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Zimbra Desktop: Web Mail running as a local application

Now this is interesting, even if you're not a Yahoo! Mail user. Yahoo! has released the Beta 3 version of its Zimbra Desktop, which is essentially Yahoo! Mail (or, amazingly, Gmail or AOL, or any other IMAP/POP mail) running as a local application (with Windows, Mac, and Linux versions), using Mozilla Prism technology. (You can use Prism to make standalone versions of Google Calendar and Gmail, though they're still online-only Web apps at this time.) The Zimbra blog has some details:

We’ve aimed to blur the line between a Ajax web-client and a conventional desktop application, and this release is a leap towards reaching that goal. If you’re just joining us here’s the best part: It’s an offline capable client so you can take your data with you whenever you don’t have internet access - then sync any type of interaction that you can do in normal webmail access when you get connected again. So many cool new things I don’t know where to begin - the Zimbra Desktop team has been very busy since Beta 2.

Your tasks, documents, & briefcase items can now follow you wherever you may roam. If you’re already using Zimbra Desktop against a Zimbra Collaboration Suite server these will show up on next edit or item move via delta sync - while a full account sync or reset will pull in prior items. Personally, having briefcase items available offline is a major plus - as offline calendaring using the same AJAX web-client interface has already long since won me over.

Yahoo! Mail users rejoice - There’s now IMAP access through Zimbra Desktop to all free, plus, and business accounts. You didn’t read that wrong. Normally only Plus accounts have POP access, but as a perk when using Zimbra Desktop the mail is synced via IMAP; which is a much better protocol for keeping your mail organized - and yes it’s available to free accounts as well. Hook-up your @yahoo.com account or go grab one of the new @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com addresses. (Note that some apps don’t sync to Yahoo! servers yet so the data is local.)

Mailto: link handler - For Mac and Windows protocol handlers allow you to click on a mailto: link in any browser, and it will bring-up Zimbra Desktop’s composer with a javascript call. If Prism is not already running, it will start the web-app as well with a url call, then pop up compose. We don’t want to be accidentally invasive, so to turn this feature on you’ll have to check the box in global preferences to make it the default mail client on your computer.

There’s also easy setup menus for setting up Zimbra Server, Yahoo! Mail, GMail, AOL, or any other IMAP/POP accounts you want to use. For Beta 3 we’ve thrown out JavaMail and wrote a brand-new robust IMAP/POP client-engine from scratch.

There's a lot more but this looks really sweet. Google and Microsoft (and Apple, I guess) need to get their act together: This looks like the new standard for cloud computing email solutions.

And for the record, how weird is it to access Gmail over IMAP via the new Yahoo! Mail interface? Very weird. But very cool.

Related: Yahoo! Zimbra Desktop

Comments

 

Snakedoctor1 said:

Zimbra is the only real competitor to Exchange.  It was bought by Yahoo about a year ago.  Its great product on the Enterprise side with even outlook connectivity.  

It way cheaper than Exchange and supports alot more OS'es, (Unix, Linux, OSX).  I worked for an ISP that purchased it for their broadband customers and it was very popular.  At one time I had read that Comcast was going to do the same, which would seriously push this product into the lime light.

I was glad that MS was not getting Yahoo, as they would have surely killed this off.

July 27, 2008 6:09 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

Yes yes yes yes!

Like snakedoctor said, one more reason to be glad MS didn't buy this company.

July 27, 2008 6:16 AM
 

sharp65 said:

Zimbra is a great product, our school recently just switched from an old webmail portal to the latest version of the zimbra system. The web based ajax system is great and best of all it supports push with the iphone/ipod. I'll have to give this a try.

July 27, 2008 8:07 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

@Snakedoctor1

"It ... supports alot more OS'es, (Unix, Linux, OSX)."

So, essentially, you're saying, "It supports Unix"

July 27, 2008 10:30 AM
 

subzerohitman721 said:

This was long, long, long, overdue. I was thinking what the hell when they killed off pop access through clients. Good to see them giving users at least one good option.

July 27, 2008 12:23 PM
 

rseiler said:

I'm unclear on why this app is any more "cloudy" than using Outlook against IMAP/POP. OK, it's nice that Yahoo gives free users IMAP access with this, but beyond that, if you already have Outlook/Windows Live Mail, which most do, particularly if you have a paid Yahoo Mail account or don't use Yahoo Mail, what's the point of installing yet another mail app?

July 27, 2008 3:16 PM
 

Snakedoctor1 said:

Ahhhhh mikegalos, always the MS J@ck@$$ in the crowd here, I think you and Weelittlehorn are really the same guy/gal.

Maybe I should have said it supports a real OS....UNIX.

Zimbra is cheaper than Exchange, uses standard protocols, has the same client on Windows/OSX/Unix/Linux supporting the GUI standards of each and works the same way on all browsers.  Exchange cant do any of that, because its proprietary and MS wont do any of it so they keep people locked in.

Exchange is a great, closed product, has been the leader in Email for many years but it cost way to much and in MS fashion shoves their way of doing things (full OWA only with IE) down your throat.

I would love to see this product seriously challenge Exchange, to the point that MS has to pull an IE8/Open doc and cave into the logic of standards.

July 27, 2008 5:34 PM
 

Snakedoctor1 said:

@resiler this app totally a Java/Ajax app, like a web page on your PC kind of.  It keeps a copy locally but when its connected its like running the webmail on your PC/Mac.  Totally free.  Its not like a traditional fat client.

So its free and if you move between say Windows/OSX/Ubuntu its the exact same app on all machines, you data is in the cloud and this local webpage/app connects to it.

Live Mail is doing the same thing but only for Windows.

July 27, 2008 5:39 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

@Snakedoctor

Your post of "more operating systems" really was deceptive since it only was referrig to various implementations of Unix.

That Zimbra works on several Unix implementations despite all the OS forking is, perhaps, an achievement but a bit of a sad reflection of the state of alternative operating systems.

That the only real competition for Windows is dozens of semi-compatible Unix-clone systems is something we should all be complaining about and not cheering. The lack of innovation is staggering.

July 27, 2008 8:58 PM
 

Snakedoctor1 said:

Yes the lack of innovation on both sides is staggering.  

Exchange should have been on SQL two versions ago, instead of using the Jet database it uses now.

Open source alternatives should have moved passed the utopia of "Open" and put together the pieces like Zimbra has, sold a product and supported it.

Here is hoping that MS never gets Yahoo and kills of Zimbra.

July 28, 2008 6:55 AM

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