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This should give anyone pause. There's been a lot of talk about the Red Ring of Death stuff over the past year because that $1 billion warranty thing, but let's be serious, red-ringing is only one of the Xbox 360's many, many problems. There are others that Microsoft, amazingly, has yet to address. This one they chalk up to user error. But I've seen it happen several times on my own Xbox 360s. And it's the machine, not the user. Anyway... See what happens when a customer service expert runs into Microsoft customer support. It's not pretty.

I spend part of every day working with customers, sort of "the buck stops here" technical support. So I have more than a little compassion for people who, day after day, must suffer through clueless customers. But Microsoft's XBOX Technical Support has set a new low.

It all started when my brand new XBOX 360 made grinding noises and ate the demo DVD that came with the system.

Scratched DVD. Easy problem, right? No, not in Microsoft land.

...

This whole thing should have been one phone call that lasted less than five minutes. Instead, Microsoft's collateral damage is as follows:

  • Support reps on the phone for two hours.
  • Paid to ship console to and from customer.
  • Paid to replace customer's console (which probably had nothing wrong with it.)
  • Paid to ship bad DVD back to customer, in a separate envelope.
  • Public display of complete incompetence.

And the sad thing is, I still don't have a disc that works :-(

As noted in the comments, you can take part in a Xbox 360 game disk replacement program, but only if the game is made by Microsoft and only if you feel like paying $20 to fix something that the console may very well have broken for you. Have fun with that.

Comments

 

johnbaxter said:

I don't have an Xbox 360 (or a PS3, or a Wii) because I'm not a gamer.

But Microsoft seems remarkably determined to make it easy to continue to not have an Xbox 360.

April 20, 2009 5:05 PM
 

slimshadey said:

2007 was just a year of baaaaad press for Microsoft.  Vista was a turd, especially out the door, zune had a lousy launch and the 360 issues imploded, resulting in a 1 billion dollar right off.  

It ended with a 4 week outage of Xbox Live, for which I got a free copy of Undertow.

April 20, 2009 5:11 PM
 

kenmcnamee said:

I would have bought a 360 by now if it hadn't been for the many, many horror stories like this one. As it stands, I have a Wii for casual gaming but do all my hardcore gaming on a PC. I doubt I will ever buy a 360 and I'll probably wait until at least 6 months after the next XBOX launches to even think about paying good money for it. Let everyone else be the guinea pigs I say.

April 20, 2009 5:48 PM
 

jf181 said:

I understand that mistakes will be made when a company is pushing out new technology.   So I forgive Microsoft for the RROD's, over heated systems and scratched disks that were caused by early builds.  

The part I can't understand is why they haven't updated the console form factor and manufacturing process after all these years.  A 360 is basically an obsolete PC.  Why can't they just build one that works?!?

April 20, 2009 5:56 PM
 

slimshadey said:

@jf181 I agree, why cant they fix it by now.  I know people with Elites from 2008 that have gotten RROD's and those were supposed to have a shrunk GPU, lower power capacitors and a better heatsync than my may 2006 model that has RROD twice.

Now I have few friends that have gotten the dreaded E74 issue and have been fighting with MS for a few weeks but luckily that is now covered.

I also have a PS3 and man its night and day quality and its silent.  My PS3 is a Sept 08 model that has the shrunk GPU/CPU so I cant vouch for the launch models.

By now the 360 should be a lean machine, with a shrunk CPU/GPU using less power and producing less heat and not falling apart.

April 20, 2009 6:28 PM
 

Waethorn said:

"I don't have an Xbox 360 (or a PS3, or a Wii) because I'm not a gamer."

I have a PS3, but not because I'm a gamer.  I wanted something to store some digital media on it, and I like to do the odd social stuff on PS Home.  I'm still waiting for it to come out of beta too, but it has some very interesting things in it.  I have a few of the PS Store casual games too.  Flower is neato, as is flOw.  I have a few movies on Blu-ray as well.  Planet Earth is amazing on Blu-ray.

"A 360 is basically an obsolete PC."

Most consoles are.  Just look at the Nintendo Wii:  "Wii: the power of yesterday's 486 with an S3 Virge.  Today!"

April 20, 2009 6:36 PM
 

niyokochan said:

Any word about if this man's 360 had the first generation drive? That is the one that was reported to scratch the disks.

Either by overshadowing or it has been all but fixed, I have not heard a complaint about disc scratching for a while now. I think this is now a mute point.

I bought a US 360 the summer after launch with the updated drive and never had one game scratched. To counter point that, my friend here in Japan has a 1st generation and her Final Fantasy 11 disc has a lovely scratch ring. >.<  I recently bought a JP 360 since I moved and I have noticed a dramatic noise and heat reduction. My Jasper 360 is quieter and cooler then my friend's PS3.  

I don't know what the currently available 360s are, but I'd say to make the effort to get a Jasper if you want a new 360.

Plus I love the extended warranty that I have on my 360s :)  I'm sorry to hear that Paul has had 5 360 duds, but nice to know that they did it at no cost.

April 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 

DRWAM said:

Just buy an extended warranty with the Xbox. I did for my Vizio PDP that blew up after two years, but they can keep replacing it until the 5 year warranty is up. The replacement is 2 years old, so I guess that I have one safe year left. I would do the same with the Xbox, if I ever had any time to game.

April 20, 2009 8:00 PM
 

tayme said:

I've had a 360 for several years. It has never had any problems at all. It was connected to my big HD set and was in an open shelf, so that probably helped. It is now at college with my daughter and I haven't heard that it has a problem yet. We'll se when she comes home for the summer. I agree though...as wide spread as these problems are, you would think that they would have been dealt with by now.

--tayme

April 20, 2009 10:40 PM
 

rjohn05 said:

I will be surprised if they are able to sell a next gen gaming system after the 360 issues.

April 21, 2009 12:38 AM
 

gorath said:

rjohn, you can't be serious, right?

They're still selling truckloads of 360s, as well as games. It's not like the general public has been turned off them, even though most people I know, know of the issues. Hell, i bought one myself, fully knowing it might die at any time.

I really don't think it's going to imact them in the next generation - although I do agree that it will go down in history as one of the most unreliable consoles ever!

Ironically, especially considering this blog post, those people I know who've had issues with their Xbox, tend to be more satisfied with MS as a company after having it fixed than they were before - due to the speedy and easy nature with which it was fixed/replaced.

April 21, 2009 3:18 AM
 

DRWAM said:

Gorath and all, that guy's complaint just doesn't seem right to me. I hate to question someone's integrity, but my two experiences with MS customer support was quick and friendly. While I understand that YMMV, the complaint is the opposite of my experience, including the shipping. MS gave me a shipping refund. They already had the money, but gave it back. Also, didn't they extend the Xbox warranty to 2 years? However, Bestbuy sells a 2 yr warranty for $40.

April 21, 2009 6:43 AM
 

CapnScurvy said:

Yaargghhh! A keelhauled sea hag of a vessel ye XBox 360 be! I myself must daily scrape the barnacles from her hull and incant an ancient sea shanty to appease Poseidon, lest she not make it through the briny depths of Halo alive. Arrggghh, I say, aaargghh to that!

April 21, 2009 8:06 AM
 

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