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Thanks for this.

It was really bugging me having it on the taskbar.

I found another (annoying) problem with the Windows Live Messeger beta.  It steals focus with its contacts window, making the desktop gadgets loose focus.  In practice what this means is that if you have gadgets on your desktop and use Aero peek or desktop peek (the little whoseewhatist in the right corner) your desktop looks like it's empty.  You have to minimize all your windows, click the desktop and then maximize them again to be able to Aero/Desktop peek at the gadgets again.  Anyone else see this and have a solution or workaround?  I've switched to Digsby for now, which does this less (but still does it).

It's actually Windows 6.1, not 7.

windowsteamblog.com/.../why-7.aspx

agreed, i don't like the messenger icon on the taskbar in Win7, i have been closing it down to get rid of it... cheers for the fix... hopefully MS sort this out.

@robertsjoe...  Its marketing name is "Windows 7" and its 6.1 by version number - solely for compatibility if/when a program asks for it.

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@glenroberts: Please don't feed robertsjoe.

He's nothing more than the local troll.

Agreed RunTimeError.  He should go back to the Trollerpark where he came from.

Anyway, good tip, but will there be a permanent solution, or maybe an option within the Messenger app when it's fully released (as well as 7 being released of course)?

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Just to keep up with robertsjoe and Ocean on the OT, trolling posts...

www.apple.com/.../05sjletter.html

That last sentence reminds me of Forrest Gump! In all honesty, I sincerely hope that Jobs has a quick and full recovery.

--tayme

I am not sure I know anyone that uses a vendors IM client, unless they are at work and use Office Communicator and cant install what they want.

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Tayme,

This is the best commentary I've seen about the mans health:

>>Aren’t you glad that your weight isn’t the subject of an avalanche of discussion–some of it by people who apparently thought they knew more about Steve Jobs’ health than the man himself did?<<

technologizer.com/.../a-letter-from-steve-jobs

I'm sure Paul will tell us this is far more important than the Zune outage where MS did basically nothing to fix the problem...

"Aren’t you glad that your weight isn’t the subject of an avalanche of discussion"

I am, but I'm not the iconic CEO of a company.  Poor analogy.

"Zune outage where MS did basically nothing to fix the problem."

A single day outage that will fix itself after the day is over?  What were they supposed to do in that time?  Find the problem, rush out a firmware fix of unknown quality, that by the time it is distributed, the problem will be resolved?  They kept everyone informed, much more than other companies would/could have and especially given the limited nature of the outage the level of interaction was more than enough.  It even exceeded MS's own typical level of interaction.  It was a stupid programming error that they should have known better.  Isn't the first time, won't be the last, from MS or any other company.

Ocean I agree Dipsh t Admin, it was really a non-issue after it righted its self in 24 hours.

Had it required you to send it in then it would have been an issue.

At best it was bad press at a time that Microsoft does not need anymore bad press.

You know, that's what I like about my 1993 Jag and NT. Keeping it simple.

All this glass see thru stuff...

Hey drwam: I bet your $400 laptop can run NT like a champ!

:-)

Nice thanks...I hope they change that behavior by RC or with an update to WLM itself.

"Find the problem, rush out a firmware fix of unknown quality, that by the time it is distributed, the problem will be resolved?"

I don't think they could've done anything about it at that time. Even when connected to the PC, the Zune wouldn't restart. There was no way to update the device with a new firmware when it wouldn't even restart. Microsoft has to update the driver at some point before Dec 2012, though.

"Microsoft has to update the driver at some point before Dec 2012, though."

Or not.  2012 would make the Zune 30 what 6 years old?  They could easily say its not supported anymore.  Surely the battery will be dead in most if not all, and its only a 24 hour outage.

Then again I would patch it if it did not require much work/$$$ to do so.  It will probably be thrown in with a firmware update that adds more functionality in 2009 as the Zune continues to develop.

"I'm sure Paul will tell us this is far more important than the Zune outage where MS did basically nothing to fix the problem..."

It is, "ocean". The health of Steve Jobs is a huge concern since, in the misguided view of many in the industry, Jobs IS Apple, Inc. A Zune outage? That whole story was a tempest in a teapot, and you know it.

But Paul's not going to comment on Jobs' illness and recovery. Everything's been said that needs to be said, and there are bigger fish to fry.

Jobs is hormonal and that why he is supposedly looking like an emaciated Sryian. I really hope he focus' on his health and maybe start a 3rd act like Gates and does something selfless with his fortune.

"Its marketing name is "Windows 7" and its 6.1 by version number - solely for compatibility if/when a program asks for it."

Solely because it's not a major update. If it was, it'd be taking another 5 years to be released. That's not to say it won't be delayed (which it will). Can't wait for Windows 6.1.

@robertsjoe - more of that broken record, huh???

--tayme

Definitely an annoyance that Microsoft needs to fix. What was wrong with WLM behavior in the tray before hand? I think this is a case of over engineering a simple messenging program. Why didn't they include an option to return the messanger to the system tray?

It is just very odd and I really do hope they fix this before it is officially released.

I'm glad that Steve Jobs health issue has been addressed by Jobs. I really do hope he focuses on his health and the contributing issues to his health. I would hope we'll have him around in the coming years and decades. Its rare to have someone with that kind of drive and genius.

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