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Yup...a big honkin' iPod is all I see so far. Lets see where it goes from here...

--tayme

Lets see... Paul seems to hate it.

That must mean its going to be a HUGE success!

The reason for the bezel is so that you have a place to hold it without touching the screen.

Calling it a dud before the event is over?  tsk tsk tsk...

Doesn't look anywhere a nice as the HP Slate .... too bad.

The 1GHz Apple A4 chip.

.5 inches thin, 1.5 pounds -- 9.7 inch IPS display

10 hours of battery life.

Maybe this will be an Apple device that end up gathering dust along with all the chrome OS idiot books.

Can run all iPhone apps unmodified out of the box

pixel double and run the apps full screen

The keynote isn't even over, and Paul proclaims it to be a failure.

Yep. I see "huge hit" all over this thing.

Better pictures than Pauls here:

www.engadget.com/.../live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event

The engadget site is hammered. It comes up well on the WebOS Engadget app, though.

--tayme

Unfortunately it's not about how good it is or whether it's been done before.  For the non-techie, it didn't happen or doesn't exist until Apple does it.  I expect it will be marginally popular, more popular than a tablet PC but not as popular as the iPhone or the iTouch.  As everyone keeps pointing out price matters.  Not all of us can afford these things.  In case you hadn't noticed we are in an economic crisis.

So is it just a big iPod touch?

"The reason for the bezel is so that you have a place to hold it without touching the screen."

Yeah NO SH!TEEE.  Then again is NOT smarter than a 5th grader.

Sorry so far the thing is amazing.  The netbook died today.

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I must say; the specs are rubbish. Apple should have left this alone until they figured out shoe horning at least  2 ghz  of processing power. As above I think we'll look back on this and ask.  "why"?

"Not all of us can afford these things.  In case you hadn't noticed we are in an economic crisis."

Yeah 90% of us are employed.  So I did not catch the price?  What is it, since you seem to know.

"Not all of us can afford these things.  In case you hadn't noticed we are in an economic crisis."

Not all of us are whining about living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world with our expensive houses, cars and gadgets. Some of us appreciate the unbelievable prosperity we have compared to the vast majority of the rest of the world. Some of us don't consider  someone who wears a shirt and tie to work in a nice office environment to be particularly economically distressed compared to, say, your average Jamaican. Some of us are glad there's a market for stuff like this, even if it doesn't necessarily appeal to our demographic. Some of us like having something to strive for instead of whining about how miserable life is.

"at least  2 ghz  of processing power"

Tell us more about the silicon they're running this on. Why isn't 1ghz enough?

"For the non-techie, it didn't happen or doesn't exist until Apple does it."

Just because Apple made some successful products (as well as some failures) doesn't make it being the God.

@rr0de74@live.com. I strongly disagree! Net books are set to come into their own, with faster processors, dedicated graphics and decent storage. As well as the coffee shop, they make the ideal 'kitchen computer' (about time). Remember, with this new apple device, you'll be hitting computing brick walls that no one should have to experience in this day and age.

There's Ocean being weird and passive/aggressive again. Are you vying for attention?

Why would I want this thing when I can just get a netbook, a Windows mobile phone, a Wacom tablet, a Kindle and an XBox 360 instead?

@rog Andre  Please tell us all you know about that A4 chip and how its under powered?

iPaul please chime in as well since you seem to know about it.  iWinsupersite has the best iPad coverage.  iPaul should create a iJealousy app.

"Tell us more about the silicon they're running this on. Why isn't 1ghz enough?"

Right ... it is just a giant iPhone anyway!

Flash capable? Ipugly.

Check latest reviews on google they all say it. Fuglys the most used word for this

Price will determine the success in my opinion. If it is more than $500US, I don't see it selling like the iPod or iPhone. I would think that even the most rabid iCabalist has to be a bit underwhelmed so far. But, as Jobs likes to say, "One more thing...."

--tayme

Fujitsu hold the ipad name.

"There's Ocean being weird and passive/aggressive again."

HUH?

abh-news.com/apple-tablet-pc-naming-ipad-price-at-1266-u-s-dollars-660.html

I can see balmer rubbing his hands and slobbering. gimme that slate anyday, what a disappointment .

lotsamystuff said: "Not all of us are whining about living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world with our expensive houses, cars and gadgets. Some of us appreciate the unbelievable prosperity we have compared to the vast majority of the rest of the world. Some of us don't consider  someone who wears a shirt and tie to work in a nice office environment to be particularly economically distressed compared to, say, your average Jamaican. Some of us are glad there's a market for stuff like this, even if it doesn't necessarily appeal to our demographic. Some of us like having something to strive for instead of whining about how miserable life is."

So, there are poorer people in – erm – Jamaica. Weird choice, but sure. And this means, apparently, that Spiggy really can afford one of these things and/or we’re not actually an economic crisis. You make some bizarre and confused arguments, Lotsamystuff. Perhaps, though, you weren’t making that argument and were just typing a lot of irrelevant nonsense into the thread. Well, it works for psychological oddball that is Ocean.

@ rr0de74@live.com

Ok, it's slower than the first issue 1.6ghz netbooks and will get hot when you work the wimpering animal. And.I've heard it runs a version of the I phone OS. Snow leapord would have been impressive, but this is obviously a rush and people will kick themselves for buying it when version 2 comes out.

This may force Amazon's hand to switch to epub...but will not replace a Kindle. Not by a long shot!

--tayme

Ocean said: "["There's Ocean being weird and passive/aggressive again."] HUH?"

I realise I was being hopelessly cryptic there. I’ll decipher: You are being weird and passive/aggressive again.

So Paul, when are you getting one?

Where is the multi-tasking? I can do that on my Palm WebOS device...maybe they will make a 10 inch version, too! Still, very underwhelmed by this thing.

--tayme

Always a good sign when Paul slams a Apple product, usually means its going to be a hit

How?

Man, this is deja vu of the iphone launch. Paul is totally critical of the device, and it inevitable failure.

Gizmodo said:  an iWork-like app was all that was missing from the iPhone in order to allow businesspeople to “work from the road” and leave their computers at home.

Paul is slamming it pretty hard...taht is to be expected. But, honestly...some of you regular iCabalists...what are your thoughts so far? I own 3 Macs and 2 iPods in my family...I like them...and I think that Apple makes some good stuff. But really, this isn't much so far. Just a big honkin' iPod with a few add on apps(that most likely will also be available for iPhone/iPod at some point). I am interested to hear other opinions of the Apple crowd...honest opinions, not fanboy rants.

--tayme

"Dude1313 said: Always a good sign when Paul slams a Apple product, usually means its going to be a hit"

You’re obviously a real thinker. When can we be expecting your Philosophiæ Principia Epistemica?

Tayme, I like what the NYTimes said:

"One of the weird things about the presentation is how it is really all about the software. The gadget itself is transparent, a window into software."

I'm going to have to agree with Paul here. I was really looking forward to the eBook reader side of this but nothing too impressive... .pdf support?? and seriously iWorks should not be a key component.... YAWN

Looks good to me. I've been holding off on the Kindle because I want a color screen. The iPad screen looks beautiful in color. As poster, Heran, pointed out, it's like a big ITouch.

I don't mind the wide bezel. Most readers have wide bezels so you don't have to leave finger prints on the screen.

The only thing that scares me is the price. I hope it's under $500. But I have a feeling it will be much more.  

PRS- Easy isn't this a copy and past job from Paul from 2007?

Tayme- dont consider myself a cabalist as I have an HP desktop a home as well, to me it depends on price.

Ocean said: Gizmodo said:  an iWork-like app was all that was missing from the iPhone in order to allow businesspeople to “work from the road” and leave their computers at home."

Are you just pasting things essentially at random? What’s next – the ABEC rating of the bearings in your office chair, or a history of the gavel as an ornamental mallet?

OH MY GOD THE iPAD IS WONDERFUL!!!

Apple does it again!!!! They have reinvented tech as we know it!!! It runs Apps...apps!!!!!

The iPad is the 8th wonder of the world...now I can browse the web... I can watch a movie!!! I can even read a magazine...imagine how wonderful it will be to finally be able to sit in a chair and read a magazine...I’m so excited I’m wetting myself?!?!?!?

If the iPad where a person I'd marry it!!! STEVE JOBS IS A GOD...no… he’s THE God!!  I want to have his baby and call him iJesus!!!

$499

HAH! 499

So much for that $1000 price there Paul.

$499 for this piece of crap?

Get real Apple. I have a $300 netbook that can do some of this.

Well at $499 you have your wish for it being under $500

Ballmer and his hardware partners just got a HUGE headache.

16GB WIFI $499

16GB WIFI+3G $629

32GB WIFI $599

32GB WIFI+3G $729

64GB WIFI $699

64GB WIFI+3G $829

@chipwinter

You have a touchscreen netbook for 300?

The only comment I have for right now is that the iPad name is absolutely horrible and pun-tastic.  The MaxiPad.  The iPad, even aunt Flo loves it.

Hmmm, interesting pricing scheme. It will sell! Not to me, but it will sell. I have devices that meet all fo those needs and hate putting all of my eggs in one basket. Plus, e-ink blows this thing away as a reader...even without color. That is my opinion. Good job though, Apple.

--tayme

iJesus....luv it

might as well wait for the kindle to lower it's dx price, or until iPad version 2 comes out in August...

Dude1313 said: "PRS- Easy isn't this a copy and past job from Paul from 2007?"

You do a good line in total gibberish. I can only wonder what insights you might have revealed had your groping for a faintly coherent sentence been successful.

iPad is coming in at $499.

The OEM's might as well shut up shop.

It's GAME OVER for them.

Most expensive versions (64GB) are $699 (wifi) and $829 (wifi + 3G)

You can get 3g+WiFi for $629

@rog Andre why does this device, or any other device have to have a desktop OS shoved into it?  People that think that have a very limited vision.

This will be sold to consumers, not IT people.  Lets say I take a long flight, I may bring an iPod for music, magazine, book, maybe a DS or PSP, or iTouch/iPhone for games and then maybe a laptop to watch movies for 2-3 hours before the battery dies.  Or just this device.

"Ballmer and his hardware partners just got a HUGE headache."

They just breathed a sigh of releif and are going for a night on the town!  This POS is a joke!

The price does seem a bit stiff for the upper level models, but not bad for the base one. Seems like a strange pricing scheme.

Ocean said: "Ballmer and his hardware partners just got a HUGE headache."

There he is again – like an attention-starved child dancing on the coffee table while the adults try to have a conversation. Ocean: You're being very silly; and it's past your bedtime.

Hmm...so I was gonna call this an epic fail, but it seems everybody else made that conclusion already.

If pricing for this isn't under $500, it's just another iFangrrl wallet-milking machine.

Also, 3G support is going to be a disappointment all around for US customers.  You either have the AT&T Fail Network, or you have the better coverage of the obsolete CDMA system that Verizon offers that isn't compatible with the rest of the world.  I'd place a bet that Apple offers it on AT&T, if any at all, just for the fact that the radio will be [more] compatible with worldwide markets than CDMA.

As far as the name, it's totally EPIC FAIL:

www.youtube.com/watch

LOL!

When someone talks about bleeding pu$$!3$, I'll think about Apple.

Money quote from Engadget live blog

"Jonny Ive talking about magical devices. "That's exactly what the iPad is." Magical? Really? Doesn't seem that magical to us!"

multitasking???? where is it? Plus does this mean i can use google voice on this  if i get the 3g plan?

As of yet, I still like the Lenovo offering that is a laptop -slate  over this new ipad.

Man, I thought I was harsh on Apple, but Paul always calls it like it is.  The fanboys won't be happy by this completely truthful look at it.

Come on guys, it is nothing but a big iPhone.  If it was a full Mac, maybe, it would be worth something.

So this is less of what Microsoft introduced back in 2001 or 2002?  Is Apple slipping?

iDud indeed.

Doesn't change my mind, I'm still holding out for the HP.

And to think....

Last week, I was a click away from spending almost $300 for the small Kindle. Now, I am glad I waited. I'm going to get the 16GB for $500.

Now I just hope I don't have to wait until 2011 before I can hold one.

The only problem I can see now is AT&T.

I live in NYC and AT&T is horrible here. Jobs did mention something about how it can take a SIM card. Maybe I can go with T-Mobile instead. It's not as good as Verizon, but certainly better than AT&T. I think Apple would really help itself if it dumped the AT&T exclusive and opened itself up to more wireless carriers.

"It seems like a high priced, unnecessary trinket to me"

How is your Kindle iPaul?  I take it off your hands for $99, if you have the DX version.

Kindle DX $489 vs iPad 16gig $499.  Which does more?  Which can hold more?  Which does iPaul own.

This is the start of something very big.

Aggressive prices to start, and they'll tumble from there.

So if you can possible change the SIM card out does that mean you can also replace the battery?????????

Apple says they want to be at the “intersection of technology and liberal arts.”

rr0de74@live.com  Paul owns the kindle 2 so just relax there killer.....

I predict huge success because of the price.

iPaul paid $499 for his first iPhone and he will own one of these, mark my word.

It seems I've sent him into something of a frenzy!

@rrode74

I'll pay an extra 10.00 for the iPad, you get more for the money.

Of course Paul is let down.

And Apple will sell tens of millions of them and the App Store will explode. So much for Paul being a entrepreneur. He doesn't get the whole profit thing.

Apple iPad first 30 days sales > All copies of Windows 7 Secrets that will ever be sold or given away.

Nuff said.

I *CANNOT* wait to hear this weeks Windows Weekly.

A true Kindle Killer!

I have a strong feeling that iPaul will be among the first to own one :-)

And speaking of Kindle. I am not completely sure, but isn't there already an app to read Kindle docs on the iPhone and iTouch? If that's the case, then there is no reason to buy a Kindle, unless you like black and white screens.

I'm sorry I just don't see this device taking the place of a net book. They maybe ugly or whatever, but they run a complete OS so you can do whatever you want on them. This apple device again uses a stripped down OS version that has it's limitations and you will eventually need a computer to do task you can't on it. I think its a disappointment! Just a big iPod touch, atleast the HP Slate runs a complete OS not a stripped down version. and come on, no multitasking!!!!.....I would prefer to buy a new iPod and not this tablet .

"I am interested to hear other opinions of the Apple crowd...honest opinions, not fanboy rants."

Okay. I don't want one. I don't want a netbook, either, I'm quite happy with my Macbook Pro and my iPhone. That said, I really don't know how this will do in the market. If I really wanted something compact, feather light and was willing to put up with some compromises, I'd get a Macbook Air instead of an iPad.

It seems to me the logical people to want this gadget are the iPhone owners who do NOT have a Mac already....instead of getting an iPhone and a Mac, they can just get an iPad. How many people is that?? Dont' know...but there may be a lot of people who want what I get from my Macbook Pro without having to deal with a "computer".

It seems to me this is a typical Apple 1.0 release, like the 128K Mac, like the original iPhone, flawed in some ways, missing features, with some perplexing choices. I don't know if it defines a new product niche or not.

One things is now cleared up: We know why Apple bought PA Semiconductor. The A4 is what they've been doing. This may be the sleeper feature on this gadget; presumably the cpu is optimized for battery life and performance. However, this also puts Apple at some disadvantage in this new "tweener" category.....it isn't gonna run Windows or Windows Apps, so the audience will split into those who don't care about that and those who'll get a Windows netbook instead for just that reason.

One of the (very) few things Ballmer has said that I agree with is that many of the apps for the iPhone exist to make particular web pages more usable on a small screen. So, despite what Jobs said, the iPhone does not deliver the real internet, really more of the baby internet, simply because of screen real estate limitations. The iPad fixes that limitation and may----emphasis may---let the iPhone grow up into what it always should have been.

A Mac site (daringfireball) has this old quote from Alan Kay,

"Alan Kay, regarding his reaction to the iPhone in January 2007:

When the Mac first came out, Newsweek asked me what I [thought] of it. I said: Well, it’s the first personal computer worth criticizing. So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world."

So, we'll see....

I'm going to use my iPad as I ride my unicorn...bringing world peace in the name of Steve!!!!

I’m throwing out my 16 inch dual core graphics accelerated HP laptop I only paid $700 for... I don't think Apple’s profits are a result of obscene markups.  Take all my money Apple I don't deserve it!!!  I had no value as a person now, thanks to Apple, I’m cool because of my computer…I’m iCool…I was nothing before the iPad!!!

I'm so happy I just “Nanoed” in my pants !!!  The iPad has saved my life!!!!

Maybe the cool packaging, and all the hip and trendy commercials that are sure to flood TV will help convince people that this is not actually a flop.  

The sheep will buy, the sheep will buy...

@brichter45 my only point about the Kindle, is Paul loves it, has bought more than one of then says the iPad is a "high priced, unnecessary trinket "

You dont see the hypocrisy in that?  

The iPad is 100x more functional than any Kindle version.  Maybe 140,000 x if you look at it from a "number of applications" view point.  

The only question now is will Kindle just update their iPhone app to take full advantage of the iPad and kill off their device or will they keep making their device...after slashing the price???

The Apple A4 is just an ARM CPU.

Otherwise, the existing iPhone apps wouldn't work.

Hahaha look at that thing, looks so unwieldy, then the part about how one can use it as an alarm clock a dvd/tv viewer in the living room that is why we have T.V. jobs, and even a cook book, but for that you would need 3 docks, hmm expensive, I would rather go with a PC or home server at the center with it hooked up to my alarm clock, tv, and a cheap lcd display for cook books, than carry that thing around. haha what a failure and no that isn't a tablet, tablets gets things done.

Given Paul's record on Apple predictions of success or failure(iPhone, cough cough!) I would say this will be pretty successful. It's far more capable, and usable than a netbook. I have yet to meet one that isn't painful to use for more than an hour. If there really isn't a camera in the bezel and/or an SD card reader that will be a big mistake.

Please let's stop comparing this to the tablet PC. Those were resounding failures for several reasons. Ergonomics, software, battery life, size, weight, price. Did any of these have go-anywhere internet access built in? Multitouch? Let's stop declaring a product a failure until it's tested on the market no matter who makes it. How many pundits continue to get it dead wrong on Apple year after year?

And please explain to me how a device like a Kindle gets positive reviews at it's price point and people start dumping on the iPad at it's debut and it's a much more capable device? Makes no sense to me.

rr0de74@live.com  seriously the only reason you're here is to bash Paul, lets see your blog.... quit being a whiny baby, really.... comparing the number of iPads going to be sold to the numbers of his book is a low blow and basically childish.

I wouldn't call it a "fail", but I also wouldn't call it "ground breaking". More of a "Yawn..."

I agree with you Paul!  Except I called it an iFlop!  Very disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The Apple A4 is just an ARM CPU.

Otherwise, the existing iPhone apps wouldn't work."

Isn't that like saying the Intel Core 2 Duo is just an x86 CPU.

Otherwise the existing Windows apps wouldn't work.

"I'm sorry I just don't see this device taking the place of a net book."

It depends on how you look at it.  The people I know that own a netbook, do 98% of what the iPad does and does better, surf, email, photos etc.

Would you rather read a book on a netbook or iPad?

Kindle won people over because Amazon created a device that was the first of it's kind. Now since there is more competition in the eBook market it's considered expensive. I had high expectations for Apples take on this and am let down. They had time to see what the market wants and do not deliver. It's not over yet, this is just the first unveiling but honestly i was hoping to be a little more impressed. To each his own i guess, and i really wanted this to be something revolutionary but honestly it's not. iPhone was revolutionary and Paul with his Windows bias didn't see that. This is just a bigger iPhone.

After wasting 90 minutes watching this presentation, I'm still trying to work out the killer application on this device. Why do I need it?

"Isn't that like saying the Intel Core 2 Duo is just an x86 CPU.

Otherwise the existing Windows apps wouldn't work."

At the least, it's based on the ARM architecture.

The kindle does have some points over the ipad the grayscale screen makes it feel more natural to read that a bright glossy screen, it has a weeks worth of battery life, the iPad 10 hours, and free 3G

I have another name for it...iYawn!

"Kindle DX $489 vs iPad 16gig $499.  Which does more?  Which can hold more?  Which does iPaul own."

Which has an e-ink screen suited for reading and services that niche well?  And the free 3G for doing what it is designed to do?  And who buys the DX?

chuck, very well thought out response.

Price is good for the base model, but from a video consumption perspective, not so great.  So much for the dual cameras and OLED screen I heard Calcanis talk about just today.  Why no standardized micro-USB cord?  AT&T?  No thank you.

It will be interesting to see how this will sell.  I can't say whether it will or not.  

Interesting... When the Zune launch the Win Fans all rushed out and said "Lets give it time and see where it goes". Fair enough. I did give the Zune the benefit of the doubt. Where did it go? No where.

So now a product that just got announced is dead because Paul says so? I'll wait to see what happens but after all the iPhone was supposed to be a failure...

So the question does it succeed like the iPhone or fail like the Zune. My money is on "like the iPhone".

It is kind of depressing when I think of the innocent folk being fooled into buying an inferior device. Here's one for you PC owners. If you run Linux mint live from optical disk (not sure if mac will boot from usb) then that mac is at your mercy because the live desktop works and will see the Hard Drive, It was tempting to hit the install button but the macs owner wouldn't let me :(

OK, four comments.

First, Paul's remarks are just absurd. He deems the product a "dud" before the demonstration is even over and before he gets his hand on one. For someone who's supposed to be a pundit, he has zero foresight and zero credibility. It's probably more true that he writes this kind of stuff as link-bait and although that's probably smart, I can't respect him (or others) who game the system that way.

Second, the comments here were pretty much what I expected. They are so extreme pro and con. I try to filter through them to get some actual insights, but it's difficult with all the posturing. For me, it's a shame. I'm looking of analysis and insights and instead it's 90% (maybe 99%) insults and chest thumping.

Third, my biggest disappointment was with publishing. I thought a new metaphor might be enabled that would change publishing like iTunes changed music distribution. Looks like the same old same old to me. I don't really get the book store. Wish them lots of luck with it, but I don't really see it doing that well.

Fourth, When I sit back and think about the pricing, I think the iPad is going to end up being a very, very successful device. When Windows had the advantage of applications, the number of applications Windows ran were everything and when Apple got the big application advantage it was deemed meaningless because they were all ifart and tip calculators. But the truth is that the App store is a very big deal. And that's why this device will be big too. Right now we're seeing the hardware but the true power of this device will come through when the new apps written specifically for it start to come out.

I was looking for something more and for something different. But for no other reason than the App store, the iPad is going to be a huge success. And if some other aspect, like book sales, etc. catches on, then we'll look back and all say that we knew from the start that Apple had a game changer.

@tayme: "some of you regular iCabalists...what are your thoughts so far?"

It's a good start. A real good start. It's not as souped up as I thought it would be... then again, what can you *really* do these days to impress the pants off people? You can only throw so much hardware and fancy tricks around these days. It's all marketing spin now for both Apple and Microsoft (and Apple has the upper hand here - sorry, when was the last time MS had this kind of positive hype around something that wasn't even official?).

Personally, though I'll wait for iPad 2.0. I like the idea, I like the presentation and I *really* like the pay as you go 3G pricing scheme (and the fact you do not have to have 3G if you don't want it).

That paint program they demoed was pretty awesome. I also like the fact that the OS, which we all know is a ramped up iPhone OS, was designed, from the ground up, for touch. It's not an existing OS with touch slapped onto it.

All in all a great take on the tablet computer. I'll wait a year until all the kinks are worked out and then I'll consider one. To be honest, I'd rather take this out with me than my MBP.

As well, having a full, working demo was the best part of this whole thing. People can crow all they want about about the HP Slate and the like, but what did Ballmer show off at CES that was drool worthy? Twilight? A vague release date of "sometime in the second half of 2010"?

Sorry folks, love 'em or hate 'em, Apple has pazazz. It may only be a boring old tablet but they know how to market these things and now everyone will want one.

And five bux says in two years Paul will wonder how he ever lived without one :)

@brichter45 seriously Paul writing a iDud article before the launch event is even 50% over and you are calling me childish?

Why is Paul even covering it?  The problem for Paul is that his past work is easy to find and his latest comments can easily be compared.  In doing so its easy to see him for what he is, a shill.

Perfect example was his comments a few weeks ago about Apple (sigh Apple again) having a bad quarter and Mac sales declining yet on Monday he was proved wrong, very wrong.

The Kindle/iPad and one of them being a "high priced, unnecessary trinket" and the other not is another perfect example.

Paul is officially a joke.  I am done with his articles in Windows mag, his site and his podcast, well maybe 1 more podcast just to hear him moan on about Apple one more time for a good laugh.

The biggest joke about this is iWork.  Nobody in their right mind would use such a device for work.  Sorry, but that's the truth.

Ocean Said:Gizmodo said:  an iWork-like app was all that was missing from the iPhone in order to allow businesspeople to “work from the road” and leave their computers at home.

Riiiight. Because all kinds of businesses use iWork or even think that round tripping between current versions of Office and iWork is a good idea.

The Kindle does have 3G access. Too bad it's only for downloading content and not general purpose Internet. Is it really that difficult to download an eBook on your home computer and sync another brand eReader? Is the killer app of the Kindle really it's 3G access? $9.99 for an eBook? I can get a soft back for less and it takes more resources to produce! $5.99 for newspapers? Enough news sites are free anyway why pay on a Kindle? If Apple (or any other established hardware vendor ) had released the Kindle they would have been killed in the tech media. A $400+ device that does basically ONE thing. Where else in the tech sector do we give any other company such a pass?

Will the new A4 be used in the next iPhone?  I would think so, later this year, before consumers can even get their hands on a WinMO 7 device.

Where is the Microsoft hardware btw? Something other than a rendered Courier and imaginations (or delusions) in Paul's head.

"And please explain to me how a device like a Kindle gets positive reviews at it's price point and people start dumping on the iPad at its debut and it's a much more capable device? Makes no sense to me."

Amen.

"The biggest joke about this is iWork."  

Really.  Keynote rocks, way better than Powerpoint.  I imagine a adapter for a projector would make taking your iPad vs a full laptop into the conference room a better experience.  Take that keyboard if you had too.

If iWork on this device sucks, with its 10inch screen and full size keyboard if you dock it, does Office on WinMO TOTALLY SUCK??

@ Waethorn

The biggest joke is Windows. Nobody in their right mind would use such a operating system for work and pleasure.  Sorry, but that's the truth.

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Self correction. Current generation Kindles start at $259.

Interestingly enough, although it is called the iPad there is no handwriting recognition.  I would figure iPad would would hint at that.  Handwriting recognition or just the ability to take handwritten notes with a stylus would make this much more interesting to me.  Right now its just a bigger iPod, nice but not extremely interesting.

@ Logjamming "The biggest joke is Windows. Nobody in their right mind would use such a operating system for work and pleasure.  Sorry, but that's the truth."

Are you drunk? Only about a billion people do both every day...remember Mac OS market share?  Yep 4% globally.

Sorry Apple fanboys, but the reality is that iWork is a bad joke. It has nowhere near the functionality of Microsoft Office, which is the benchmark in office productivity. But, more importantly, it is impossible to be productive in an office app with mere touch-based input. It was hilarious watching the Apple Schiller shilling spreadsheets on a touch screen. lolz. Sheer Shilling Lunacy.

The logjamming you don't have a big monitor nor game watching TV in 1680X1050 higher than 720 p but lower than standard 1080 p, and gaming at that resolution is amazing so windows is really good at entertainment or as you put it pleasure. As for work I get a lot done on my computer I am almost always ahead of my mac owning counter parts in my programing class, probably because they have to use vmware fusion to use windows to program wow.

runner7775, that will come later see this is how apples does it they release hardware that doesn't have a lot of features and when they add one little one like a camera, hand writing stuff like that its a new model released at a higher price.

Honestly, I wasn't impressed. It's essentially a super-sized iPod Touch. I'd rather spend the bucks for a full Macbook or a Macbook Pro. The storage is no different than an iPod. I'm sure the Mac faithful will run out and get it. But from what I gather from many in the TWiT chat-room, most people were woefully unimpressed.

Also, once again the choice of AT&T killed it for me. Yes, you can stick another GSM carrier chip in but EV-DO is much better. So people are going to pay for home internet, cable/satellite, a cellphone, and the iPad access? I think that's asking too much of consumers. I think the wi-fi will sell, but honestly I was more impressed with the Lenovo U1 tablet.

Well, looks my decision on my Android device is made. Maybe the 3.0 version might be worth buying, but I'll pass on this first generation device.

If anything, the iPad looks so much like Rick Sternbach's PADD device from Star Trek: The Next Generation. If that's the case, that's really not very original. I wasn't inspired at all like i was for the iPod and the iPhone.

My final thought, that iPad name doesn't do it for me. I just don't think this is the revolutionary or evolutionary. I'll see what HP, Google, and Microsoft does.

"Self correction. Current generation Kindles start at $259"

But the 9.7 inch version, same size as the iPad is...

www.amazon.com/.../ref=dp_ob_title_def

The Kindle doe have free wireless but you can use it for very much at all.  Not going to stream a movie, or update your facebook.

Forget about e-readers you lot. E-books will be desireable when they work on something with the same texture as real paper and cardboard. So in effect you have a page turning book that is really a device, and is powered by the sun.

@ Silverstreak

Which is about the same amount of people that eat at McDonald's. Would you call that a good meal?

Getting an OS stuffed down your throat because of gridlock deals Microsoft makes with business (can you say 'Monopoly', says the EU?) is not a question of choice.

In consumer computing, Apple is growing year after year. Why? Because here, people do have a choice.

@Robert C

For Mac owners iWork is a very good product.  Since its only on a Mac you can only compare it to Office 2008.  Its cheaper than office($80 for a 5 pack), Pages and Numbers are feature equivalent to Word and Excel for 98% of users and Keynote is way better than Powerpoint on any platform.

<I am almost always ahead of my mac owning counter parts in my programing class, probably because they have to use vmware fusion to use windows to program wow.>

Perhaps you should stop going to the kindergarten then. Move up in the real world.

Apple is the anti-choice seriously if you think Microsoft is bad at choice Apple is worse there is no choice in there system.

@Redunion1940

 I agree, probably more updates and info will come along later this year(WWDC?).  

Can a capacitive touch screen do anything with a stylus?  In other words, could handwriting recognition(and notetaking) be added in a future software update?

Having thought about this a bit more, I have a couple more comments. Paul sees the coming ubiquity of cloud computing, and the iPad is a device that I think will succeed or fail with the cloud computing paradigm shift.

iPad won't run Microsoft Office, but so what? Use any of the various web page text editors, Google docs or the growing number of alternatives. Doesn't run Quicken, but then you financial stuff is in the cloud too.

My Macbook Pro replaced my desktop, because I can simply pick it up and walk away with it. The iPad relies on giving up cpu power locally and will succeed or fail based on ubiquitous, fast, reliable bandwidth to the cloud.

And, the reason I'm very content with my MBP/iPhone combo is that the iPhone is jailbroken to the tether the MPB. This combo starts to sound something like an iPad, doesn't it?

The iPad will do some things that the iPhone does, but better because of the larger screen:

GPS in the car. iPhone does this, but screen size is a bit marginal.

VIDEO in the car, for, ahem, passengers only, of course. I already use the Pandora radio client over the 3G network in my car with the iPhone plugged into the stereo. It's great and the iPad can take this to the next level.

So, I mainly think the iPad succeeds or fails based on connectivity to the cloud. One main conclusion from that is that you'd be nuts to buy the version without 3G, because it will emasculate the devices main use and probably frustrate the hell out of you. The worst point in the connectivity issue, of course, is ATT. Groan.

At this point, relying this heavily on fast, ubiquitous and reliable cloud connections is a bit of a stretch. But Apple has a history of taking risks like this and being proven right. No floppy in the iMac, the at first god awful slow OS X graphics compositing system that was proven right as GPUs improved, the 128K Mac that only became usable with 4-8 times more memory, etc.

The last point: I don't think this device is aimed at people like Paul or anyone commenting here. This is not a technoid's device and the objections, which I also share, are all along the lines of "Wow. It won't do X. My laptop will do X. I want a netbook instead."

So, it's another "for the rest of us" device. But, how many people is that?

"Interestingly enough, although it is called the iPad there is no handwriting recognition.  I would figure iPad would would hint at that.  Handwriting recognition or just the ability to take handwritten notes with a stylus would make this much more interesting to me.  Right now its just a bigger iPod, nice but not extremely interesting."

Who really cares about hand writing recognition when you have an easy to use keyboard?  Most people type much faster than they can write with a pencil.  

The truth is there is really little need for it.  

Most of the multitouch devices today don't support writing since they work by measuring the change in heat / electrical charge from a finger. You don't get that with pens or stylus devices.  

Actually Linux has a far bigger user base here in the UK than Mac does. That's real choice. You don't need to run office on a PC, because open office has come of age and goes like the blazes. Apple are becoming everything microsoft was critizised of being in the 90s.

Just a question for those who are underwhelmed...

What were you expecting?  

This is a large ipod/iphone.  That is for sure.  But isn't that really the point of the tablet device?

iDud is perfectly appropriate for this very run of the mill new product.. But one point of clarification; people are describing it as an oversized iphone, to be technically precise, it's really an over blown ipod touch..

And really the limitations of this thing are so pleny and varied, I can't see this thing selling to anyone other than the apple religious extremist jihadists.

I'm not really impressed as well. Iwonder if you can purchase the $15 unlimited plan, then download a Skype app and use it as a phone. OK, the biggest dang phone in the world, but with a very cheap plan.

I am more intrigued with what developers come up with for this device. The screen real estate opens up a lot of options and no doubt new API's were developed and are being developed to tap in to.

Many developers have done some really cool things with the iPhone/iPod touch and I want to see what they come up with for the iPad.

"And really the limitations of this thing are so pleny and varied"

Seriously, what are the limitations?

Remember that a tablet is not a desktop computer.  The whole point of the netbook / tablet is a lower cost machine to do basic stuff, email, surf the web, etc., where the user wants a smaller form machine.

This is the ideal machine for someone who would sit on the couch with a laptop updating their facebook page while watching TV.

Not something for me per se, but there is a LARGE portion of the population that will be interested in these type of machines.

Woops, unlimited plan is $30.

$15 was for 250 MB, I guess per month.

"Interestingly enough, although it is called the iPad there is no handwriting recognition.  I would figure iPad would would hint at that.  Handwriting recognition or just the ability to take handwritten notes with a stylus would make this much more interesting to me.  Right now its just a bigger iPod, nice but not extremely interesting."

It doesn't need handwriting recognition, because, right out of the box, it'll run the iPhone Dragon dictation software. A cloud computing application :) and better than handwriting recognition.

well apple's stock did finish $1.66 up for the day.  As far as paul, man that guy is cracking up.  Microsoft has had some incredibly terrible products but he's never had this much vitriol ever.  my theory of course is that paul is like the gay christian that constantly tries to straighten himself out but every now and then...  well you know, falls off the wagon. but hates himself for it and hates everyone else that does it.  paul will be the first loser on the block with one of these just so he can bemoan it here...  but of course will take it everywhere with him.

@ShinyNugget - "The Kindle does have 3G access. Too bad it's only for downloading content and not general purpose Internet."

Wrong - You can browse the web...both mobile and standard sites on a Kindle. It is in e-ink, but it is there...there is no Flash, but htere is Java...just like this big honkin' iPod.

--tayme

I completely agree, what a waste.  Nothing new that Windows and their PC making partners haven't done over the last 8 years.  

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There is nothing a netbook can do that the iPad can't. Or won't be able to.

Wanna run Office? Microsoft will release an Office app. Have a specialized app that only runs on Windows? There will be an app for that.

The iPad will just make this new platform blossom.

@Rr0de74 - "The Kindle doe have free wireless but you can use it for very much at all.  Not going to stream a movie, or update your facebook."

Wrong again. I HAVE updated a Facebook status on a Kindle. 10 seconds of research...and the e-ink screen is very easy on the eyes...more publisher support...lower per title pricing. In my opinion, the Kindle is a far superior e-reader.

--tayme

Better photos on Ars: arstechnica.com/.../photo-gallery-hands-on-with-the-ipad-and-live-event.ars

@Logjamming - "Would you call that a good meal?"

People in Haiti(and many other places in the world) would.

Remember, there is no one size fits all in anything. Different strokes for different folks...and that is a good thing! Brand loyalty and brand hatred are for the simple minded.

--tayme

"So, I mainly think the iPad succeeds or fails based on connectivity to the cloud. One main conclusion from that is that you'd be nuts to buy the version without 3G, because it will emasculate the devices main use and probably frustrate the hell out of you."

I actually DONT want the 3G.  I have wireless at home and at work, wireless N.

Ahh tayme feeling bad about that Kindle purchase, I dont blame you.  I bet viewing photos on facebook with a Kindle is the shiznitz!!!

Listening Twit live now, there impressions after using the device are very positive.  The speed is what they are liking the most.  I guess they dont need a Core 2.

I'd say the iPad would need to be able to multitask before the fanboys start declaring the end of the netbook.  Or maybe I'm crazy for wanting to browse sites for reference while composing an email.

@ChuckB84 - "I already use the Pandora radio client over the 3G network in my car with the iPhone plugged into the stereo. It's great and the iPad can take this to the next level."

How is that? Pandora is for streaming music...what is the "next level" of that? I use my Palm Pre to do that and send it via BT to my stereo...is that the next level that you speak of? BTW - I may have missed it, but does the Big Honkin' iPod have BT?

--tayme

@yoshipod - "What were you expecting? "

Didn't Jobs state that this announcement was going to be the biggest thing in Apple's history or some such thing...just yesterday? How does this meet that expectation for you?

--tayme

@yoshipod

No flash

No handwriting recognition (what these devices were created for).

No OLED

No multitasking

No voice control

No Wireless syncing

No OSX - Just the same limited ipod/iphone OS

No Webcam

No SMS app

No USB ports

No task manager

No removable storage

No decent graphics card

And it has the second biggest bevel of any device and a lousy keyboard.. But.. it's the best web experience ever according to Ayatollah Jobs.

"Keynote rocks, way better than Powerpoint."

That's funny.  That's a bigger joke than this thing.

"I imagine a adapter for a projector would make taking your iPad vs a full laptop into the conference room a better experience....If iWork on this device sucks, with its 10inch screen and full size keyboard if you dock it, does Office on WinMO TOTALLY SUCK??"

Samsung already intro'ed a mobile projector for one of their new phones actually.  One software is Microsoft Office, the other is not.  Which one do business users buy?  Also, how many users do you see honestly see running Microsoft Office on a comparable 10" netbook?  Not that many I would fathom.

"Take that keyboard if you had too."

Apple taxation means an iPad + keyboard works out to about $1000.  Really.  You honestly think any business worker is going to pay $1000 for this tripe with limited computing options, non-present manageability, being designed for consumers?  Ya, I thought not.

No flash.

No multi tasking.

No camera (not a big deal in my book).

Not HD.

Sorry. I'll wait for the windows device that will do all of the above and run and windows app I choose.

@rr0de74 - "...feeling bad about that Kindle purchase..."

Actually, feeling much better about it...and my eyes are as well. I didn't say that I regularly use it to browse the web...don't need to...I have a MBP and a Palm Pre for that.

--tayme

@bodypaint

You beat me to it.

I must say that 10" OLED capacitive touch screen may put this type of device on the expensive side, so I ok with LCD for now.

Bodypaint, are you saying it won't sell?

Remember, you're a techie, and techies aren't the majority.

@ tayme just now on twit Andy Ihnatko, who handled the device said he thought the text was easier to read on the iPad vs his Kindle.

Ah.  Here is what Ars says:

"It's tough to gauge the real value of the device on a site like Ars where most folks are technology savvy. For the everyday user, I think you will see a lot more interest."

@Bodypaint, you will be reading a future blog post from Paul on this very site that was created from his iPad....I have no doubt about it.

I actually don't think it's that bad.

It's all one should expect from a 1.0 product.

I think the big deal here is that we're potentially looking at the replacement for OS X and for Macs. I mean, they have a lot of apps for the iPhone OS now too, they have the underpinnings of OS X, they're porting their own apps to it (still, it's a disappointment you have to pay for iWork, but I guess I expect too much; iWork's not that bad an application suite, though), the iPad interface is a bit better than the windowed interface (gives you more space; I still prefer the Chrome OS interface, though), everyone seems to prefer touch now to the mouse (including me), and, most importantly, all the apps are built for touch. So, unlike the standard tablets of today, you don't get tiny buttons or text and the interaction feels much more natural.

Is it ugly? Just as ugly as an iPhone (I personally prefer the look of Nexus One and Android OS).

Is it useful? About as useful as a computer (for the home user, at least), with some pros and cons (but at its price, it's actually more than I'd expect from Apple). I wouldn't use it as an e-book reader, though.

The way Apple's advertising it is a bit strange (people get excited over the most mundane things in the preview), as well as the fact that Apple doesn't bundle a "Finder" app, but I think this thing is a lot more exciting than MacBooks ever were (remember the hyped-up overpriced MacBook Air? That wasn't even anything, really, and still it got a lot of people excited).

@ Ocean

no unfortunately this will likely sell well to the apple zealots.

It isn't a good product though in comparison to other windows based and linux based offerings.

What will interest me more is how this obvious failure will be presented by the journalistic sluts and whores. Will they take the same tact they took with Vista, or will they do as they've done so often in the past and become full defined apple advocates? I'd be willing to bet the latter will be the case. For some reason apple seem to always get a free ride.

I think it's alright, although I think the interface should more like OSX instead of the iPod/iPhone.

It's a bit expensive, especially for WiFi and G3 coverage, but so was the iPhone first came out. I don't see this making a huge impact on the market.

It's a fat iPod touch, end of

Bodypaint,

Are apple zealots the only ones who've bought the iPhone?

Because, that's the same market for the iPad.

P.S. I agree with most of the limitations ("No flash, no handwriting recognition, no OLED, no multitasking, no voice control, no Webcam, no USB ports, ..."), but this was the same way as with the iPhone (which Paul criticized quite a bit, too ,when it came out) -- they'll get it eventually (but it might take just as long as the Clipboard took)...

@ jetsafl

- Microsoft: we have been making square wheels for 8 years.

- Apple: we are making them round, so you can actually use them.

- Microsoft: but we made wheels first.

P.S. I agree with most of the limitations ("No flash, no handwriting recognition, no OLED, no multitasking, no voice control, no Webcam, no USB ports, ..."), but this was the same way as with the iPhone (which Paul criticized quite a bit, too ,when it came out) -- they'll get it eventually (but it might take just as long as the Clipboard took)...

"It isn't a good product though in comparison to other windows based and linux based offerings."

Please tell us why its not.  

The media tore up Vista because Vista was not finished.  There are plenty of internal emails, release because of the "Vista ready" lawsuits that show high up Windows team executives saying Vista sucked more or less when it rolled out.

The iPad is rolling out and it can run every app on the App store day one.  Where having a larger screen would help the iPhone the experience be better the iPad answers that call.  Would you rather watch a movie, read a web page, read a Kindle book, look at a map, view a photo on a iPhone or iPad?

Are there a 140,000 apps tailored for a touch screen interface for a comparable Windows or Linux based tablet?  One that cost $499.  Are they super easy to find and get like the app store?  Easy for Joe Consumer?

Many Windoze fans here dont get Joe Consumer.

@ ocean

I don't agree,

in that form factor (smart phones) the metaphors work, but there are other offerings even in the smart phone space that are better, as capable or fast approaching.. This device isn't a phone, it's an overgrown touch. It should have at the very least been able to multitask, or be able to expand its memory. This is an ill-conceived product, it has failure written all over it generally speaking. IT SURELY ISN'T THE GAME CHANGER IT WAS HYPED TO BE!!!!

Very underwhelming. A supersized ipod touch which won't fit in your pocket.  As for the name sheeeesh!!!

It is nothing more than a big iPod Touch (with WiFi). This device will sell like hot cakes, though. Can you make phone calls on this thing?

Still waiting on my x100e.  It's on backorder, unfortunately.  However, it's a real computer.  The iPad is a wooden clipboard by comparison.

BTW:  Are the guys in the vid just slightly over dramatic, or have they totally not heard of method acting?

Wow..some harsh criticism towards Apple and some its loyal followers. I'm not a rabid Mac fan, but I do appreciate the products that Apple puts out on the market. Granted not all are hits, but they try. Just like any other company.

Ocean,

Most of the people I know who own an iPhone use Windows  - go figure.

@ rr0de74

any many apple suckers uh users don't get efficiency, affordability, choice, and productivity. Being able to listen to music, write a article, and do the necessary research on the web should be EXPECTED performance, not a luxury for people that buy Windows or Linux based tablets. This device in my thinking, is utterly useless.. When the biggest concern is battery power, rather than how productive can customers be with this device, how can they expect a passing grade?

How is that? Pandora is for streaming music...what is the "next level" of that?

Just meant video.

"It's tough to gauge the real value of the device on a site like Ars where most folks are technology savvy. For the everyday user, I think you will see a lot more interest."

Bingo. I don't want one of these things, but I can see that a certain audience will. That's not most of the Mac hardcore, but more casual users for whom the whole Windows/Mac debate sounds SO 20th century. The question is: How big an audience is that?

"it has failure written all over it generally speaking"

Hahahahah lets just see how true that is.

Apple iPad: the first review (www.guardian.co.uk/.../apple-ipad-tablet-first-review): The big problem I had was in trying to understand what the iPad was for: the answer, it seems, is everything. (...) Switched into ebook mode, the way the iPad emulates the printed page feels fairly natural, if not entirely on a par with rival ebook readers such as Amazon's Kindle. The backlit screen doesn't come anywhere near the clarity of electronic ink, which means it's going to prove a lot harder on the eyes of bookworms.

Big fail:  Can't dock it in landscape mode.

Bigger fail:  3G can't be added on to a WiFi version.  They have a special 3G version with a black cap on it which differentiates it like the iPhone does to the iPod Touch.

Biggest fail:  It's a 4:3 aspect screen.  1024x768.  That means iPhone apps designed for the ludicrous 480x320 3:2 aspect screen of the original device don't fit this natively.  That's probably why they told devs to hold off until this launched.

Note to Shiller:  

www.drscholls.com/.../wartremoval.jsp

Bodypaint said:"

@yoshipod

No flash

No handwriting recognition (what these devices were created for).

No OLED

No multitasking

No voice control

No Wireless syncing

No OSX - Just the same limited ipod/iphone OS

No Webcam

No SMS app

No USB ports

No task manager

No removable storage

No decent graphics card

And it has the second biggest bevel of any device and a lousy keyboard.. But.. it's the best web experience ever according to Ayatollah Jobs."

Flash sucks, I for am glad it does not work on my iphone.

Who needs hand writing recognition?  People type much faster than they can write anyways.  

OLED is nice, but not quite mature yet.  Needs to work better outdoors.  

Multitasking &  task manager would be nice, but once again, not really needed for what this is for.  As long as apps launch fast and save states, its something that is ok to deal with.

Voice control on a tablet?  Please you are reaching.

Wireless syncing.  Should not be a problem since you need to plug it in to recharge. With up to 64 GB how often are you syncing anyways?

It is OS X. Just a different API set.  If you want to run a full OS, get a full computer.  The interfaces of each os are tailored to how the device is used.  Simply dumping an OS on a small machine is a terrible idea.  You need to rethink it for how that device will be used.

SMS apps could be added.  Its an app.

USB ports, removable storage, decent graphics card.   It seems the concept of the tablet if completely lost on you. If you need all that, buy a laptop, not a tablet.

"IT SURELY ISN'T THE GAME CHANGER IT WAS HYPED TO BE!!!"

Segway who?

"If you want to run a full OS, get a full computer."

I can.  For the same money.  And with almost none of the limitations that you're defending (excluding OLED and OS X).

Well the iPad certainly got our attention. Unfortunately I lost any interest when I seen the device. It isn't cool enough, powerful enough, or cheap enough to get me to walk around with it in my hands.

I still don't see the purpose of this device personally. I have a desktop for home use. I have a laptop for work. I have an iPhone to do everything else.

If this device replicates some of the stuff the iPhone already does (except for calls) and is almost as portable, why get both? I think Lenovo's hybrid device is actually more exciting and more innovative, but I have absolutely no doubt this one is going to be a huge success -- it's Apple after all.

Only apple can remove years of advancement in computing and refer to it as revolutionary. Multitasking isn't really needed? We don't need to be able to launch more than one application at a time? Let's see, I need a screen grab to place in my iworks document that references the corresponding web site..

Save document in iworks

close application

open browser

navigate to web page (wait a minute, I can't actually load a browser and a screen grab utility..

Close browser

Walk downstairs turn on my computer,

initiate the browser,

navigate to the web page I need

take a screen grab,

email it to myself

leave the computer running, cause God knows I'll need it again..

Walk upstairs,

initiate a browser

load Gmail

save the attachment

close browser

Open document in iworks, place image..

now that was simple, I can't believe I was so productive...

Wow what i dissapointment is like paul said IDUHHH

I want my HP slate!

Grammatical errors up the yin-yang:

"Yet another unbelievable feature: The[sic] price.

With iPad, you get all our latest innovations. And[sic] all our most advanced technologies. In[sic] one of the most revolutionary products we’ve ever created. All[sic] at a price that’s well within reach."

Where is the built-in OS X grammar checker on their web designers systems?

But can you play Crysis on it?

and one more thing...

after I've created said document I have to email it back to myself and load it on my desktop so I can print the silly thing.. cause you guessed it, you can't print from this over hyped, over priced, piece of junk!

www.macpractice.com/.../iphone

The iPad will work perfectly here.

Where's Boot Camp?  I want to be productive.

Courier it is then.

@Bodypaint

There is this thing called copy/cut/paste.  You may have heard of it.

And once again, you fail to understand what a tablet is meant for.

Twit has people coming on right now live, talking about apps that will benefit from the iPad.  Some pilot is talking about current iPhone apps they use now, that will be just that much better with a bigger screen and how a laptop is to cumbersome.

tv.gawker.com/.../cnbc-anchor-says-the-ipad-reminds-me-of-feminine-products

Can't say I didn't tell you so.

www.youtube.com/watch

Waethorn said:

"If you want to run a full OS, get a full computer."

I can.  For the same money.  And with almost none of the limitations that you're defending (excluding OLED and OS X)."

That's fine.  I got no problem with that.  But that is not what these tablets are aimed at.

Its for the person hanging out on their couch surfing and emailing while watching tv, or at a starbucks, or on a plane or bus, etc.  Its not like companies are going to get rid of desktops and replace them with Tablets.

They are not meant to be everything to everyone. That is what so many people are missing.

actually yoshipod you don't get what a tablet is meant for it has no handwriting recognition my math professor uses a HP PC Tablet, and as she is using power point to display all of these math problems she just writes on the screen with the pen, and it works really really good, though I wished she would get Windows 7 on it and get rid of Vista

....and begin the landslide of Apple stock after another disappointing keynote.

>calarez said:

>Wow what i dissapointment is like paul said IDUHHH

>I want my HP slate!

Ditto. Obviously, you and I are looking for a different experience than the iPad will give.

Currently, I have an HP TouchPad running Vista Ultimate. I'm looking for a device that has all the power of Windows 7, in a touch-friendly, voice friendly, small package. I considered a netbook, but the HP Slate is much more to my liking.

Hey yoshi I think you may be missing the point you knuckle head, I said screen grab.. ever do a complete screen grab of a web page? How do you propose to do that with copy/cut/paste? Leave it to an apple fanboy zealot to reinvent what tablets have been used for since 2002!

Remember, this is apple's first tablet, it's the johnny come lately of the tablet kingdom.. If they wanted to reinvent what and how tablets are used everyday, they should have added functionality, not taken it away and then called it revolutionary. If they didn't want to reinvent the tablet space, they should have called it something entirely different..

no matter how you twist it, this is a pile of crap..

@ Waethorn

I just saw a rendered mockup of a dog that can walk itself, a kitchen that'll automatically cook and serve, and a car that will fly you from NYC to Washington is less than 10 minutes.

Wow, you're a sucker for make-believe: Comparing a rendered mockup with something you can actually buy.

You probably also believed all the goodies that Microsoft would throw into Vista, only to be left with <15% of these promised goodies.

"Waethorn said:

....and begin the landslide of Apple stock after another disappointing keynote."

207.98

+2.04 (0.99%)

You mean that landslide?

Name -> lame

design: one big Ipod touch

Why no widescreen ???

I would've liked to see an interface innovative on this device and not a bigger iPod touch type of thing.

Build quality and screen quality seems amazing though.

And Apple has just busted a new Technology sector they hadn't shaken yet: the low-power efficient CPU. I mean look at how fast that chip is pushing thing on that 10" screen and can do that for 10 hrs straight ??? 1 MONTH on sleeping mode !!!??!

Overall I have to agree, nice version 1.0, lots of potential.

@redunion you dont get it either.  The #1 electronic chalkboard used in MANY schools has a iPhone app to control it.  It will work well on the iPad.

@rr0de74 - "just now on twit Andy Ihnatko, who handled the device said he thought the text was easier to read on the iPad vs his Kindle."

I wonder how he would feel after reading several novels or newspapers.

--tayme

redunion1940 said:

"actually yoshipod you don't get what a tablet is meant for it has no handwriting recognition my math professor uses a HP PC Tablet, and as she is using power point to display all of these math problems she just writes on the screen with the pen, and it works really really good, though I wished she would get Windows 7 on it and get rid of Vista"

My bad, I forgot Apples target audience with a Tablet is math professors.  My apologies.

If handwriting recognition is so important why are people not using it to text, write emails, etc. why don't most desktop come with a stylus?

Its a very narrow use, important in some cases, like yours above, or fedex, UPS, where signatures are required, but for consumers, it has little value.  

Smartboard.

WTF is a electronic chalkboard.

I know the original chalkboard works great, the white board works great and the projector with powerpoint works great, and I got to MU so yeah with a journalism school that requires people to buy a MAC and iPhone to be in its college which I think is really wrong.

"Most of the people I know who own an iPhone use Windows"

I can believe that.

yoshipod I would use it if the enviroment was there. I would prefer to be able just to write my emails, and I thank it would be awesome to use in texting/ IMing

so that way you could share images easily without having to either A. open a paint like program to draw it then save and send or B. finding a image on the web saving it then sending it.

What will really be telling is if the iPad outsells Windows tablet computers.  To date that format has not sold well to consumers.  We'll just have to wait and see if the iPad does sell well.

@yoshipod - "Its for the person hanging out on their couch surfing and emailing while watching tv, or at a starbucks, or on a plane or bus, etc."

Damn...that is what Apple told me my Macbook Pro was for! Guess I'd better get in line.

--tayme

"1 MONTH on sleeping mode !!!??!"

Yup, You can't use it for a month and the battery will hold a charge.

--tayme

Ohh and Paul, by overwhelming demand, bring us back some pics of that Ohh soooo sexy Compaq tablet you saw in Vegas and you showed here !! You know the one that looks like a laptop circa 85 and with the Windows start menu on it !!!! :D

Much cleaner looking than that piece of junk.

@Keleko - It will...Jobs has spoken and the sheep will happily follow.

--tayme

"Its for the person hanging out on their couch surfing and emailing while watching tv, or at a starbucks, or on a plane or bus, etc.  Its not like companies are going to get rid of desktops and replace them with Tablets."

Except that I was talking about laptops, not desktops.  The iPad will never replace what people see as a better value - a fully-functional laptop with a full keyboard.  Try typing on a pad, while having it sit on your lap or on an airplane food tray.  You certainly can't do that easily while on a bus, and the keyboard attachment just doesn't work as a portable device.  If it's laying flat on an airplane food tray, it just doesn't work as something you can type on.

Hey yoshi I think you may be missing the point you knuckle head, I said screen grab.. ever do a complete screen grab of a web page? How do you propose to do that with copy/cut/paste? Leave it to an apple fanboy zealot to reinvent what tablets have been used for since 2002!

"Remember, this is apple's first tablet, it's the johnny come lately of the tablet kingdom.. If they wanted to reinvent what and how tablets are used everyday, they should have added functionality, not taken it away and then called it revolutionary. If they didn't want to reinvent the tablet space, they should have called it something entirely different..

no matter how you twist it, this is a pile of crap.."

No, actually, I don't think I have ever done a complete screen grab of a webpage to use in a presentation.  Most web pages are larger then a powerpoint or keynote slide and look terrible when scaled down. I just open the webpage and show it.

Apple did rethink the tablet.  You fail to see that.  Just like they did with the iphone and the ipod before it.

They were not the first to create those devices, nobody claims that. They were the first to make them easy to use and compelling to own.  They don't do everything possible, they don't have every single possible feature, and they are usually missing something that some people find important. What they do have is an easy to use interface that accomplishes most of what the majority of people are looking for in that type of product.

They don't just dump feature after feature into their products that most people don't care about or need. They figure out what is truly important and what the customer really wants to get out of their devices.  Then they make that functionality world class.

That is what makes them revolutionary.  

My problem here is that it goes against the idea of One machine to do everything

Like a home server to be connected to many devises that could be run by Linux, Unix, Mac OSX, iPhone OS, or Windows take your pick.

It runs as your dvr/tv box for cable and or satellite, connected to many panels throughout the house that handle different things like lighting settings, heating and cooling, clocks, alarm clocks, displays for information like weather, cook book info, all from one machine to many screens and devices. For the home.

This tablet of apple would be better if it was more full featured, and should only be used for on the go selling it as a home device goes against my belief in the one machine to run all in the house

But the tablet could be used to hook up to stores, or places as you go through them, providing you with information on it, the ability to quickly apply for a job if need be, shows you what is on sale, the ability to select what you want to buy, then just collect it.

"The iPad will never replace what people see as a better value - a fully-functional laptop with a full keyboard. "

I agree with you completely.

But the tablet is not meant to replace the laptop. Its supposed to be a different device. It only replaces the laptop where the laptop was not really meant to be.

I'd probably rather have a tablet then a laptop when on an airplane.  Smaller form would make it much easier to use.  

What so many are missing, is this device, and tablets in general, serve a  different purpose.  

This thing doesn't even qualifies as a tablet. Go look up the excepted definition of "tablet pc" or "tablet computer".

Some of the biggest reasons it is a FAIL are:

* No handwriting recognition. No matter how many times the Apple Fanboys says no-one uses it, this is an integral part of what a "tablet" is.

* No note-taking abilities using a stylus. Which means you can't use it as endless paper for things you would typically do on a paper-based notepad. Like make technical diagrams, flowcharts, quick hand-written notes, etc.

* You can't install desktop software on it. You are limited to what is available on the App store, and if it isn't there, or Apple hasn't given said app their blessing, you are out of luck.

* No multitasking. And no, Apple's amazing invention called copy/paste doesn't solve the problem.

There just isn't anything you can do with the iPhail that you can't do with a Windows tablet.  Which part of it is supposed to be the "innovative" part?

And about the price: OF COURSE it is going to be cheaper than what people expected. The device is less than what people expected. What did you expect with such a dud?

Yoshi,

You really think that multitasking is a feature that people don't need or want? Wow, you're thoroughly brainwashed. I've never liked apple's prescriptive model in the past, this is an all time low even for them.

Like many have said on this and other blogs, this isn't a bad digital picture frame, but it's pretty expensive and it doesn't have a good stand..

"Multitasking isn't really needed? We don't need to be able to launch more than one application at a time?"

Multitasking isn't needed until Apple decides it is needed, just like tablets aren't needed until Apple decides they are needed.

I bet it has an entirely new boot ROM and is not jailbreakable, like the iPhone.

Is it me or does the iPad sound like an Apple feminine sanitary protection device?

Like this www.youtube.com/watch

I also bet that this may become the coveted gift for spoiled rich kids all over the US.

Multitasking would be nice, but it is not as important on a device like this.

Have you used an iphone before?  No multitasking there, but its not really a big deal to people who use it.

On a full computer, its a deal breaker. On a consumer tablet devices, its a nice to have.

Multitasking requires more RAM which means higher cost to make, more power consumption and less battery life.

You and I may know enough to quit apps when they are not needed, but many others would leave dozens of apps running, reducing performance.

Why do people continue to state that the big wide ugly bezel is so that you don't have to put your fingers on the screen?  The thing IS a TOUCH SCREEN! You HAVE to put your fingers on it!

And to whoever said that typing is faster than writing, sure it is for people who know how to type and have a real keyboard to type on. You wouldn't want to type on this thing because you would actually have to touch it and that is what the huge bezel is there to prevent, remember? Voice recognition? Hardly accurate enough for important things and hardly useful for someone taking notes in a classroom or a meeting.

And how are people supposed to carry this thing around? In a briefcase? In a back pocket of your laptop carry all?

This thing is a big miss. Of course Apple fans will love it. They'll buy anything that has the apple logo on it, no matter what it is.

"Multitasking would be nice, but it is not as important on a device like this."

Nope, not unless Apple had actually delivered it, in which case, it would have been one of the most ballyhooed features.

"Multitasking would be nice, but it is not as important on a device like this.

Have you used an iphone before?  No multitasking there, but its not really a big deal to people who use it."

Perhaps, but I use a Windows Mobile device, and it has mult-tasking built in. Of course, if you've never used a device with one, you aren't bother by what you don't know I guess.

"Multitasking requires more RAM which means higher cost to make, more power consumption and less battery life."

Sorry, but that is plain nonsense. I write multitasking programs all the time.

"You and I may know enough to quit apps when they are not needed, but many others would leave dozens of apps running, reducing performance."

Uh, no. They go into a wait state, just running no-ops when not needed.

Do you think it get to over 300 comments? ;)

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"Why do people continue to state that the big wide ugly bezel is so that you don't have to put your fingers on the screen?  The thing IS a TOUCH SCREEN! You HAVE to put your fingers on it!"

Because unlike the iphone which you can hold in a single hand without covering any part of the screen, you can't do that on the iPad. If it had no bezel you would ALWAYS be covering part of the screen and moving your fingers to adjust your grip could be mistook for a touch gesture.

"And to whoever said that typing is faster than writing, sure it is for people who know how to type and have a real keyboard to type on. You wouldn't want to type on this thing because you would actually have to touch it and that is what the huge bezel is there to prevent, remember?"

You must live in the middle of nowhere.  Every day I see countless people typing away on their tiny keyboards on their iphone or blackberries, or whatever device they have.  Its 2010, people type faster than they write, get over it.

The bezel also works as a wrist wrest when typing while on a table or your lap.

"And how are people supposed to carry this thing around? In a briefcase? In a back pocket of your laptop carry all?"

The same way they would carry around any windows based tablet.  Or do those machines not have this same problem?

"Sorry, but that is plain nonsense. I write multitasking programs all the time."

I must be mistaken then.  When I have multiple programs running at the same time, my computer says that more RAM is being used to keep those programs active.

If computers did not multitask, they would need less RAM.  Why do you think computers get a performance boost when they have more memory?

As Waethorn mentioned 4:3 aspect ration does not cut it, why on earth this thing hasn't got a 16:9 widescreen is beyond me. Watching videos in letterbox format is not a great experience.

"I must be mistaken then.  When I have multiple programs running at the same time, my computer says that more RAM is being used to keep those programs active."

Multitasking doesn't really have anything to do with the amount of RAM being used. Multitasking has to do with allowing each running program to use a slice of the processor, for a specific amount of time.

RAM usage is a function of the number of programs running (there is some extra memory overhead on a multitasking OS simply because the kernal needs to manage the threads, but it isn't that great). On a mobile platform, the OS will manage running programs to keep them within the limit of available memory.

My current Windows Moblie device only has 128 MB - for everything - and it mult-tasks. I see no reason Apple won't update their kernal to do the same, especially when their devices have a lot more available memory.

My 1 year old $400 Vista laptop seems to have more features and has a 320GB hard drive. Yep battery life is less, but I don't need much.

Multitasking will use more RAM.

The OS needs to keep a portion of the application in memory or write it to virtual memory on the hard drive. So the more applications open, the more RAM is used OR the more paging goes on. So there is a performance hit, less so with SSD than standard HD.  

In addition many apps are web based and will likely request data while active.  For example, lets say I keep my email program open and active while I watch a movie.  Every 5 minutes the email app is going to check the server for new mail.  That action takes RAM and power.  Not a big deal, but each one adds up.  When you get 10 apps active, you may see a performance hit, or see your battery life go down.  

"As Waethorn mentioned 4:3 aspect ration does not cut it, why on earth this thing hasn't got a 16:9 widescreen is beyond me. Watching videos in letterbox format is not a great experience."

But standard paper is 8.5x11 which is much closer to 4x3 than 16x9.  So while its not ideal for video, it may be a better resolution for books, magazines and pictures.  Many movies also have a 2.35:1 ratio, so even if the screen was 16x9 you would still see the letterbox.

Unfortunately, there is no ideal aspect ration for a device that is meant to do many varied things.

"Why do people continue to state that the big wide ugly bezel is so that you don't have to put your fingers on the screen?  The thing IS a TOUCH SCREEN! You HAVE to put your fingers on it!"

Is it that hard to understand?  Precisely because its a TOUCH SCREEN, you need a neutral zone, so you can grip it with out activating anything inadvertently.   If it were touch to the very edge then just griping it may fire something up.

rrode and yoshipod, agreed with last two statements. It's too long to see the others though :)

Finally . . . an iPod for the Jolly Green Giant!

Copied it from somewhere else, but it's still funnier than hel

I like apple stuff, but this is a lame device, my netbook runs leopard just fine, why cant apple release a  legal OS X netbook like device, iDoesn't get it

yoshipod, I have a phone that runs Android, which, like all good operating systems, is capable of multitasking easily. When the programs open exceeds available RAM, the OS simply closes one you haven't been using.

e.g. may open Gallery to view some pics > open Maps to check something > open Browser > decide I want to listen to music, open Spotify > switch back to Browser, find an address > switch to Maps to look it up > switch back to Browser

By now Android has probably closed Gallery for me. And apps in the background wait in a sleep state.

arstechnica.com/.../photo-gallery-hands-on-with-the-ipad-and-live-event.ars

Good info there.  The dock/keyboard all in one will be $69.  So iPaul if you went with the $499 option and the keyboard dock it would be $568 and not $1000.  That new math is tough on you old guys.

The non keyboard dock is $39 and it will use ANY BT keyboard so....if all you want to spend is $499....then, that is all you need to spend.

I guess if you decide to get one, they come in 3 sizes...

Thin, Regular and Maxi iPad... Oh well, i guess I will be checking out the Slate!!!

"I bet it has an entirely new boot ROM and is not jailbreakable, like the iPhone."

Ha. I bet it's jailbroken in the first 60 days and that it runs Linux within a 6 months.

I agree that it needs to multitask, and it will along with the iPhone, with iPhone OS 4.0. (Now, that's fair, since Paul keeps talking about how great WinMo 7.0 will be....someday.)

Paul, great post. I love reading the comments by the angry Apple trolls here, defending this piece of trash.

"Thin, Regular and Maxi iPad..."

Isn't there one with wings, too?

--tayme

My Palm Pre multitasks brilliantly...and yes, it is very useful. I am hoping to see a WebOS tablet at some point! But, if Palm were to do that, they'd be copying Apple...right iCabalists?

--tayme

Looks like quite a few developers and many Apple fans are interested in the device.  That'll cause it to spread to the larger market over time.

Win.

First review:

"After just an hour with an iPad, I came away with a preliminary verdict: Despite some flaws, this is one slick device. "

www.washingtonpost.com/.../AR2010012703885.html

@ yoshi and rr0de...

Wow! Never thought that such 'intelligent' Apple fanatics would be such easy marks. ;)

By the way...I remember multitasking on my old 286 running windows 3.1 on 4 meg of RAM. Amazing that Apple can't do it on the iPod touch, the iPhone or the new jumboPod. I guess revolutionary means going backwards in Apple talk.

So - Kindle vs iPad as an eReader - www.engadget.com/.../ipad-or-kindle-will-our-wallets-decide Looks nearly unanimous.

--tayme

This user from Ars made a good point:

*I will admit I share the distaste many have for this device. My major concern is stuff like this will eventually erode the market for PCs -- or at least the market for inexpensive laptop PCs -- and I don't really want a future where more powerful, capable systems become more expensive and harder to find; PCs have gotten so much cheaper in the past 10-15 years and I'd hate to see that get rolled back.*

It seems that people are losing grip on what is actually useful and functionality over design and what looks good.  It might be the "it" thing for a while.  But I can't see it replacing the netbook at all.  It's definitely something else.  

Those to who death of the laptop of netbook are very short sighted.

Can you imagine sitting in an airport lounge actually typing a decent sized email, or chatting on that thing?  And the stupid dock?  What the...?  

I was as excited as anyone about what Apple was about to release, but a giant ipod touch was exactly what I wasn't hoping for.

It seems like most analysts and tech journalists are afraid to point out the truth: the emperor has no clothes on. Apple could have come up with a $500 whiteboard and people would call it innovative. Just like every other device Apple launches, they will end up getting 3-4 years of free publicity from the media while they work out all the kinks.

This isn't the first tablet; it isn't the first eBook reader; it definitely isn't the first device to attempt to be all of those and probably not even the best (no multitasking), but  who will point that out?

Dr. Jackson, you have a great point about Dell mini's and Leopard. Several other netbooks can be Hackintosh's, with more features. I feel so stupid for not thinking about them.

Chuck B, I'll take that bet. I have well over a 1500 posts at the Dev team blog. I'm a pretty well known guy there. I have faith that it will happen, but 3.0 took 6 months to hack. But you may be right because of GeoHot......

What I find the most interesting is that Apple is making their own chips for this thing.  Iphone chip providers can't be too crazy about this......

"This isn't the first tablet; it isn't the first eBook reader; it definitely isn't the first device to attempt to be all of those and probably not even the best (no multitasking), but  who will point that out?"

Every tech blog I've read today.

I don't think consumers will care.  They didn't with the iPhone.

I read that a lot of people will buy it just for this: http://mekentosj.com/papers/

It won't be about the hardware, folks.  It'll be about the apps.

For those of you who obviously don't read the Apple and iPhone-centric blogs, by my calculations on the surveys thus far almost 75% of the feedback on today's announcement is negative!  And this is from the community of existing Apple users!  So those of you who want to bust Paul for the iDud check the scoreboard!  Reality is tough for some of you to stomach that Apple has "stepped in it" for a change.

Hahaha! Has I can see Apple played safe on this one... A big IPod Touch .... It seems to be cool but no inovation nada!

Personnaly I really wait about The Microsoft Courier...

It would be great if the IPad could run Windows 7, isn't it?

"by my calculations on the surveys thus far almost 75% of the feedback on today's announcement is negative! "

You're high.

This post was mentioned on Twitter by freddyfuentes: LOL http://bit.ly/9bZO5W that is a better name for it iDud :-)

@gfryesc1 :

I don't know but as I can read on other blogs, peoples really don't seems to like the new IPad .... Time will tell us if it will be a success or a failure!!

Personnally I think it will be mitigated... I think of a success but not as expected... Micrsoft Courrier will probably blow more than IPad... hmmm... Anyway, the HP Slate seems to be better at first so....

Mossberg agrees with me:

"While all sorts of commentators were focusing on how much Apple’s new $499 iPad tablet computer looks like an oversized iPhone, the key to whether it can be the first multi-function tablet to win wide public acceptance probably lies in whether consumers perceive it as a suitable replacement for a laptop in key scenarios. And that, in my view, depends heavily on the software and services that flow through its handsome little body."

He notes that the iWorks suite is much better than anything you'll get on a iPhone, Windows Mobile device or a Blackberry, as a example.

One thing I do know Paul has gotten a lot of hits

BuyMusic.com kicks iTunes Music Store butt, takes names

So BuyMusic.com is live. Like the excellent iTunes Music Store, it offers digital singles and album for download. The layout of the site is, perhaps, overly similar to iTunes. The similarities end there. BMC offers more songs (300K vs. 200K), better sound (WMA 9 vs. AAC), better prices (singles start at 79 cents vs. 99 cents), much better PC compatibility (it reaches the 97 percent of the world using Windows, not the ~1 percent using OS X), and better device compatibility (slew of devices vs. just a few on iTMS). The much ballyhooed problem with BMC--various DRM-related "limitations"--are not a problem: Most songs have unlimited sharing capabilities, or very reasonable limits (i.e. a limit of 10 CD burns. Oooohhhh.). In other words, iTMS, excellent though it is, is now officially toast. Apple should have supported Windows from Day One. Now, it's too late.

www.internet-nexus.com/2003_07_20_archive.htm

But even with these licensing issues, it's clear that Buymusic.com is going to stomp all over the iTunes Music Store. WMA is the right technology, Windows is the right platform, and Buymusic.com supports a much wider range of PCs and devices than does Apple. And there is just no way for Apple to adequately address that problem.

www.internet-nexus.com/2003_07_27_archive.htm

How will Apple grow?

Geek.com: "I've been pondering Apple's future growth after Apple became debt-free on February 16. While CFO Fred Anderson and Corporate Controller Peter Oppenheimer look to make Apple into a US$10 billion company again, I wonder how they intend to get there with such a small percentage of the computer market. According to Gartner, PC vendors will ship 187 million units in 2004, up almost 14% from 2003. Looking at Apple's CPU sales--around 700,000 to 800,000 units a quarter, or just over three million units for the year--Apple won't gain much ground."

Umm..... they won't gain any ground, actually. If these numbers are true, they will continue to lose ground, as the company has done every year since Steve Jobs took over. Given the best-case for Apple (800,000 units a quarter, or 3.2 million units for the year), Apple will sell just 1.7 percent of all computers in 2004, compared to 1.88 percent for 2003. But that's the best case. It will certainly be lower.

"I'd like to see it take its old 'Think Different' slogan to heart and aggressively move forward to break from the debated 3% marketshare of computers."

There's no debate (indeed, Apple executives are still using the bogus 5 percent figure). Apple's market share is 1.88 percent today, and as your own math showed you, it will be 1.7 percent or lower in 2004. Why is this so hard for Mac advocates to understand? The Mac market is ending.

www.internet-nexus.com/2004_02_29_archive.htm

"WMA is the right technology"

"The Mac market is ending"

 I'm emailing those quotes to Leo.  :)

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@cesjr and everyone else, just go to those links he posted.  Paul needs professional help, and has needed it for a loooooooooooong time.

Brother let go of the hate!!!  It's actually kind of scary.

Rog Andre, Please DO tell us the difference between Mac OS X and the iPhone OS.

You seem to know that the iPhone OS is grossly wanting, compared to Mac OS X, so let's hear it.  

In what ways?

redunion1940:   Your specific programming class requires Windows, so that means that somehow the Mac in general, globally, is a lesser OS?

Your logic needs some help.  You're gonna make a lousy developer.

So this is what all the tech heads have been slobbering for for the last 3 months?  P.T. Barnum had nothing on Steve Jobs, line up and get out your wallets suckers.

I don't usually care all that much about Paul's apple product reports because outside the touch/ipod  I don't use apple products, but I have to agree with him that this think looks rather ugly!  I give apple credit (hardware looks wise); their stuff is usually visually appealing.  Even the Apple crew here has to admit, that like the original Zune, this think is just UGLY.

To be fair, I think tablets are pretty useless, but I'm biased towards the desktop/laptop paradigm.  But, I won't call anythign a failure till some time has passed.  So, we'll see...

So this is what all the tech heads have been slobbering for for the last 3 months?  P.T. Barnum had nothing on Steve Jobs, line up and get out your wallets suckers.

This will probably be reasonably successful with average consumers, who generally care more about ease of use and appearance than actual functionality.

For basic functions like video and browsing it will be fine, but if you want a real computer (in slate form) this thing is useless. The cheapest netbooks have more features (not to mention better specs) than this thing. The lack of multitasking is an especially egregious example of this things inadequacy. All it is is a giant iPod. If Apple had wanted to create a useful device, they would have engineered a touch friendly version of Snow Leopard for the OS.

I am much more interested in HP's slate computer, considering it actually runs a full operating system.

And a slate computer without a stylus is just stupid. As a college student I would love to have a slate-style computer with full stylus support for taking notes. For goodness' sakes, how hard can it be to just include one? You can still have the same finger friendly UI, and people don't have to use the stylus if they don't want. It's really ridiculous how obsessed technology manufacturers have become with avoiding the stylus, even when it clearly reduces functionality.

I was thinking of a new name, maybe:

iTouch Chubby

Oh wait, that didn't come out right...

Or just...

iChubby

@ cesjr

Wow..those posts really show that Paul was a serious nutcase 7 years ago. I'm quite positive Paul is Ballmer's loverboy who has been turned down by him on numerous occasions, yet still feels the urge to please his object of desire.

Those are disturbing posts and shows what I've been telling. People should visit this site for amusement, not for information.

@ Bodypaint

Only apple can remove years of advancement in computing and refer to it as revolutionary.

Yep. This reminds me of the G4 Cube...

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where's robertsjoe now then!?!?!

This from the same guy who said this about Windows ME: "Conclusions

I highly recommend Windows Me to all home users that own hardware that meets my minimum system configuration (see below). It will work well with all of your hardware and software, providing better compatibility than Windows 2000. But Windows Me offers tremendous reliability and stability improvements, making this upgrade truly worthwhile."

And this about Windows Vista: "I'm sure Windows Vista will be a blockbuster release because of its many new features, cool new user interface, and enhanced security. And I'm sure that people who really care about computers will gravitate towards Vista like moths to a flame. It's hard to ignore something this good."

And Apple's iPad is bad? He doesn't review and hasn't even touched it and says it sucks. He REVIEWS these OS bombs and claims they rock.

How any of you take this guy serious is beyond me. I guess some of us don't.

After a 9 hour sleep break, I get on Paul's site and the most amazing thing that I am seeing is the time that several have invested protecting Apple's image, both here and on other sites. Paul spent an hour watching the announcement and writing his blog. People like Logjamming and rr0de74 spent a solid 12 hours on this site bashing Paul and everyone else who stated an opinion that did not line up with Jobs' demands. These must be the same types that blindly followed Obama and believed in the snake oil that he was selling, too! Paul is laughing at you all the way to the bank...oh, and so is Apple! They will gladly take your money for this Big Honkin' iPod. Enjoy!

--tayme

Wow - not only bashing Paul, but obsessively searching the archives and quoting Paul from years past! Hilarious!!!

--tayme

"I read that a lot of people will buy it just for this: mekentosj.com/.../"

Wrong. A lot of people will buy it because it's Apple and the media says it's good. The iPhone sold well even before Apple opened the app store, so there you go.

Paul, after this tripe filled response, I have realized that you actually don't understand technology at all.

The bookmark for this site will finally be deleted, and you will never receive a page view form me again. No more revenue from your overly ad laden site from me.

Maybe if you become a true, objective pundit. Maybe.

"Mossberg agrees with me:"

Actually, Mossberg agrees with Jobs ... on everything.  

It wasn't that hard. I looked google'd "the only positive reviews under Windows ME and Windows VIsta" and there Paul was!

Of course I am kidding, but this guy's credibility with anything technology related is shot. Time and time again. Is it his opinion that it is an iDud, yes. But for a guy who cannot review an OS properly speaks volumes (face it, ME and VISTA were DISASTERS but this guy didn't see the Tornado coming). This proves that.

I should state that even I don't know about this iPad. I have an HP PC and a macbook, 2 ipod touches, an xbox 360 and nintendo wii. Why on earth would I get this thing? I agree in that aspect, but to call it a failure without even seeing one in person??? That's a bit harsh for a guy who played and reviewed two dud's of Windows products positively... I'm just saying... this guy is a crock and this racket he is running here is hilarious.

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Interesting commentary all around.

All I'll say is this: it appears to me that a lot of you guys are only seeing what this thing isn't, and not what it is.

"Actually, Mossberg agrees with Jobs ... on everything."

So does Stephen Fry.  Here's fodder for you tayme:

#2 reason he gives to buy one:

"It is made by Apple."

LOL.  What a shill!  Here's another example of an Apple shill:

www.tomshardware.com/.../Kevin-Smith-gay-apple-mac,9050.html

"it appears to me that a lot of you guys are only seeing what this thing isn't, and not what it is."

Newton 2.0, or oversized iPod touch (or iPhone if you have 3G).  Not much else to say about it.

I'd give HP and others more credit here (and Microsoft) for producing a platform that gives you a lot more capability in the same form factor - not to mention, announcing it first.  FWIW: I'd like to see one of those slate tablet PC's with a remote, so you can control Media Center from afar.  Why didn't Apple think of that?

"Multitasking would be nice, but it is not as important on a device like this."

This is precisely the type of device that needs multitasking.  More screen real estate and more computational power in this thing make it ideal for leaving more than one program open at the same time.  Imagine as a student doing some research and using the highly touted iWork.  So the student (or blogger, etc.) is supposed to exit Safari and then go to iWork, then go back to Safari, all with the associated load and save times?  That will get old fast.

And tayme, you're right on two counts.  The one about Obama and the one about why people insist on spending a LOT of time on this site who obviously have a disdain for Paul.  Why?  It's not like this is the only source for tech news and commentary.

How many people here have watched the video? I have and the user experience is miles from a netbook or PC Tablet. Do I want one?. If I can afford it definitely. I can see it being used a lot for vertical applications more then generic ones though.

The one for $829 will be called the iMaxi-Pad. It will also have wings.

tayme I stand corrected on the Kindle and web browsing. However from what I gather the experience on Kindleworld and its forums is the experience is very limited and often frustrating. I can surf the web with my Wii as well but it's frustrating and incompatible with many sites, so I don't.

ByteFlipper said:

This thing doesn't even qualifies as a tablet. Go look up the excepted (spelling fail!)definition of "tablet pc" or "tablet computer".

When are we going to realize that companies like Apple choose not to accept the current paradigm and that is precisely why they are successful and influential. Why create a tablet computer just like all the ones that have come before it? What's the point? I say re-define a genre when and if you can!

Even if you don't and never will own an iPhone you have probably benefited from it. Apple dragged phone companies(and carriers) into the future with a smartphone that everyday people(like my 60 year old mother) can easily use to it's fullest extent. Nearly every phone manufacturer scrambled to produce a "me too" device and only in the last year have a few products come out that are even close. All the early attempts to copy the iPhone were an stupendous fail. Apple (like every large company in existence for a number of years) has its share of product failures. I for one would rather see a company take a risk with a new product in an attempt to shake things up than release another anonymous device that gets lost in the white noise of the marketplace. The iPad could easily end up being an epic fail. Or a resounding success! More likely it will end up somewhere in the middle filling a niche between the iPod touch and the MacBook line.

I find it to be a fascinating albeit limited device.  I wouldn't mind having one for my schoolwork as I currently use Openoffice/iWork/Google docs now. With the keyboard dock this could make an capable kitchen computer for lightweight Internet/email use.

I hope that future releases of the iPhone OS open up multitasking capabilities as the lack of this feature is a severe limitation in my opinion. I would like to see a forward facing, bezel mounted camera for video/iChat/Google chat sessions. I would like to see an integrated SD card reader. Just like the iPhone 3G improved greatly on that product so the next release of the iPad may integrate features making it a more desirable device.

The interesting part will be is if this is a success just how will the  "Swift Boat" like tactics look on this? Pronouncing it an iDud before its even out, before someone has even tried it? Wow.I'd say I'm surprised but then consider the source.

Bottom line the geeks (I'll lump myself) incorrectly assume their own line of reasoning/thinking//wants/desires when it comes to tech is a representative sample of what the vast consumer market wants. I'll dare say we're not. This is no different then say the Wii which regularly gets bashed around these parts for not doing X. or those that say application doesn't have functions all the way to down to X,Y and Z is useless; all the while must users barely scratch anything other then features A and B. A laundry list of features  for the sake of features does not a great product make

I think the biggest thing that is missing here is this device is not targeted at 99.9% of this site. Sorry to break the news but Apple learned long ago that they were never going to win with the tech heads so why even engage them as a market? Nintendo learned this. Everyone has heard the customer is always right? Sure companies stuck in the 90's still think that. Smarter companies are looking at just who is spending money on their products/services: the ones that spend money? They are the ones you go after. So why does Apple care about the vast majority of this site's opinions? In short they don't, you weren't going to buy this anyways, so  hy do they need you?

Next this isn't about 1st to market anything, this isn't about market share, this isn't about feature X from your long grocery list of wants. This is targeted at the other 99% of the world out there. You know the ones that buy iPods and now iPod Touches/iPhones which despite many here's denial is a success. Why is this relevant to the discussion. Plenty are passing this off as "just a big iPod Touch". If that is the case those prognostications of doom in gloom will look mighty silly.  

This device is what it is: a place between a phone and a laptop, which is filled (currently) with net-books that, "Hey are sure keeping world PC wide market share high" but is becoming more and more of a boat anchor for the OEMs all the time. So a tiny laptop is the best for casually browsing the web simply because it can do everything on the off chance I need to? Sure it is. Keep telling yourself that they will "save" PC industry. All cheap PCs have taught the consumer is that PCs and Windows by extension are cheap or at least have no value. I'm not arguing the relative merits of that, merely point out an inconvenient point.

In closing I have a sneaking suspicion that this will be a success despite the overwhelming comments here. I would say Apple's approach is methodical: the hue and cry over the iphone's missing features were addressed over time and the crowd here simply kept moving the goal posts to prop up their arguments. Therein lies the fundamental difference: Apple tries to make sure that the features they do come out with work. MS on the other hand  tries go with the list approach, bullet pointing all of the 10,000 features crammed into whatever they are selling at the time. Big difference in approaches and a probable cause as to why each camp looks at the iPad from two very different viewpoints.

In closing is Apple always right? Nope. However I will point out that almost every time Paul has said Apple product X will fail he has been wrong. Tayme, buddy I'm going to disagree with you on this one, digging out where Paul has been wrong, often amazingly wrong is pertinent to this discussion.

"MS on the other hand  tries go with the list approach, bullet pointing all of the 10,000 features crammed into whatever they are selling at the time"

Arguably, it's generally Apple that list thousands of "features" to try and sell anything. Especially when selling something like OSX versions.

I have no doubt the ipad (stupid stupid name) will sell, but I seriosuly can't see it becoming as mainstream as the ipod or iphone - this is a niche device, and will probably satisfy that niche very well.

I still see it as a giant ipod touch - and I can't imagine there's a great deal of people wanting that.

Tablet PCs have not sold in remarkable quantities, because they too fill a niche, and are not aimed at the majority of consumers.

"I think the biggest thing that is missing here is this device is not targeted at 99.9% of this site."

Bingo. It's almost a given that no one posting here (including me) has much interest in this thing. I can already do everything the iPad does. All the criticisms here are: (1) Statements that a laptop/netbook will already do what the iPad does, (2)statements about what it does NOT do, like run WIndows.

After thinking about it overnight, I think the biggest strength is that this thing will run 140,000 apps (well, most of them, except the ones that require GPS and/or camera....) and that huge pool of developers will now do some very interesting things.

So, Paul is on record. Now we see what happens in the market...

Apple is going to have a problem that Microsoft has with WM and Google has with Android: you'll have some apps that work only on the iPad's big screen and others that use features specific to the iPhone. Luckily, they are all touchscreen, so it isn't that big a deal, but it's still a problem because not all apps will work at all places, so not all 140,000 apps will work on the iPad.

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forwards to Windows Weekly this week.  Paul is obviously pretty polarised about the iPad, and watching the live stream yesterday, Leo had drunk the Koolaid in a major way - he was all over the story like a rash.  I'll be interested to see if they both stick to their opposed views, or if they get all nice and cuddly in some middle ground :)

That's what I posted in the next story Chuck, Dude's logic about target audience hits the spot. While not for me, my wife may prefer to carry the iPad with a screen size easier for her to view at her age, with a $15/month limited data contract and a smaller phone, rather than her iPhone with a $30 plan. Over 2 to 3 years, that combo would be less expensive and more functional for her.

Or maybe... iThud?

@ShinyNugget

You can tell when someone lost the argument when they start pointing out silly typos.

If the iPhail is incapable of performing the functions of what is known as a "tablet", then don't call it a tablet.

Simple.

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Here's one thing I don't understand, and Apple Fanboys help me out here please...

I read somewhere that Apple has been working on their "tablet" for a few years now, but Jobs was never really happy with the results, so they restarted a few times (or something along those lines). Then finally, Jobs was happy with the design and they decided to go with it.

Given that context, I am scratching my head over what exactly it is in the iPad that he was happy about. Did someone decide that the way to make Jobs happy was to take an iTouch and oversize the screen, and viola, Jobs is happy?

No, seriously, how bad was the earlier prototypes that Jobs panned them, when THIS is what the final version is?

Thanks in advance for clearing that up!

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