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"While you can connect to Xbox LIVE using an Xbox 360 Memory Unit with 128MB of available space, you will not be able to enjoy all the great features like Xbox LIVE Primetime and video downloads."

This suggests that even if you have an MMU, they want you get the "full" XBOX Live Experience, which you can only do with a hard drive.

It sound like maybe LIVE! saw that you had a hard drive on that console. I have two xbox arcade one that I have not use for LIVE I'll give it a try I have a hard drive on one and none in the other. They where purchased the same day. For now maybe call Microsoft.

I have the same experience - An Arcade system with a hard drive attatched (from a RRODed system). I figured Live saw I had the drive attatched and told me I didn't qualify.

I think I can confirmed it the xbox that has never been on live was given a go on the website. The one that I put the hard drive on and connected to live just gave me the :you are ready to go" page. So this is BS I should be able to get two hard drives not just one. Can anyone else confirm this?

To be honest they need only check the DRM rights to see if any have been assigned to content over a certain size.

So you should disconnect the drive and then try to connect....

Then you'll get your $20/20GB REFURBISHED hard drive.

Uck!  I feel dirty just saying it like that....

@Weathorn

I tried that no matter what I do the arcade that I was using with the hard drive does not get to the page to order. I guess I'll call and ask why, maybe I am getting this wrong and it's limited on per house hold or something. Either way I hope I an order a second becuase I been trying out netflix and it is really cool to have so many movies available for such a low price. Im actually thinking of canceling all premium channels in my dish and just use netflix.

I think this is a pretty good deal, for the consumers and for Microsoft.  Once people have the hard drive, the XBLA market probably will become more popular.

"I tried that no matter what I do the arcade that I was using with the hard drive does not get to the page to order."

When you hook up a hard drive, does the 360 save some kind of profile that has info about the drive, even when the drive is disconnected?

That's likely the reason.

As an OT, Ocean mentioned Paul's Wikipedia article where his integrity has been questioned. Guess who edits Wikipedia articles. I can go in and edit Paul's Wikipedia page to add an entry that he killed all the squirrels near his house.

wait, Paul killed all the squirrels by his house?

holy crap. Bill Bailey wouldn't like that.

Yup, but you can't edit the blog articles they link to as proof (and the reason its still in the article).

@Doc - I left you a PM regarding the laptop. For the rest of the crew here...that laptop that Doc has been bragging about over the last week or so is actually pretty awesome for $399. It will serve most people that just want to browse, email, and store photos very well. And it is actually fairly sharp looking. Too bad the sale ended on Sunday. Good tip, Doc!!!

--tayme

No, Paul did not kill the squirrels...it was the mice and rats!

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--tayme

@tayme, all:

Who the h3ll would buy a neutered Eee PC, when you can get a FULLY-FUNCTIONAL laptop for the same amount of money??!!

@waethorn

Isn't it obvious?  They are nice and small and light.  Keep one by the tv to check on things.   Also, very convenient to carry on the road as they are so small and light.

I use my iphone for a lot of this, but a netbook is more convenient really.  Its about the smallest size display/kbd to be useful for my parents.

-d

@Waethorn - I guess that it is a matter of personal choice...remember the much reviled automobile comparisons.

--tayme