MacBooks for their workers].

Excuse me while I clean the coffee off my monitor. I ... uh... Geeze, Bob, that's quite an iCabal wet dream you've created there. I agree that a certain percentage of enterprises will buy iPhones. But MobileMe accounts? LOL. Good Lord, dude. Come on.

And that's just in the U.S. What about those other 69 countries that will have iPhone service by the end of the year and the 62 that will allow Apple's App Store?

I expect HUGE things from iPhone-toting enterprises in Ecuador, Bob. I really do. They get it.

The smartest thing Apple could do with its cash hoard right now would probably be to buy SalesForce.com and fold that into MobileMe, instantly taking the high ground among the road warrior set.

And the smartest thing you could do, Bob, is to ... You know what, never mind. This is insane.

I assume you wrote this article with Apple Pages? And are a .Mac subscriber?

Ah. I thought as much.

 

Thanks Rick, for pointing out this craziness to me. I think. :)

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June 13, 2008 6:45 PM
 

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June 13, 2008 7:31 PM
 

weedmonk said:

They've been dreaming of dominance since 1983....let 'em dream on.

June 13, 2008 7:44 PM
 

cesjr said:

"There isn't a single feature that Schiller demoed in the keynote, for example, that doesn't already work now in .Mac. "

actually the web-based interfaces for iCal and Address book are completely new.  Sure google has similar, free stuff, but it's less slick looking.  We'll have to see how it works - but it looks a lot nicer than Google's stuff (not actually very good UI)

June 13, 2008 10:26 PM
 

Ocean said:

Cringely has always been completely over the top.

June 13, 2008 11:01 PM
 

johnpapola said:

Agreed that this article is ridiculous.  But I take offense at this:

"Unless you're an Apple fanatic who can't stand the loss of his precious mac.com email address. Trust me, they're out there."

That if effing ridiculous, Paul.  Using .mac doesn't mean you're a crazy person and I don't understand why you continue to push this insulting and ridiculous idea.  It undermines your credibility and my usually fair opinion of you.

June 13, 2008 11:02 PM
 

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June 14, 2008 2:33 AM
 

Avro said:

Apple come back from the brink?  MS 'They will never do it.' (Windows ME, Vista)

Apple dominate the MP3 market with the iPod? MS 'They will never do it' (Zune)

Apple dominate Downloads with iTunes? MS 'They will never do it'  (Zune.net)

Apple dominate the Smartphone market with iPhone? MS  'They will never do it' (Windows Mobile)

Apple dominate the cloud? MS 'They will never do it'

Computing 101 "Never say Never"

June 14, 2008 6:20 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

The Good:

Paul: "Apple’s MobileMe isn’t just a warmed over PC- and iPhone-compatible version of .Mac. Apple’s MobileMe isn’t just a warmed over PC- and iPhone-compatible version of .Mac. It’s important for two reasons..."

Paul: "MobileMe is really an evolution of the .Mac service... I think Apple will see some big success with this."

The Bad:

Paul: "The stuff Schiller showed off isn't sophisticated or even particularly interesting"

The Redundant:

Paul: "This stuff isn't new, and it isn't particularly compelling."

Wow. More flip-flops than a dying fish. Which is about all this WinJihadist "analysis" is good for--wrapping a dead fish.

June 14, 2008 8:36 AM
 

DRWAM said:

John, Paul does have a true point about the account names. I can't bear to change /lose my Comcast email as I dread notifying all the services I use. It would save me between $60 and $70 each month if I dumped Comcast [TV and internest] and got Verizon Triple Play which has faster UL and DL speeds. I would save 10 or 20 bucks just dumping the Comcast TV and switching to Triple Play, and have both FiOS and Cable internet at my home, but I am a little timid. Some friends have switched without problems, but I am hesitating. I know I should do it, but I just can't give up my Comcast email addresses.  I can understand why some would not want to give up their .mac address. What hurts is that my business email address would not change, and it's the more important. Therapy please?

June 14, 2008 9:13 AM
 

Waethorn said:

"IPhone enterprise customers will do the same [buy....MobileMe accounts]"

riiiiiiight.  they'll buy a MobileMe account instead of creating Windows Live ID's for free....

sure thing there pal....  ;)

June 14, 2008 10:07 AM
 

pthurrott said:

.Mac isn't worth the $100 that Apple charges. Anyone can see that if they're thinking objectively. So why would anyone pay that much money for a service that does so little compared to what else is out there? For the email address, of course. Stating the obvious doesn't "undermine my credibility," but yeah it does show some bias on my part: Bias against people who pay too much for nothing in order to have an Apple-oriented email address. So there it is. I'm anti-idiocy.

And if you want to add to the flip-flopping nature of this conversation, chew on this one: I've had a .Mac account since the very first day it was offered, and I've renewed it each year since. Now why would I do such a thing? Am I demented? Perhaps, but with regards to .Mac I do it because I need to test what Apple's doing, and a few OS X features don't get turned on unless you have .Mac. So it's a lock-in type thing, typical for Apple, but necessary for a reviewer. I don't recommend .Mac to anyone because it's almost completely useless in my opinion*. You know, unless that email address is really, really important to you. Which, as noted, it is for some people. You know who you are.

To further beat this topic to death, I'd also note that 9 out of every 10 crazy Apple supporter email I get comes from a mac.com email address. This says a lot about these people. But let's not take a gross generalization, which is used to make a point, and turn it into a rule: Obviously, there are .Mac users out there who aren't jerks, just as there are New York Yankees fans who aren't ... well, OK bad example. :)

* Inevitably, I will get an email or comment here that says something like, but Paul, with .Mac I can use nipperific features like Backup and Mac-to-Mac syncing. ZZzzzrrtt----snork!---sorry, I nodded off there. Please, just spare me. That stuff is a justification, not a reason to get .Mac.

June 14, 2008 10:38 AM
 

pthurrott said:

DRWAM: I hate to say it like this, but if fear of losing an email address is a concern, one might have been more careful about attaching themselves to an account that costs $100 a year when a huge selection of free and vastly superior email services are out there for the taking.

June 14, 2008 10:40 AM
 

DRWAM said:

Yep, I agree. It's the shock of losing my email identity that chains me to Comcast. Our Comcast accounts are paid by my group [which ultimately is out of my own pocket as we partners own the group, but at least it's pre-tax dollars], and if I go with Verizon, my group will reimburse me the $40/month. We have a corporate server with exchange which is simply the best, IMO, but I do not want it cluttered with personal and junk email. So, which free one would you recommend for my personal stuff? I would not want to chain myself to Verizon like I am with Comcast. This fear or  impulsiveness seems quite neurotic [of me in my own medical opinion], but that's must be why I can't shake it off.

June 14, 2008 12:03 PM
 

cesjr said:

"To further beat this topic to death, I'd also note that 9 out of every 10 crazy Apple supporter email I get comes from a mac.com email address. "

of course for Paul "crazy Apple supporter " means anyone that disagrees with him

June 14, 2008 4:03 PM
 

cesjr said:

" features like Backup and Mac-to-Mac syncing. . . . That stuff is a justification, not a reason to get .Mac."

Actually not - you can get email anywhere but the mac to mac syncing hasn't been available from anyone but apple as far as I know

June 14, 2008 4:05 PM
 

Mum said:

Paul,

You've just been raving about being able to save a document on your home laptop, then open the same document at the office desktop. This is something .Mac enables me to do. So, what are the options if, besides my documents, I want to sync my web & ftp bookmarks, calendars, addresses, keychains, mailboxes, to dos, notes and settings between all my computers and (where applicable) my mobile phone, either in Mac or Windows? This would preferably happen automatically and not using ten different services.

I'm asking because I don't know, I'm not trying to justify anything. This functionality earns itself back tenfold in saved time each year, but I'm certainly interested if there is a cheaper or a free alternative.

The .mac mail address I only use for registering to possibly spamming services. If one address gets too dirty I get another alias and start off a clean table. I do use iWeb for creating galleries etc. but none of these other features matter so much.

June 15, 2008 7:41 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

Sorry, Paul, but iSync is worth the less-than-ten-bucks-a-month I pay for it. dot-Mac may be "overpriced" in your book, but I can do with a couple less overpriced coffee products from Starbucks because, as "mum" points out, this functionality is something I don't want to live without.

June 15, 2008 12:14 PM
 

Mum said:

Since there were no replies I went ahead and did five minutes of research. I guess I'll have to conclude that this kind "sync everything" feature is indeed not only Mac-only but .Mac-only. I mean... Is this 2008 or not?

June 16, 2008 12:10 PM
 

johnpapola said:

"So why would anyone pay that much money for a service that does so little compared to what else is out there? For the email address, of course."

Of course?  Hmm... Gee.  I continue to pay for .mac first and foremost for the broad sync features it enables between my home tower and work laptop.  you know, the kinds of features you're saying you "LOVE LIVE MESH" for?  Features that .mac has had for years.  I could care less that the email has "mac" in it.

The iDisk is super easy online storage.  The iLife integration features are really nice.  The backup application that comes with it is solid.  Having the application preferences sync between the two machines is worth the money alone in productivity.  

"To further beat this topic to death, I'd also note that 9 out of every 10 crazy Apple supporter email I get comes from a mac.com email address.  This says a lot about these people."

Ah yes, because personal anecdote is the best way to prove your universal generalization.  This is pretty shoddy discussion, paul, even if you try to shrug off the remarks by calling out the lunacy of the generalization after you've made it.

"* Inevitably, I will get an email or comment here that says something like, but Paul, with .Mac I can use nipperific features like Backup and Mac-to-Mac syncing. ZZzzzrrtt----snork!---sorry, I nodded off there. Please, just spare me. That stuff is a justification, not a reason to get .Mac."

Ah, you dozed off... but you are SUPER DUPER CRAZY EXCITED for online storage syncing from live mesh?  SAME FEATURE... but from Microsoft in a BETA it's worth "LOVING".  This is pretty stupid and blatantly hypocritical.  I'll grant you that it's overpriced for geeks willing to hobble together a collection of free ad-laden alternatives.

But the double speak here is just so bald-faced and absurd, it's hard to stomach.  Again as a reader that generally respects you, this discussion a mess.  A condescending, arrogant, hypocritical farce.  Obviously.

June 16, 2008 10:41 PM
 

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