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Zune Takes Music Discovery to the Next Level With New Ways to Find and Access Digital Music

Software update will enable Zune users to tag songs and buy music directly from FM radio and download and stream music on the go beginning Sept. 16.

REDMOND, Wash. — Sept. 8, 2008 Zune, Microsoft Corp.’s end-to-end music and entertainment service, again revolutionizes how customers discover and connect to the music they love, where and how they want it. Starting next week, every Zune portable media player will let consumers wirelessly download or stream millions of songs on the go from thousands of wireless hot spots around the country. Free, powerful software and firmware updates will give Zune owners the ability to discover, tag and purchase songs directly from the built-in FM radio, wirelessly access the Zune Marketplace store on the go, and tap into interactive, personalized music recommendations that add even more value to the Zune Pass subscription. Zune is also expanding its device lineup with new 16GB and 120GB capacities as well as shiny new blue-on-silver and sleek all-black color schemes. The new features will begin rolling out on Sept. 16, 2008.

“Digital music services really come alive when they help people find not only the music they know they like, but the music they didn’t know they would love,” said Chris Stephenson, general manager of Global Marketing for Zune at Microsoft. “With the combination of subscription, wireless access to millions of tracks, and powerful discovery features like personal recommendations and the ability to buy music from FM radio, Zune is taking the digital music experience to the next level.”

Wireless Connections

More than 61 percent of people say they discover new music by listening to the radio.1 With that in mind, Zune is taking advantage of the wireless connection and the built-in FM tuner to deliver a new feature called Buy from FM, which lets customers tag and purchase songs they hear on FM radio stations2 directly from the Zune device. When the customer is in a Wi-Fi hot spot, the song can be immediately downloaded to the Zune device. If Wi-Fi is not available, the device will have a queue of songs ready to download when connected to a home computer or in a hot spot. Buy from FM uses Radio Data System and RT+ data feeds within the FM broadcast frequencies that identify song and artist data and enable the Zune service to identify and deliver the track to the customer.

“Microsoft’s decision to integrate an FM tuner into the Zune was revolutionary and they continue their extraordinary leadership with Buy From FM,” said John Hogan, president and CEO of Clear Channel Radio. “We’ve always known that radio is the primary source for discovering new music, and Microsoft’s decision to marry music discovery and delivery does two things: enables consumers to instantly satisfy their passion and enables FM song tagging to be enjoyed by all radio listeners, everywhere.”

In addition, users can now access the Zune Marketplace music store directly from their device when they are in a recognized Wi-Fi hot spot, or through a home wireless network. To make it easy to discover music on the go, customers can browse lists of featured new releases and top songs and albums sorted by genre, or use the on-screen keypad to type in the song of their choice. Once they have picked a track or album, they can either download it or stream it directly to the Zune device.

Zune customers have a choice in how they acquire music: They can pay per track or choose a Zune Pass subscription. Zune Pass subscribers can download or stream music to the device or their computer interchangeably, all for a flat rate of $14.99 per month. So whether a device has 4 GB or 120 GB of storage, Zune Pass customers can access and stream millions of songs directly to their Zune.

More Ways to Discover Music: Channels and Picks

The new Zune software update taps expert sources, recommendations from the Zune service and online music community, and the user’s own play data to create a dynamic, digital music experience where discovering music is easy and seamless.

· Channels. Channels are an exciting new tool for music discovery. Customers can explore channels programmed by experts from the music industry such as the Billboard Top 100, The FADER magazine and KEXP radio, in addition to workout-themed channels tailored for high, medium and low impact, and top chart channels from all genres and subgenres. The powerful Zune software will even create custom channels for each user, based on favorite artists and genres. Channels are included with a monthly Zune Pass subscription and can be synced to the device for playback on the go. For non-Zune Pass subscribers, the Channels are available for a la carte purchase.

· Personal Picks. Now the Zune software learns what kind of music users like and makes personal recommendations. When users log onto Zune Marketplace, they’ll find a new area called Picks where the Zune recommendation algorithm will suggest artists, albums and tracks based on the music they have been listening to, as well as channels they might like and listeners like them in the Zune Social.

· The Zune Social online music community. Customers can connect with millions of like-minded fans and share music via the Zune Card, a real-time playlist of each user’s favorite and recently played tracks that can be accessed on the Web or within the Zune software, or synced to the Zune device. Zune Pass subscribers can play full tracks from Zune Cards synced to their device while on the go, and now the playlists will even automatically update with the most recently played tracks when Zune connects to a wireless hot spot. It’s like subscribing to a free feed of music from the sources people trust most — their friends.

Powerful Software

The Zune PC software is a free download at http://www.zune.net that provides rich discovery and media management capabilities to help consumers make the most of their existing music collections, in addition to providing access to the Zune Social and Zune Marketplace so they can add to it.

· Mixview. Customers can select an artist, album or Zune Card to activate a dynamic, visual mosaic of related music and listeners. With each click users can take the view in a new direction, creating a fun, graphical way to discover new music. Mixview works with users’ current collection of music, in addition to tracks and albums from across the Zune Marketplace.

· Now Playing. The improved Now Playing view is more interactive and cinematic. Users can sit back and enjoy the combination of great artist imagery, colorful effects, bio information and data from the Zune online music community, all combined in a full-screen view. They can also click to dive deeper into the music behind the picture, providing another great way to interact with their collection.

A new firmware update will also improve the experience on the Zune device. In addition to the new wireless functionality, Zune will bring new features customers have been asking for:

· Games on the go. Two free games, “Hexic” and “Texas Hold ’Em,” will keep users entertained on the go.

· Audiobooks. All Zune devices will feature support for audiobooks this fall from industry leaders in the digital distribution of audiobook content.

Audible. Customers can visit audible.com to download and sync favorite books from the 50,000 titles available from over 600 publishers and content providers.

OverDrive. They can download content from sites powered byoverdrive.com, including 7,500 libraries’ Web sites worldwide. (http://search.overdrive.com)

Device Pricing Information Effective Sept. 16

120 GB: $249.99

80 GB: $229.99

16 GB: $199.00

8 GB: $149.99

4 GB: $129.99

Published Sep 08 2008, 05:50 PM by pthurrott
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gorath said:

No mention of markets other than the frickin US again, huh?

September 8, 2008 4:01 PM
 

Interframe said:

Finally, the Zune's built in Wi-fi pays off! But seriously, there are some very, very impressive and highly interesting things going on here such as:

The Zune Social online music community. Being able to be a Zune pass subscriber and share and download music anywhere (where there is a wi-fi hotspot) is really cool.

And although Apple's (expensive and fragile) ipod touch has had a wi-fi store for longer now, being able to download songs from any wi-fi hotspot on a (at least) $149 device is impressive.

Also some other things such as Games and audio books is something that was needed but Wi-fi features open a whole new world (who knows what they'll bring in the next spring update).

"FM to go" and "personal picks" along with other new features has innovation written all over it. Great Job MS! Lets see how Apple with counter this.  

September 8, 2008 4:36 PM
 

Ocean said:

That buy from FM is a cool feature.

September 8, 2008 5:34 PM
 

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September 8, 2008 5:54 PM
 

yert said:

I had an article on features I wanted to see in the Zune, and buying from any hotspot was on of them. Tag from radio was not (kudos to MS for thinking beyond what I did).

But I have to comment on the date...

It's on the eve of Apple Day! You bastards are ruining Apple's glorious day!!! It was bad enough you were trying to spoil it with the Seinfeld ad on the fourth, but now this on the eve? And what next? A better mouse and a couple other announcements tomorrow? Apple bought this day, your just trying to ruin it! Why don't you leave Apple alone!?!?!

/sarcasm

September 8, 2008 6:54 PM
 

shark47 said:

The Audible support will make Leo and Paul happy, I

think.

I'm surprised they didn't make any changes to the hardware other than bumping up the capacity. It does look like Microsoft has finally decided to stop copying Apple and make this about the software rather than the hardware, which, in my opinion, is the right way to go. It'll be interesting to see the Zune software on WM7 phones.

By the way, what's with the press release one day before Apple's iPod event? Weird.

September 8, 2008 6:58 PM
 

shark47 said:

Ina Fried is reporting that they had the press release today because Fry's leaked the details. There, I answered my own question. So, no conspiracy there.

September 8, 2008 7:50 PM
 

Lindy said:

Lol, details of Apple release tomorrow have been leaked for some time why did they not go public?

Yeah Fry's is the reason MS came clean.....NOT.  Sorry just dont buy it.  

Lots of Zune news coming out today is an attempt to take some wind out of Apple's event tomorrow, is the most plausible theory on this kind of behavior.  Or at least way more so than a mouse announcement.

I guess we shall see which is more talked about on Wednesday???

September 8, 2008 8:29 PM
 

shark47 said:

Lindy, this was such a low key affair that it's going to be lost amidst the deluge of iPod news tomorrow. I don't think MS would have wanted that.

September 8, 2008 8:37 PM
 

shark47 said:

Other than a few tech sites, no one is even carrying this news. Is there any doubt which product is more talked about on Wednesday?

September 8, 2008 8:42 PM
 

tayme said:

@sharky - I agree...plus, it gives Jobs new targets to throw his fodder at tomorrow.

--tayme

September 8, 2008 8:43 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

To me the amazing thing is that you have pretty much the same feature set and UI available in your two year old device as you get with a new one and with all devices from a $130 4GB Flash device up to the $250 120GB hard drive unit.

Doing one year of "don't replace your old device, here's a free update" was pretty cool considering what's become normal in the music player market (yes, I mean iPod). Doing it for two years and supporting the latest features on the oldest hardware is just an amazing demonstration of the power of software. (And not treating your users like they were cars buyers in 1958 who couldn't be seen with last year's tail fins)

September 8, 2008 8:52 PM
 

Lindy said:

I agree with you Mike, updating of Zune 1.0 device to this firmware is really a nice touch.  MS needs to do something to show a difference at this point between the two.  That so far IMO is the strongest showing.

September 8, 2008 8:57 PM
 

tayme said:

No doubt on the Zune 1.0 getting the update as well. In my house, we have 2-30GB originals and an 80GB 2G. We are anxiously awaiting the update.

The more I think about t, the more I wonder if MS did "leak" the info to Fry's as part of the onslaught of Apple that they are doing. I have a feeling that this update is going to have everything that iTunes 8 has...I also have a feeling that Jobs is going to announce subscription based music, which I (tooting my own horn here, in Paul's style) predicted last year for August of 2008. Somehow, he will sell it as an revolutionary service. That and going back to the old Nano form factor, with sleeker edges, and some social networking over the wireless. Time will tell.

--tayme

September 8, 2008 9:19 PM
 

subzerohitman721 said:

Slow and stead wins the race. Being able to get songs that you hear off the radio? Now thats just too sweet! I don't know how many times I"ve heard a song on the radio, but forgot the song later. Then I get annoyed when I get to iTunes, I can't remember the song. Now Zune is getting better models than the iPod? It should be a game changer, but the flock will be about the iPod. It also has one thing the iPod doesn't have, a subscription model.

I think if Microsoft keeps making these changes this way, they'll get into a stronger position to challenge the iPod and iTunes dominance.

I do think they need to broadcast these new changes stronger. TV commercials that show you identifying new songs and being able to buy them. The new blue colors. Just go full court press against iTunes.

September 8, 2008 9:19 PM
 

shark47 said:

The problem is that if Apple comes out with its own subscription service and has most of the features that the Zune does, that makes the Zune that much less likely to succeed. Also, like Lindy mentioned, on Wednesday, no one is going to be talking about Zunes.

Also, what if the iTunes subscription service is cheaper than ZunePass or if the devices themselves are cheaper?

September 8, 2008 9:25 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

Of course, the real synergy is the combination of WiFi marketplace, FM selection, Channels and Personal Picks when combined with the Zune Pass subscription model.

September 8, 2008 9:46 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

What I find an interesting point in apparent bias is that neither Engadget nor Gizmodo have stories about today's Zune announcements...

September 8, 2008 9:52 PM
 

tayme said:

That gives MS a week to counter and lower their prices. Risky move, if thats the case...but bold. Didn't MS say they were going to take Apple on, head first? (My words, not theirs)

--tayme

September 8, 2008 9:53 PM
 

tayme said:

@Mike

I didn't see anything on Gizmodo, but this was posted at 2:31 PM today - www.engadget.com/.../microsoft-confirms-new-zunes

--tayme

September 8, 2008 9:56 PM
 

tayme said:

Yup...on Gizmodo at 2:52 PM today - gizmodo.com/.../official-new-zune-lineup-packs-more-storage-wi+fi-downloads

10 seconds of research...

--tayme

September 8, 2008 9:59 PM
 

Master3 said:

@mikegalos

"What I find an interesting point in apparent bias is that neither Engadget nor Gizmodo have stories about today's Zune announcements..."

Engadget has their expected "OMG Apple gonna have an event tomorrow, and we will be there live!!!" posting, but so far no plans to cover the Microsoft event, which was scheduled for Sept. 9 before Apple.

Shocker.

September 8, 2008 10:05 PM
 

Ocean said:

>>Of course, the real synergy is the combination of WiFi marketplace, FM selection, Channels and Personal Picks when combined with the Zune Pass subscription model.<<

Now all they have to do is get their message out.

September 8, 2008 10:06 PM
 

Ocean said:

September 8, 2008 10:07 PM
 

Ocean said:

>>no plans to cover the Microsoft event<<

I think you have to ask yourself what their readers want covered...in other words, whats going to get them the most eyeballs.

September 8, 2008 10:13 PM
 

shark47 said:

Ocean, in the tech field, there are some analysts who use Apple to promote their career and then there are those that use their careers to promote Apple. You can decide which category this guy falls into.

September 8, 2008 10:14 PM
 

shark47 said:

And yes, it's true that these updates might not be enough to get people to buy Zunes. But they're a step in the right direction and make Zunes all the more compelling. At the very least, Zune is now a credible alternative to the iPod. Remember that this is the same deviced that was ridiculed by most analysts when it came out.

September 8, 2008 10:21 PM
 

Lindy said:

If the rumors of a slightly new looking iTouch, with some possible new features, and the 8gig model at $199 are true, then it will hurt these Zune announcements.  I dont care who you are, use a iTouch for a day and you wont want to give it back.

www.macrumors.com/.../lets-rock-rumor-roundup-and-expectations

September 8, 2008 11:08 PM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

Odd, the Gizmodo story didn't show up in their RSS feed under the Zune tag...

September 8, 2008 11:09 PM
 

shark47 said:

"If the rumors of a slightly new looking iTouch, with some possible new features, and the 8gig model at $199 are true, then it will hurt these Zune announcements."

And the Nano in that case. Unless, of course, the 8 Gig Nano is $99. Maybe that will be the end of iPod Shuffle.

September 9, 2008 6:30 AM
 

shark47 said:

That said, what's with the frequent changes to the iPod Nano form factor. It was good two years ago. This is like change for the sake of change. "This is the thinnest Nano ever!!!" Yeah, and the ugliest too.

Waiting for the thread to be locked.

September 9, 2008 6:33 AM
 

Waethorn said:

"No mention of markets other than the frickin US again, huh?"

It's available in Canada already - has been since shortly after Zune 2.0 launch.  No Zune Marketplace (yet) though.  Likely it has something to do with having to have a certain amount of Canadian content, which is what Apple had to go through before bringing the iTMS here.  I don't have a Zune myself, but the software is a little more streamlined than WMP (which I don't mind at all - it's at least better than iTunes, and a helluva lot more stable).

September 9, 2008 6:59 AM
 

chuckb84 said:

Hmm, in advance of the breathlessly anticipated iPod event today, let me undercut my "iCabal" credentials just a bit. Look at this:

www.gizmodo.com.au/.../a_sad_fact_the_ipods_clickwheel_must_die-2.html

I agree with the article that the iPod is getting just a bit, er, "complex". Some "think different" is clearly in order, and the comments about the scalability of the click wheel also apply to whatever the (very similar) thing on the Zune is called.

As to this above from LIndy, "If the rumors of a slightly new looking iTouch, with some possible new features, and the 8gig model at $199 are true, then it will hurt these Zune announcements.  I dont care who you are, use a iTouch for a day and you wont want to give it back."

Well, mostly. Sometimes, though, I think it should have been called the iPod Look, because you have to look at the thing to get it to work. I have an old (don't even know what generation, 4th?) iPod classic in my car and it's great. I can push the clickwheel without looking, get tactile feedback and it's great. I tried using an iTouch in the same way and man, that's dangerous.

So, I guess this depends on what you're after. The iPod classic is a great design, but doesn't really seem to scale with more features. The Zune may be a featured-up Classic/Nano, the Touch goes in another direction.

As an aside, old-timers (and RPN freaks, if anyone still cares) should look up

"i41cXP", an HP41c calculator emulator for the iPhone/Touch. Great demo of what the mulitouch interface can do.

September 9, 2008 8:01 AM
 

Ocean said:

>>That said, what's with the frequent changes to the iPod Nano form factor. It was good two years ago. <<

They'd rather start a new upgrade cycle and disrupt a their own strong product sales than have someone else come in and cannibalize them.

September 9, 2008 8:25 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

chuckb

There have been lots of very good HP41c emulators for touch screen devices for a while. What does multitouch add?

Seriously. I'm really curious. I can't see what it brings since you're emulating a physical device that used single button clicks to begin with.

(Now, when they do an hp16c emulator, let me know)

September 9, 2008 8:27 AM
 

shark47 said:

"They'd rather start a new upgrade cycle and disrupt a their own strong product sales than have someone else come in and cannibalize them."

That's not the reason for it. Even with the old form factor, they would have continued selling millions of Nanos. They have to keep making changes to the product line because that's what the people watching the event have come to expect from them. Some of these changes, IMO, are unnecessary, but Apple believes that any kind of change is better than no change at all, and that might be true in their case.

September 9, 2008 8:34 AM
 

tayme said:

I believe that some of the reasons for constant upgrading is to generate new sales. I think that Mike Galos laid out the announcemnt schedule pretty good a while back...with this release, both by Apple and MS, they are setting themselves up for the holiday shopping season. How long have digital media players been on the market? Some people, especially teenagers, are on their 4th or 5th unit...with the old ones laying around gathering dust. Thats pretty sad, when you think about it.

--tayme

September 9, 2008 8:45 AM
 

chuckb84 said:

@Mike

"There have been lots of very good HP41c emulators for touch screen devices for a while. What does multitouch add?

Seriously. I'm really curious. I can't see what it brings since you're emulating a physical device that used single button clicks to begin with."

You're right, it is really just the touchscreen interface, doesn't use multitouch. I was not aware of a touchscreen emulator of the 41c until I saw this one for my iTouch. I'd be interested to know what other devices have 41c touchscreen emulators. I'm just happy to have one on my iTouch :).

For HP-16c, look here:

mac.softpedia.com/.../HP-16C-iPhone.shtml

Haven't tried it, but sounds like what you want....

September 9, 2008 8:56 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

"To me the amazing thing is that you have pretty much the same feature set and UI available in your two year old device as you get with a new one "

For once I agree with Mike. That and a great subscription service are the only reasons I would ever recommend a Zune to anyone. Even then, it's a hard sell IMHO. Nice to see Microsoft innovating in this space, though. The competition is good for everyone.

September 9, 2008 9:14 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

chuckb

I've used 41c emulators on Windows CE (back before there was a Windows Mobile) and on Windows mobile devices. I know I've seen them for other phones as well. It seems to be one of the first things people write for a new platform.

It's cool seeing a 16c emulator on iPhone. There aren't that many of us around who even remember it. (I have 3 of them since I ran across two being closed out for $5 each and figured that's backup devices for life)

September 9, 2008 9:22 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

tayme

"Some people, especially teenagers, are on their 4th or 5th unit...with the old ones laying around gathering dust. Thats pretty sad, when you think about it."

Of course, with the software upgrades on Zune you see less of this. (The only reasons for replacing your old one are upgrading capacity, deciding you want different Zune Originals engraving or really, really wanting a new color)

Anyone who has an old Zune just lying around gathering dust can feel free to mail it to me!

September 9, 2008 9:28 AM
 

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