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Sites seeking to find solutions to common Vista and Mac problems

This is timely. Thanks for Stephan for the links:

Find, publish and rate user experience quirks in Windows Vista

http://www.aerotaskforce.com/

Find, publish and rate user experience quirks in Mac OS X

http://www.aquataskforce.com/

Published Sep 01 2008, 11:02 AM by pthurrott
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yert said:

Do you not have Long Zheng's blog in your reading list?

You should subscribe to it if you haven't already. He made the Aero/Aquataskforces; http://istartedsomething.com

September 1, 2008 1:46 PM
 

subzerohitman721 said:

Well I think this is great. It proves that both OSes are equally prone to technical issues. No OS gets the God-like perfect status. It just works? F.U.D. Wow factor. Not exactly.

September 1, 2008 2:11 PM
 

RaaJ said:

You should really read through the comments on the aquataskforce.com site. People really do believe that OS-X is perfect as is, and could really do no wrong. Some commenters even shout down at people for asking for more customization options like in the *gasp* "Windows world". Amazing ! I don't think I've ever seen this kind of behavior on the Windows (Aerotaskforce.com) side.

September 1, 2008 4:12 PM
 

DRWAM said:

Actually I don't find their behavior much different from guys at this site that cheer and gloat when they read about Leopard problems, as well as all sides that post ridiculous "my OS is better than your's" and here's video, podcast or articles to prove it. It's all immature. OK, but probably a lot of fun for them. I just wanted to bust your nuts, because that what I have fun doing:) Yep it's kinda silly of them , but heck, at least their not out there killing and maiming. AS they say in Rome, 'Let the games begin'.

Peace bro's,

Doc

September 1, 2008 6:15 PM
 

Waethorn said:

"I just wanted to bust your nuts, because that what I have fun doing"

The nut-busting?  Or the medical bills and fertility clinic visitors that come later?

September 1, 2008 6:21 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

DRWAM

While I'd agree that most of them are just the usual "My OS is better than your OS", there are some that are seriously amusing.

My favorite so far was the response to OS X not having a native ZIP file utility. The basic response tone was, "Nobody needs to use archive files and if other people send them to you then you should let them know they're wrong..."

September 1, 2008 6:41 PM
 

DRWAM said:

Yep Mike, some strange stupid stuff gets suggested and said, even by Mr. Jobs himself. People say that you can't argue with success, but that's just not true. I could list examples, but people would argue, you know like how not having a replaceable battery is better. That's a correct statement if you end with better for the company that sells it. It's true that I've never needed a spare battery, but many do. Also, my Palm T3 did not have a replaceable battery, but the battery died and I found instructions and was able to do it. It would have been much easier if it were built for user replacement, but maybe Palm, like Apple found another way to get my money. I will email you a funny story later.

September 1, 2008 6:52 PM
 

Dipsh t Admin said:

This is pretty much old news.  The site has been around since the beginning of June.at least (different name then).

September 1, 2008 7:18 PM
 

DRWAM said:

Woops, forgot to acknowledge Wae. Touché dude! Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore ya.

Doc

September 1, 2008 7:24 PM
 

subzerohitman721 said:

@RaaJ

Exactly! A reality check is definitely need for some of their users. Many Windows users openly acknowledge both the advantages and the pitfalls of the operating system. Yet some of the Mac folks think its perfect.

Reality check. According to the NVD (National Vulnerability Database) both 10.4 and 10.5 were the top most vulnerable operating systems in 1st quarter 2008. We know about Vista's problems. Its been overplayed like Leona Lewis "Bleeding Love." But how about OS-X problems? Be freaking fair, Apple has its troubles too.

Instead of complaining about Vista, how bout getting their platform in order? Hopefully the Psystar lawsuit will gain legal traction and bring some of these problems to light.

September 1, 2008 9:25 PM
 

whiplash55 said:

OSX has problems, I wasn't aware of any. What excuse do they have, they only have to develop it for a tiny set of possible hardware configurations.

Of course they don't want to just sell the operating system. Then they'd have to support it for thousands of different systems, then you would see some problems.

September 1, 2008 11:21 PM
 

re: Sites seeking to find solutions to common Vista and Mac problems | autocarsinsurance said:

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September 1, 2008 11:38 PM
 

DRWAM said:

Only the zealots would think that their OS is perfect and that's far from the majority of any platform. Unfortunately, they seem to be the most vocal, and may post or write stuff that I would call 'inaccurate' to glorify their choice to the public forum, even when they know that they aren't telling the truth [maybe just to piss you off].

Whip has  great point about the more limited hardware, such as vid cards, for the Mac. Also, there is considerably more WIndows software, so just by major volume differences, you should see more incompatibilities. Any one that knows a tiny bit of statistics would agree.

The lists from the links seem kinda whiney to me. The first one that I checked for the Mac did not exist, [a copy pop-up window when moving files, not copying] when I tried lsmall and large up to 7.5 GB files. I supppose that it was moved so fast that my eye did not catch the millisecond it takes to move the 7.5 GB file, but I did not even blink. Still, don't you all think that this complaint or glitch is lame even if it did? I would bet that there are similar wierd complaints at both links.

PS Live Mesh at work is great. Hey gang, I'm I officially a geek now or still a jock?

September 2, 2008 7:35 AM
 

WebGuy3000 said:

"My favorite so far was the response to OS X not having a native ZIP file utility."

I must be missing something.  I zip and unzip files on the mac all the time.  It's built into the OS.

September 2, 2008 7:47 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

"My favorite so far was the response to OS X not having a native ZIP file utility."

Ah, but it does, "mikegalos". As WebGuy3000 points out: "I must be missing something.  I zip and unzip files on the mac all the time.  It's built into the OS."

Of course it is. You simply right-click on a file and select "create archive". It uses ZIP compression.

(Waiting for the WinJihadists to point out that that's "too technical" or "non-discoverable" in 3...2...1...)

September 2, 2008 8:04 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

Actually, by utility I meant specifically a viewer utility.

The point wasn't whether it had it or not and so I didn't go into detail since it would be a distration from the actual point.

The actual point was the tone of "if it isn't in there, you shouldn't want it and neither should anyone else" -  the mind boggling religious fanaticism that no matter how silly or trivial, every decision from Cupertino was right for all people and must be enforced with condemnation of anyone whose needs or interests are different.

September 2, 2008 8:24 AM
 

Avro said:

I made some comments about the difficulty in Windows Home networking on a forum (3 steps to set one up in Leopard, 15 in XP and so many moaned 'Who needs a Home Network?'  Well, quite a few of us do.

September 2, 2008 8:49 AM
 

DRWAM said:

LIKE THE BATTERY, A COPY AND PASTE ON THE IPHONE AS WELL AS REAL TIME VOICE NAVIGATION, ETC...sorry for caps. my bad

Also, some complaints can be just wrong. An example is when I blamed Apple for a USB drive no longer recognized/mounted after the 10.4.11 update, when the drive actually died. I didn't think to check it on another computer since it worked with 10.4.9 the month before. My bad again. Like I always say, I'm not perfect, I just look it.

September 2, 2008 8:50 AM
 

Mum said:

The actual point was the tone of "if it isn't in there, you shouldn't want it and neither should anyone else" -  the mind boggling religious fanaticism that no matter how silly or trivial, every decision from Cupertino was right for all people and must be enforced with condemnation of anyone whose needs or interests are different."

However I read, I don't really find that tone in those comments. There were people questioning whether a feature like that is really necessary and offering alternatives. I'm also very much against bloating the OS with stuff that only very few need when the features are readily and freely available for anyone advanced enough to require such features - especially in this case, when fulfilling the requested feature might require completely changing the extremely transparent functionality of the feature. (There's many other more pressing problems with it anyway, such as its incompatibility with many other Zip apps and the bad compression rate.)

September 2, 2008 2:43 PM

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