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They really need to roll this into Mesh, creating a one stop shop for syncing your data to the cloud.

--tayme

.........except for the issue of calendar syncing that many are complaining about on the forums and newsgroups.  Apparently, some peoples' "additional" calendars (not their first one, but any secondary calendars they create) are having issues syncing to outlook.  But hey, it's beta code, right?  I wonder how long MS will keep the now multiple years old connector in beta.......hmmm.

@dougxd - "I wonder how long MS will keep the now multiple years old connector in beta"

Probably about as long as Apple continues to charge people $100/year to beta test mobileme. :-)

--tayme

I'm so confused with all of the Live monikers. What is Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Live mail? It gives me a headache.

MobileME is garbage.

The "LIVE" or "Live" stuff is confusing as hell.

Quote: "Probably about as long as Apple continues to charge people $100/year to beta test mobileme. :-)"

Couldn't have said it better myself :)

... Or probably as long as Google hides behind all of their "Betas" as well.  I think Gmail has been in beta since Reagan was in office...

Hey, its about time Microsoft got this done. Should have been done several Windows versions ago. (Like Windows 98.)

Good first step.  Now they need to get wireless sync to mobile devices working as well (or is it already there?)

@tayme -- I agree.  Google pulled the same schtick with gmail.  This.......must........end!

:-)

I just wished it worked with Windows Live Mail Desktop.  Since they moved Outlook back to using the old HTML engine, it's a pain in the butt to manage a good portion of my e-mail.

That's the place where Microsoft still gets it wrong I think.  They need a consumer space model and a business space model.

But what about join.msn.com/.../features ???????????

MASS CONFUSION!!!!!

Kill all of the Hotmail, Hotmail Plus, MSN, MSN Premium, WebTV, Passport stuff off and offer just one LIVE/Live service....like Google and Apple.  On top of that make it work with Windows Mobile if it does not already.

Of course that would eat into hosted Exchange.

Oh and have one version of Windows 7, at one price for consumers.

"I just wished it worked with Windows Live Mail Desktop"  

Oh yeah forgot about the many versions of mail clients, Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Live Mail Desktop, Windows Calendar.

MASS CONFUSION!!!

"Oh yeah forgot about the many versions of mail clients, Outlook Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Live Mail Desktop, Windows Calendar."

So you listed 5 "mail clients" - one of which is a calendar app, not a mail client, and two are the same thing (just a new name on a new operating system. So really its just

* Outlook - high end offering

* Outlook Express (if on XP)/Windows Mail (if on Vista)  - included with OS

* Live Mail Desktop

That's really not all that terribly confusing. Good try with the FUD though.

I will admit that Live Mail Desktop is a confusing offering relative to Windows Mail... But frankly I don't know many people that even know it exists so its kind of hard for them to be confused. People just know about the high end, expensive option and the low end, free option. Pretty simple.

If Live Hotmail only had IMAP support for the iPhone I would be in heaven!!!

@tlmii you know its three versions and so do I.  Does joe consumer.....nope.  They see confusion, and that is my point you know "MASS CONFUSION" was the key there.

I mention the calendar for a few reasons.

1.  The blog post mentions calendar sync as a feature for this new connector....does it not?  Outlook (full client) and Windows Calendar are the only two MS calendars I know of.

2.  Paul threw a hissy fit over the fact that MobileMe only supported the Outlook client and not the Vista calendar.  If this does not and all of its from MS......Where is the OUTRAGE!!!!:)  Oh the sweet irony.

3. Just the other day posted a blog post about Gmail and how webmail is the new way things are done and the fat client is the "traditional way" and how and many others had moved away from Outlook.  If so then who cares about a fat client sync.

Just goes to show he is all over the place.....just like MS offerings.  

Consumer 101 make it easy for the user to understand the product.  You know like 5 versions of Vista:):)

We've been wall-to-wall Microsoft services lately and for good reason -- Microsoft's Live offerings are really maturing lately. One...

"I will admit that Live Mail Desktop is a confusing offering relative to Windows Mail... But frankly I don't know many people that even know it exists so its kind of hard for them to be confused."

It's actually just called "Windows Live Mail".

It's even more confusing when you see Windows Mail in your Start Menu, and Windows Live Mail only a couple entries down.

I install the Windows Live Suite on consumer systems, and the thing I hate about it all is that you can't remove or disable Windows Mail or Windows Photo Gallery in favour of the Live versions.  Windows Mail is supposedly used for some part of the scanning or imaging components in Windows Vista.  What's worse is that you can't set the default mail client to Windows Live Mail, or the default photo editing app to Windows Live Photo Gallery without extra registry editing, making OEM preinstallations overly complicated.  Vista is MUCH easier to deploy than XP, but changing those specific options add the requisite complications to the procedure.

The one thing Microsoft should do is completely do away with the "Vista versions" when the Live versions are installed.  If there's some kind of shared API in the Vista version, as there is in Windows Mail, implement it in the Live version so you don't need the Vista versions of those programs anymore.  Anybody with the Live versions absolutely doesn't need the originals, so why they keep them is still a mystery.

How about a connector for Entourage? Are the Mac users of Entourage left out in the cold? Anyone have a reference to solving sync problems on the Mac?

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