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A few more changes from Windows 7 Beta to RC…

Over the past several post-Beta Windows 7 builds, we've seen a crazy number of changes, and I've been told to expect that to continue as Microsoft rolls ever onward to the Release Candidate (RC) build, due publicly next month. Today, the Engineering Windows 7 blog piped up about this very issue, as it turns out, discussing publicly some more changes to expect in the RC. With comments, of course. :)

Note that most of these are very minor changes, as usual.

Desktop Experience

1. Improved taskbar thumbnail overflow

Our customers are enjoying how windows are grouped and revealed on the enhanced taskbar.

Um. Not all of your customers enjoy the default taskbar button grouping scheme, actually. I have stated this repeatedly, and still feel very strongly, that the default view is anti-productive and confusing to users. A better choice is the option "Combine when taskbar is full," which provides button labels and, more importantly, different buttons for different windows. In the default view, a single IE button can have any number of underlying windows (and tabs). It's a bad system, and I don't mean just for me.

Improved overflow is fine but nowhere near as meaningful as doing the right thing here.

2. Control Panel Jump List

Right-clicking on the Control Panel icon on the taskbar in Beta revealed a noticeably sparse Jump List ... Now [it] surfaces recently used items.

A minor refinement.

2. PowerShell Jump List
3. Remote Desktop Jump List

These will affect very few users. And the list is mis-numbered. :)

4. Applying taskbar settings

For a variety of reasons, previous versions of Windows saved taskbar settings only after Explorer exited at the end of a session.

So. This is a bug fix.

Touch

5. Multi-touch zoom

We have added support for the zoom gesture in Windows Explorer.  Using the zoom gesture you can switch between view modes in Explorer such as zooming from Small Icons to Extra Large icons.

Neat.

Windows Explorer and Libraries

6. Invert Selection

"Invert Selection" [is a] rarely used feature [that] is pretty complex to implement in the context of virtualized lists ... we added back the functionality for RC.

If only you gave this level of attention to the important stuff. The taskbar default view. The inconsistencies between the taskbar button and tray notification icon behaviors. You know, the big stuff. The message here seems to be, no picayune issue is too small to ignore, while the important stuff is always to big to address.

7. Going up?

We’ve heard feedback, especially from those on this blog,  that in Windows 7 moving up in the folder hierarchy often requires multiple clicks ... For RC, the parent folder’s button will appear in the address bar at all times and therefore going ‘up’ will always be a single click away in a predictable location.

Small, but nice. Certainly more of an issue than "invert selection."

8. Finding music by artist

In RC, the “Artist” view in the Music Library groups together multiple tracks from an album by the common “Album Artist” property when it is available, groups tracks from compilation albums together into a “Various Artists” group and finally resorts to grouping by “Contributing Artist”.

This is a bug fix. That should have simply been there already.

9. New folder is always available

We’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback during Beta about adding a top level “New folder” button in Explorer, freeing customers from digging into submenus.  A common complaint we received, however, was that the button only appeared when nothing is selected.  For RC, we’ve changed this so the “New folder” button will always appear, regardless of selection.

10. Right-click in Windows Explorer

We heard feedback that it was too hard to find space and get to the view’s background context menu for items such as New and Paste.

11. Content view for search results

12. Intelligent re-indexing after application installation

In Win7 Beta (and previous versions of Windows), customers were required to rebuild their index whenever a new file handler was installed ...

Performance

13. Trimming sound schemes to help performance

We know our customers care about performance. We discovered that by just trimming the shutdown and logoff WAV files, we could save up to 400 ms. Every little bit counts.

More bug fixes. It should always work like that.

Device Stage

14. Baseline Device Stage experience

Several manufacturers are implementing custom experiences, but a large number have also opted to support their older devices in what we call the “baseline” Device Stage experience ... This UX works exactly like full Device Stage; the device image appears on the taskbar whenever it is connected and tasks are exposed in the Jump List.

15. Devices and Printers enhancement

PC and laptop makers such as Lenovo, were very interested in doing more than just showing the machine’s icon in Devices and Printers. They told us they wanted to leverage Device Stage to help them better customize the experience for our mutual customers. In RC double-clicking on the PC icon now offers a Device Stage UX. Like the other Device Stage devices, Device Stage for PC will be enabled when the PC maker has chosen to participate with their system.

Small but important and elegant expansions of this feature. They both make sense, and these are the type of refinements you get when you actually use received feedback about a product. Good one.

Devices and Printers

16. Unified experience for removing devices

[Previously], removing a printer only removed the print queue and for Bluetooth devices it only removed the pairing of the device to the PC. We have changed this action to always completely uninstall the device across all device classes – which is the action that most customers expect.

17. Hardware properties

We know enthusiasts use the Device Manager’s property page to check the status of a device. We heard feedback that this wasn’t convenient and so we now also surface the property page directly from the Devices and Printers experience. Simply right-click on the device and one has one less reason to visit Device Manager.

18. Improved eject experience

Based on feedback, we have integrated Safely Remove hardware and Eject to one option, "Eject."

Common sense. (i.e. are arguably bug fixes as this is the way it should always work.)

19. USB device reliability on resume

20. FireWire camera support

Some customers informed us they were unable to connected their 1394 HDV camera and stream its contents to their Beta machine. With the help of customers, we were able to identify a fault with our core 1394 stack and we’ve validated the scenario works in RC.

Device Installation

21. Add Legacy Hardware functionality restored

The Add Legacy Hardware action was provided in Device Manager on past Windows releases to install non-Plug and Play devices. We removed this functionality for Windows 7 with the belief that this was rarely used ... this functionality has been restored to Device Manager for RC to help add non-Plug and Play devices.

22. Increased responsiveness of Add Printer Wizard

Bug fixes, plain and simple.

System

23. Partition size reduction

In Windows Vista, configuring features such as Windows Recovery Environment and Bit Locker required significant customer interaction.  Also, a significant amount of drive space was reserved. The Windows 7 System partition enables features to be configured to work “out of the box” so very little customer interaction is needed to configure and utilize them.  Based on feedback and telemetry data received through the beta, it became clear that we could cut the drive size in half (from 200M to 100M).

24. Reserved System Partition naming

The system partition is created automatically by Setup when installing on a machine with no existing partitions ... We will now label it “System Reserved”.

This one has been in planning for some time, I was told at a recent reviewer's workshop. It's a simple refinement, but in the days of 320 GB hard drives on starter laptops, it's unclear what difference this really makes. Just a simple refinement.

25. Dual Boot partition drive letter assignment

For a dual boot configuration for the Beta, the other Windows OS wouldn’t get a drive letter and therefore wouldn’t show up in explorer. Assigning the drive letter makes it visible in explorer and aids in navigation across OS installations.

Common sense bug fix.

26. Pagefile reduction

Through extensive use of Beta telemetry data, we have determined we can slim down the Windows disk footprint further by reducing the default page file size to be 100% of the available main memory.  It used to be "Memory + 300MB."

Network

27. Improved driver support

Based on telemetry data received from the beta, we identified networking drivers that were not available inbox.  We worked with ecosystem partners to achieve increased inbox driver coverage across wireless and wired with significant coverage for some of the new ATOM-based laptops.

Both are simple refinements, and both should help on low-end systems. (Especially netbooks.)

OK. So what have we learned here?

Of the 28 items, most can be labeled bug fixes or minor feedback-related refinements. Very few involve any major UI changes, which is odd because we've seen a lot of UI work occurring over the 703x - 705x builds, and we can expect more before RC is finalized. Microsoft still refuses to address the (admittedly few) very real UX issues in Windows 7, the most notable of which (the taskbar) could be "fixed" with a simple default button view change. That's too bad, but we are making progress.

Comments

 

kenmcnamee said:

For anyone interested in the x64 version of Windows 7 build 7057, it has just been leaked to the torrentweb. I will be upgrading my main desktop machine tonight from build 7048 which has been good to me but hey, 7057 must be 9 better right?

March 13, 2009 2:26 PM
 

tayme said:

MS is taking a page out of Apple's "300 features" book, huh, Paul?

--tayme

March 13, 2009 2:45 PM
 

weedmonk said:

The E7 guys serve up another piping  hot cup of stfu.

March 13, 2009 2:52 PM
 

Waethorn said:

"We worked with ecosystem partners to achieve increased inbox driver coverage across wireless and wired with significant coverage for some of the new ATOM-based laptops."

Does that mean we'll have GMA 500 Aero drivers that actually work?  Intel needs to get on this - their posted driver is still "only for developer use" and is stuck at a version that is from Q3 of last year.

March 13, 2009 3:51 PM
 

aaron.axvig said:

Paul, if you and whoever else whines about the taskbar defaults enough to get them to change it, I am going to be soooooo mad.  I find the default taskbar setup to be quite useful and intuitive.

March 13, 2009 4:16 PM
 

BrightrevCarl said:

The Remote Desktop Jump List is something I'll use absolutely every day.  Good feature.

Paul mentioned his problem with the default Windows 7 taskbar view three times in this blog post alone.  In answer, I say:

1. The current Windows 7 taskbar view is better.

2. The current Windows 7 taskbar view is better.

3. The current Windows 7 taskbar view is better.

March 13, 2009 4:16 PM
 

yipcanjo said:

I like how the "Remote Desktop" jump list will only affect very few users -- for instance *NEARLY EVERYONE* that I work with!  In my world, Paul, having a "recently visited"-type jump list for remote desktop connections is huge!

A great list of fixes...despite Paul's whining :)

(To be fair, I agree with Paul on the default taskbar setting)

March 13, 2009 4:23 PM
 

ababiec said:

I'm going to add my name to the list of people that disagrees with Paul about the taskbar default.

4. The current Windows 7 taskbar view is better.

March 13, 2009 4:32 PM
 

UFies.org said:

Paul Thurrott weighs in on the changes from Windows 7 Beta to RC. Not all good news IHHO....

March 13, 2009 4:38 PM
 

Waethorn said:

Wait, let me grab a pen....

Nevermind, I'm using one of these:

http://www.hantech.ca/

$130CDN to convert a regular notebook to a Tablet PC.  Windows Vista premium versions (Home Prem or higher) recognize it has a USB HID Pen Device, so the Tablet PC options instantly come alive when you plug the sensor in.

March 13, 2009 4:59 PM
 

wjglenn141 said:

I have to disagree with you, Paul. I really like the default grouping. It's subtle and attractive. And you can change the setting. People I've done (very informal) testing with have had little problem figuring out what's going on.

I'd much rather see you flex your muscles trying to get features changed where we have no option to change the default.

March 13, 2009 5:02 PM
 

kenmcnamee said:

wjglenn141: "I'd much rather see you flex your muscles trying to get features changed where we have no option to change the default."

I think that's the smartest thing I've heard anyone say today. That said, I happen to agree with Paul and don't particularly like the default taskbar behavior in Windows 7. However, it's easy enough to unpin everything - which is the way I like it.

March 13, 2009 5:29 PM
 

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March 13, 2009 5:52 PM
 

CompactDstrxion said:

26. Pagefile reduction

Through extensive use of Beta telemetry data, we have determined we can slim down the Windows disk footprint further by reducing the default page file size to be 100% of the available main memory.  It used to be "Memory + 300MB."

Why the hell should the size of the pagefile have anything to do with the amount of physical memory anyway? I always set it to 3 gigs fixed and forget it.

March 13, 2009 5:55 PM
 

stimshady said:

i give up with the taskbar thing now, the view that Paul wants is old XP/Vista style and not new and funky like the default current view.  i would put money on more people liking the current view than Paul's suggested view.  Sorry Paul, i just have to disagree massively with this ongoing (almost now obssessive) moan about it!  

Interesting other points, looks like they are making a lot of good changes, bug fixes or not.

March 13, 2009 6:23 PM
 

stimshady said:

Ken, you're missing the whole point of the new taskbar, no wonder you like the older style, fill it up rather than having a huge empty rectangle at the bottom of the screen!

This is a new way of working and it's designed to be full of icons not empty.  You are missing out on so much by having nothing in there - jumplists for one, also instant access to apps, instant multiple opening of various files etc.    Try it 'full', for at least a little while (MS deserve that!) you might end up liking it.

I have it so full, it often ends up scrolling, and i'm now wanting the taskbar to act like an application and be mouse-scrollable when too full, rather than clicking on the big arrow.

March 13, 2009 6:40 PM
 

kenmcnamee said:

stimshady: I haven't missed the point of anything. I've been using Windows 7 as my main OS for almost 3 months now and I tried the default taskbar view for the first month of that time period. I'm sorry but I simply do not like it as much as the simpler taskbar view in which nothing is pinned and any taskbar items that I see are for running programs. And I'm a software engineer so, believe me, my taskbar is plenty full of running programs all the time. I don't need other taskbar items down there getting in the way and confusing things.

I also keep my desktop completely free of icons except for the recycle bin. My wife's desktop is so full of icons that I don't know why she bothers even setting the wallpaper because you can't see it. Everyone works differently - to each his own. I'm just happy that Microsoft has provided the option to configure the taskbar to the way I work best.

March 13, 2009 6:54 PM
 

stimshady said:

fair enough (as you say, each to their own), but i do think you're missing out.  The taskbar is much more powerful than ever before, and having the icons there gives more power before launching apps as well as during use of the application.

(i agree with you about desktop icons, i keep my desktop fairly uncluttered).

i too have been using the beta since release and i think it took me a month to really start using the taskbar to it full potential!

March 13, 2009 7:05 PM
 

robertsjoe said:

Paul, still think Vista will be released in April? As you previously said.

March 13, 2009 8:24 PM
 

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March 13, 2009 8:37 PM
 

Lindy said:

"Of the 28 items, most can be labeled bug fixes or minor feedback-related refinements"

Sounds like Windows 7 overall compared to Vista:)

March 13, 2009 9:00 PM
 

robertsjoe said:

Re the IE8 "speed tests":

"but it turns out that the darling of Web browser benchmarks really isn't Safari. Or Chrome. Or even Firefox. It's IE 8:"

". Against competing browsers ... Including Firefox's shipping version, 3.05 ... And Chrome's shipping version, 1.0. [They also tested against Safari 3.x and 4.x betas --Paul]"

There was no mention of Safari in their PDF or in the video. Obviously they don't have the guts to show the results including Safari.

March 13, 2009 9:37 PM
 

Bydia said:

Paul, anyway you could get them to add folders to the favorite shortcut area of the file explorer... then it would be great like XP.  See this video: http://tinyurl.com/MyWin7Wish   This would allow a user to create their own power navigation in the file explorer. Sorry, about the audio in the video.  I cannot fix it.

March 13, 2009 9:46 PM
 

Dipsh t Admin said:

"Paul, still think Vista will be released in April? As you previously said."

Please provide a link to where he said this.

"Sounds like Snow Leopard compared to Leopard :)"

Lindy, I fixed it for you.

March 13, 2009 9:59 PM
 

robertsjoe said:

@Dipsh t Admin:  ""Paul, still think Vista will be released in April? As you previously said."

Please provide a link to where he said this."

Here you go. Try and spin out of this "factoid".

community.winsupersite.com/.../when-will-windows-7-ship-my-prediction-april-2009.aspx

March 13, 2009 11:27 PM
 

Bydia said:

RE: 25. Dual Boot partition drive letter assignment.

I usually have a folder of shared greenware (programs that do not need to be installed and can be run from dual boot OSes on all my computers) in a folder on C:\).  Win7 behaved weirdly when I tried to install on what I thought was D:\ (drive 1 or partition D). It changed it to C:\ and my original C:\ disappeared. I do not like the new way.

March 14, 2009 12:36 AM
 

darkmax said:

Bydia,

it happens to me as well. all you need to do is to go to the Computer Management --> Storage, to reassign the other drive letter.

March 14, 2009 2:06 AM
 

scaramouch said:

I think Sinofsky should give Paul another edition of Windows 7 - then he will stop screaming.

Come on Paul, you used to be a cool guy.

5. The current Windows 7 taskbar view is so much better.

March 14, 2009 3:32 AM
 

rohde said:

I wonder why Paul thinks that his stance on the taskbar is the right and true UI way of doing it.

I bloody love how the taskbare works in the beta, and I would hate it if they changed it to Paul's vision. Unfortunately Paul has probably a lot of clout, and they might cave in to him. I hope not.

March 14, 2009 5:21 AM
 

cgdams said:

Said it before, and i'll say it again, just for the records:

After having used it, i do like the new taskbar and it's stacked look quite a it better than the taskbar, Vista style.

I think MS should leave the default settings the way they are now.

March 14, 2009 5:56 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

"Please provide a link to where he said this"

"Here you go. Try and spin out of this "factoid"."

LMAO

THAT'S the way to link, "robertsjoe". Nicely done.

March 14, 2009 8:31 AM
 

shark47 said:

"LMAO

THAT'S the way to link, "robertsjoe". Nicely done."

Can you show me where he mentions "Vista" there?

Thank you!

March 14, 2009 9:51 AM
 

lotsamystuff said:

"Can you show me where he mentions "Vista" there?

Thank you!"

You're welcome:

"Windows 7 and SP2 [<----THERE IT IS!] share more code than people realize as well, by the way ... My understanding is that Vista SP2 [<----THERE IT IS!] and Windows 7 will be the baseline for both application and device compatibility going forward, and that’s a big part of the code sharing between these two releases."

or as "tayme" said in the same thread:

"Oh, Paul...Even though what you stated is factual, you left it wide open for the anti-MS crowd to continue the W7 is Vista 2 campaign."

...which plays off something Paul has said repeatedly:

"So I'm excited and a bit scared by Windows 7. Yeah, I get it, its [sic] Windows Vista done right."

community.winsupersite.com/.../i-think-i-can-address-the-windows-7-minor-or-major-update-question-now.aspx

March 14, 2009 10:55 AM
 

mikegalos@msn.com said:

Just to keep Paul's predictions on the record, the article that robertsjoe labeled incorrectly then linked to correctly then quoted incorrectly...

Paul predicted back in December 5, 2008 that:

Microsoft Windows 7 would be finalized in April 2009 at the latest and ship to consumers no later than June 2009

His prediction for Apple Snow Leopard in a comment on that article was August 2009

March 14, 2009 11:07 AM
 

Waethorn said:

""Here you go. Try and spin out of this "factoid"."

"LMAO.  THAT'S the way to link, "robertsjoe". Nicely done."

"Microsoft Windows 7 would be finalized in April 2009 at the latest and ship to consumers no later than June 2009"

Since losta likes to play games with comments, Paul didn't actually say when Vista SP2 was going to be shipped in that statement.  He only predicted it was going to be FINALIZED April 2009.  He also only predicted that Windows 7 would SHIP June 2009, not that it was shipping in April 2009.

Congratulations losta.  You get the Academy award for outstanding achievement for acting.

Oh....except according to you, that award category doesn't exist.

;)

March 14, 2009 11:31 AM
 

Waethorn said:

And now for something completely different:

www.youtube.com/watch

Maybe NSFW....  ;)

Brought to you by the CBC.  Hilarity ensues.

Enjoy!

March 14, 2009 1:20 PM
 

SwampYankee said:

Can one just do an upgrade wit this build or does one need to do a complete reinstall?

March 14, 2009 1:52 PM
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