Being announced right now in Barcelona. More info soon, but here's some shots of the new UI, which the kiddie gadget blogs will drool over for a week and then move on to The Next Big Thing. Expect more in-depth coverage here, of course. :)
Ugly.
I just read another article on this. Apparently MS will be responsible for developing the "soft" keyboard. Wow, the keyboard is not even done and MS is announcing this. Typical. The article also stated that MS would be focusing more on the consumer. Brilliant, who else would you focus on. Microsoft, Too big to succeed.
content.usatoday.com/.../1
"which the kiddie gadget blogs will drool over for a week and then move on to The Next Big Thing"
Bitter much?
Wow. If MS wants their product to have permanent buzz, they should build a solid game-changing device like Apple did with your beloved iPhone.
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So MS needs to do what Google did with the Nexus -- build their own product that gives its partners something to aim (high) for.
www.windowsphone7series.com
Does MS really think people need an icon above their picture telling them that it is "Me"?
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They just announced an unfinished product yet this web link provides individual and media testimonials about this product. Did they not let Paul use one?
Fisher Price comes to mind.
No flash. No multitasking. Steve Jobs and co. were right again.
This is interesting:
"Partners such as HTC will no longer be able to "re-skin" phones with their own user interfaces. Instead, their energies should be drawn to "hubs," or tiles in the standard Microsoft interface that could then expand into app-like experiences, Woodman said.
Microsoft is also throwing out ActiveSync and Windows Mobile Device Center. You'll now sync with a new version of the Zune software."
pcmagazine.com
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YAWN!!!!!! Whats the point?
'No multitasking. Steve Jobs and co. were right again."
iPhone OS has limited multitasking with stuff like Safari and the music player.
So even Mr. Jobs isn't completely right.
It's a nice bold refresh on Microsoft's part.
It's a shame that it's still 9 or 10 months out though.
To see what it really can do (not just a picture).
windowsteamblog.com/.../windows-phone-7-series-show-and-tell.aspx
Not enough was said yet to really know how this will play out. Nothing was said about multitasking, though the hub focus seems to indicate you're going to be moving back and forth between them. Can it play Pandora while you're working an email? That we don't know, but it may be able to do that.
We also don't know how third party apps will work. The hub concept breaks the current app market. So is a new app a hub, or does it integrate into an existing hub? We just don't know yet.
And, MS has pretty much killed sales of Windows Mobile 6.5 until WM 7 comes out.
Not bad, if you are really into social networking ... Facebook, Twitter. The interface is different and would take a bit of getting used to, but already I prefer it over the UI that the iPhone has. I could get one of these.
No, it cannot play Pandora in the background. Only its own built-in music player.
It has OneNote: www.nytimes.com/.../16phone1.html
www.nytimes.com/.../16phone.html
"More than two years ago, Microsoft started plucking top executives away from companies in a wide variety of industries, hoping they could revitalize its mobile software group. Mr. Peters brought some marketing muscle over from Staples, where he helped to create the popular “Easy Button” campaign.
Other executives arrived from Procter & Gamble and Nike, as Microsoft sought to find a new way of talking to consumers, since about 86 percent of phones running Windows are sold through retail outlets."
Link above.
What no "iDud" during the presentation, you know before its done.
No keyboard yet? Hmm maybe all those rumors of massive in-house fighting and project delays with the Danger and MS people were true?
Seriously ugly. December launch? I am sure Apple and Google will just stop everything and wait for MS to get ready.
WinMo is dead.
Microsoft killed off Mac OS X with Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 is going to be the iPhone killer.
It's hilarious that that comments on the WinSuperSite blog are by % the most negative of any blog I've seen this morning.
You sure have a lot of antagonists Paul.
I for one will get a WP7 device as soon as canadian providers get their head out of their asses and offer one. (Not a one of them, Rogers, Bell or Telus were listed as launch partners in the keynote this morning.)
Now, that's a phone I was waiting for. I have had 2g and 3g iphones, and while the experience was generally good, a few nagging limitations, and the fact that iTunes software was seriously bogging down my windows machines (plus apple's less than "stellar" component reliability (not service support, but reliability) ensured that I will not order iPad or iPhones anymore; now, this is a truly remarkable phone, one that I will wait for about 6 months after its release to buy, so there will be fewer early adopter issues, more choices in hardware and cheaper phones.
And, the UI is well thought out (as opposed to the spartan UI of the iPhone, Palm, Google Android etc.)
Pl. read the following interview if you have time:
(news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10452710-56.html)
Great job, MS!
(Another Windows 7 moment :-) )
A little too early to tell, and still a lot of unanswered questions. Still, at the very minimum, what I think everyone can agree on, is that this is a very big departure from the MS norm, and no one can reasonably call this an iPhone clone.
"It's hilarious that that comments on the WinSuperSite blog are by % the most negative of any blog I've seen this morning."
I thought that too. Even Engadget was getting in to it. And we can't really complain about Paul's reaction, as it has been totally subdued.
WaooWW do you see the demo!!! Great Microsoft the UI is perfect!!! The UI seems to be greater than the Zune UI ... Good Work!!
I will buy this phone for sure!!! The problem is WHEN??
@ EricoF3.
The problem is probably not when, the problem if will it be working. According to this, it won't...
"I received a few minutes with a Windows Phone 7 Series prototype today, and the software looked beautiful but felt very, very early. Tiles responded sluggishly. When I scrolled down a contact list, it scrolled into a great black abyss that only filled with contacts after a few seconds. That wasn't what Microsoft showed in its demo,"
www.pcmag.com/.../0,2817,2359245,00.asp
But if you're interested in when, I can give you a clue: it's three years too late. Much like everything in the history of Micro$oft.
"I will buy this phone for sure!!! The problem is WHEN??"
December at the earliest.
I too may go this route. I do want one with WiFi though.
I'm impressed with the talent MS brought in-house to develop and market it.
Om makes what I think is a good point:
>>Microsoft unveiled the long-awaited upgrade to its venerable mobile operating system this morning, and — so far, at least — the results are pretty impressive.
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But producing a knockout mobile operating system won’t be enough to get back in the game, as Palm can tell you. <<
gigaom.com/.../windows-phone-7
Nice to see all the ms haters (paul haters?) out today. Not so much lemmings as habitualists...
Finished watching a video demo on engadget. Nice UI although I am not hugest fan of the Zune UI (have a Zune 30). Happy to see MS provide a MS centric solution for the consumer space. I am unsure how it will play out in the corp space. Nothing, iphone or android (I use a Droid) seems to knock BB from its corporate throne. On the consumerist front, however, this seems to have great potential against iphone, which is getting very stale but still completely relevant and formidable, and android which is currently the IT thing.
Hopefully MS can keep the buzz up around Windows 7 phone. They always seem to show their hand early and then go dark which kills the buzz.
Good luck MS finally something worthy to add to the MS vision of a connected home....
@Logjamming : Yes but you know the video shown an Alpha version probably... But it is true the UI must be perfectly smooth to be interesting ... As we can see in the Zune and Zune HD the UI is perfectly smooth... So We could leave Microsoft finish the product and it will be perfect ... This is why it will be release Holliday 2010...
I have the felling this will be a huge foot in the ass of Apple... Because, without joking, this UI is much more interesting than the restricting IPhone UI...
I can't help but feel underwhelmed by the Windows Phone 7 Series announcement. Sure, it's a significant departure from previous incarnations of WinMo, but I just find it hard to believe that the average consumer would go for this.
Most of the average Joe's, I suspect, have never seen a Zune UI, don't know if their phone even runs Windows Mobile, so I can't imagine them flocking over to a Windows Phone 7 Series phone based on what was shown today.
Plus, it's 10 months - almost one year away! That's almost an eternity in the tech world. Plenty of time for the inevitable iPhone OS and Android upgrades, whose new features may outshadow Windows Phone 7 Series before it even arrives.
The iPad reactions were interesting in that the negatives were from people who had not touched it, while those that had touched one responded positively.
This morning we have the opposite reaction to the Windows Phone: To not have touched one is to want one, while those who've touched it are disappointed.
@chipwinter: here is someone who have touched it and raves about it (and from an usually Apple friendly site): gizmodo.com/.../windows-phone-7-series-everything-is-different-now.
harakari said: "Plus, it's 10 months - almost one year away! That's almost an eternity in the tech world. Plenty of time for the inevitable iPhone OS and Android upgrades, whose new features may outshadow Windows Phone 7 Series before it even arrives."
Not 10 month because to be under the trees for holiday it means WinMo7 phone will be available in november 2010 so near 8 months from now.
Also, this it is true 8 month it is long in thechno but the gap is simply too far for others... Apple and Google cannot in 8 month change their designs and paradigms and develop a new UI experience that will be up to the Microsoft Win Mo 7 User experience... This is just not possible...
"The iPad reactions were interesting in that the negatives were from people who had not touched it, while those that had touched one responded positively."
Funny, but you could say the same thing about Windows Vista, and then 7.
"This morning we have the opposite reaction to the Windows Phone: To not have touched one is to want one, while those who've touched it are disappointed."
....except that bloggers that HAVE touched Windows Phone 7 with a hands-on review are raveing about it.
Getting that pre-launch hype out early seems to almost all but promise a winner nowadays.
Two things I'm interested in:
a) Is it still the IT workhorse phone? ie. does it have Remote Desktop Connection included?
b) This is called a consumer phone, but when will we hear about business phones that would run in a managed IT environment? How do you get server certificates on this guy, through Zune software on business desktops?? What's the deal with manageability of the Zune software? Or will there be an alternate way for users to transfer media and get linked up with Exchange? (On SBS 2008, there's a dedicated desktop app for transferring the server certificate to a Windows Mobile phone, but you need to have the WMDC software and driver installed)
c) Podcasts, or more generally, RSS feeds. I love RSS feeds on my mobile phone. Why? Because the format is suited to any size screen by default - because there's no formatting to get in the way. They need to have a good RSS client that also integrates podcast content (ie. audio and video attachments to RSS feeds). I don't like the idea of having to sync podcast content as separate audio and video files via the desktop. Podcasts are perfectly suited to be synced OTA.
....I might've asked before, but do other phones refresh podcast media OTA?
From the link that Ocean provided (thanks for that), I would actually consider getting a Windows Mobile 7 phone. I think it looks pretty cool. Even if the blue icons look a bit ugly.
Interesting idea, and I always like to see companies chart their own path and not just follow the leader hoping for 2nd place.
BUT, MS does have quite a mountain to climb with this. They are asking people to forget everything they think they know about what a smart phone should be, and adopt a new "Data Centric" instead of "App Centric" philosophy. That is going to take some hard work for MS.
Best of Luck.
I love Pauls headline:
"Microsoft drops some shock and awe on the smart phone industry with a surprisingly strong Windows Phone 7 Series announcement. "
www.winsupersite.com/.../wp7_preview.asp
The thing is almost a year away, an eternity since the mobile phone/computer business is evolving so rapidly.
iPhone OS 4.0 will come out long before then, much will happen with Android, and then....finally, Microsoft may arrive very late to the party with an entry that can struggle for 3rd place, much as the Zune has in the mp3 world.
This won't help, "Remember what I said earlier about Windows Mobile being dead? So are all the apps. They won't work on WP7"
Paul will give us a long (really long, I'm sure) series of breathless "previews" for the next 9 months, and then we can finally see what the device is like.
@dallasmay:
I second your thoughts about a data centric approach and its challenges.
The more I think about WP7, I see that Microsoft might have a game changer here: Wireless syncing, a useful home screen, concept of hubs and live tiles, excellent gaming opportunities, good media system, one note on the mobile, various hardware choices that have a high bar for LCD (least common denominator)... all these make the current phones look plain. Add to this the inevitable Netflix streaming and other apps currently banned on the competitor's products because they pose a threat to their revenue, apps and third party games that will flood the WP7 marketplace that will take the USP of the iPhone, and the scales are heavily tilted in WP7's favor.
Just got to give this a bit of time to mature and flourish, get rid of early adopter difficulties, better marketing... this, I think, will be the phone to have.
-This coming from a guy who had bought multiple iPods, iPhones and Macs, (and unfortunately, Apple TV) :-)
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"Just got to give this a bit of time to mature and flourish, get rid of early adopter difficulties, better marketing"
Soooo sometime late in 2011 since the first Windows 7 Phones wont be out until the end of 2010?
Yeah like the competitors are sitting still doing nothing.
Netflix is in trouble if you ask me. Their suppliers are building their own online services.
www.engadget.com/.../disney-renegotiating-starz-deal-might-pull-movies-from-netflix
"iPhone OS 4.0 will come out long before then, much will happen with Android, and then....finally, Microsoft may arrive very late to the party with an entry that can struggle for 3rd place, much as the Zune has in the mp3 world. "
I'm not sure we should use the past as a guide to the future for MS here. They've got a lot of different talent in-house this time around.
"Apple's biggest blunder with the iPad, perhaps, is that the device wasn't available for sale immediately. They could have sold millions on the first day"
community.winsupersite.com/.../ipad-the-morning-after.aspx
Oh the irony.
I will certainly be dropping my iphone for a win7 phone. So sick of itunes on windows that is just a slug of program and music can be purchased and is currently from other sources other than Apple
"I'm not sure we should use the past as a guide to the future for MS here. They've got a lot of different talent in-house this time around."
Really???
www.mobilecrunch.com/.../microsofts-project-pink-might-be-dead-in-the-water
www.appleinsider.com/.../exclusive_pink_danger_leaks_from_microsofts_windows_phone.html
Reading those links plus the fact that there is no software keyboard yet, and the PC mag review said it was "software looked beautiful but felt very, very early. Tiles responded sluggishly. When I scrolled down a contact list, it scrolled into a great black abyss that only filled with contacts after a few seconds." and its 10 months away says to me this was a press event for a trouble project that is WAY late, and wont be done for almost another year (if it does not slip like most MS products).
hmm, let's see if I can put this in Paul-speak. Here goes: "It's just not interesting. Sorry. Apple's won the mobile space. Get over it."
that sounds pretty close to something he'd say about non-Microsoft technology.
"Really???"
Yes.
>>More than two years ago, Microsoft started plucking top executives away from companies in a wide variety of industries, hoping they could revitalize its mobile software group.<<
MS is much tighter these days with release schedules, so it 99% won't slip. That's a common and correct summation of where MS used to be, but not anymore. The tight integration that they are playing up with carriers and hardware partners would also lead me to believe that we will see handsets available in multiple markets within Q4.
I'm not sure how PC Mag missed the keyboard, since I saw it on display in the video MS had made available online. It of course is very early software, hence the reason that it isn't coming out until Q4. If it was totally ready, the release date would be closer to MIX.
The comparisons to Palm are not really that similar. WebOS was released with one handset in the US on the bottom tier Sprint, and that remained for nearly a year. They have still been slow to grow. The lack of a complete SDK has also hurt Palm, and while we will have to wait till MIX, I don't think that will be the case with MS.
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Hmm....some of this interesting UI work looks suspiciously familiar:
mms://msvcatalog-3.wmod.llnwd.net/a2249/e1/ft/share0/db2f/0/a_Glimpse_Ahead_3000k.wmv
Does that mean that Metro will make it's way into day-to-day computing tasks via Windows and Office?
Is this what the guy was talking about when he said that " 'Windows.next' would change how we interact with a computer" ?
Hmm....2019 looks closer than ever.
To abandon its previous OS and start afresh - that's sounds like something Apple would do. While Windows Phone doesn't look anything like the iPhone, Microsoft is starting to become a little more Apple like.
"To abandon its previous OS and start afresh"
I don't think you can really use that term. Windows Mobile 6.5.x will still be around for a while, and they aren't abandoning the developer technologies that they already have on Windows Mobile - ie. .Net, SQL, and AJAX. What's happening is that they'll be moving a lot of that into Silverlight so that applications can be ported to the PC easily. They've been getting developers to use .Net for years now.
The comments here today remind me of something but it took me a while to figure it out. It turns out that's because it was a while ago. About 15 years.
On August 24, 1995 Apple drove billboard trucks around Microsoft campus during the Windows 95 launch that said, "C:\ONGRTLNS.W95"
As I recall, at the time Apple had about 20% of the global personal computer market. They now brag about how they're growing so fast that sometime soon they'll be back to 4%.
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On an earlier note, back in the 1970s, Data General published the following ad:
They Say IBM's Entry Into Minicomputers Will Legitimatize The Market.
The Bastards Say, Welcome.
So, anybody here buy a Data General computer lately?
Just another random thought about hubris and whistling past graveyards...
@Ocean....
">>More than two years ago, Microsoft started plucking top executives away from companies in a wide variety of industries, hoping they could revitalize its mobile software group.<<"
Yeah really..
"Much of the Danger/Sidekick team has left or been fired since the 2008 acquisition. According to our source, there is “no braintrust that understands how to build a product” left on the Pink team."
"Amongst remaining employees, dissent is high. Much of the team uses iPhones around the office, or their old Sidekick handsets. Employees “hate the product”
"At this point, the project is roughly 2 years behind schedule."
@rr0de74 - At least twice today you have said that there is not a SW keyboard. As usual, you are an idiot!
See 1:14 of www.engadget.com/.../windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions
--tayme
$10 says MIX10 will introduce a new version of Expression Studio.
@tayme I stated it so you would post about my post......because that is all you do.....predictable idiot???
How is your job at TMZ/Fox News working out?
To answer your question seriously, I read a link posted here (#2) that said MS is going to take more control, the example being that they are going to create/control the software keyboard and not let, say HTC or whomever change it.
From another review I read that its not fully functional yet, as in NOT DONE. No worries though they have 10 months to finish it.
@rr0de74 - "I stated it so you would post about my post"
Oh, you mean like you did in your first post. It was about Paul...not the subject at hand. Nice job out of you coming clean about your troll status on this site. It is telling of what your real life must be like.
FWIW, my comment was just pointing out the obvious...that there is a SW keyboard and 10 seconds of research would have shown you the same. But of course, you knew that and were afraid that it would have taken away one of your troll attempts.
Regarding the phone, watching the Engadget video that I linked to above, it appears that the tiles and the screen in general is too sensitive to touch at this point. The guy kept engaging things accidentally while trying to scroll. But this is just an Alpha version, so time will tell. I'll stick with WebOS for right now, as it is being improved upon with each minor release. The 1.4 update should be out soon and adds a lot of great things.
"@tayme I stated it so you would post about my post......because that is all you do.....predictable idiot???
How is your job at TMZ/Fox News working out?"
Tayme's just more vocal about his distaste toward certain users than others. He's not really on any side, so to speak.
That's my view at least. Personally, I think this all looks nice. All in all, it raises the bar for the competition.
How will the other sides retaliate? What sort of changes and improvements will we see from all sides over time?
That's what intrigues me.
"NOT DONE" is completely different than "the fact that there is no software keyboard yet". You are a p!ss poor troll!
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I think it looks ok, anything is better than winmob 6x right now. I have 6.5.3 and android on my att tilt, android gets about 95 % use, syncing with zune software will be awesome
What is there to like? winmob 6x sucks ass
NoNameAtAll is right. I think that those on this site and others who are brand loyalists have got to be feeble minded simpletons. Otherwise, they would broaden their selection process in order to find what really meets their needs instead of buying whatever the company of choice puts out. There are several on each side that regularly post on Paul's sites.
I'm kind of interested in the new Bug Labs stuff coming out. I'd like to see a component shrink. Then I'd like to see someone take the base, locator, camera, upcoming 3G module, and screen. Turn the thing into one big wearable life cam that uploads photos and video to the web (with GPS location info) and gives map and status feedback via the screen. The BugBase already does hardware MPEG-4 encryption, so video isn't a problem, and having it auto-upload everything would be pretty neat. A bit of a life documentary experiment that you don't have to flip on a computer or manually take shots with. Make the device smaller and lighter so you can just wear it around your neck and record.
"they would broaden their selection process in order to find what really meets their needs instead of buying whatever the company of choice puts out"
I choose what works well together, and I won't over pay for Apple crap, especially considering it doesn't work with 90+% of the rest of the computing industry. What I want is a good ecosystem that offers choice. That option is what Microsoft provides. However, I don't have an Xbox. I have a Zune, but honestly, I've been putting off re-ripping my CD collection, that the Zune has been collecting dust as of late. I don't have an actively-used MP3 player right now, but I do like the Zune interface (on both the device, and the PC). iTunes is just garbage compared to Zune software on Windows. iTunes is a) a spreadsheet for music, b) has a completely disjointed CoverFlow element which totally doesn't fit (as old as it is, Musicmatch Jukebox at least had a cohesive UI), and c) bugs up the yin yang. Aside from using an iPod on Windows, why would anybody choose to use the iTunes software on Windows? You've got the Zune software, and the granddaddy Windows Media Player (which is pretty good in version 11 and 12).
Then there's Apple's attitude. Apple apologists wonder why they don't have more followers when they consider Windows users 2nd-class citizens in their own market. What? Is *** Cheney an Apple shareholder?
Then there's Google. The ad company. What? You mean you didn't know? Scratch that. They're the "no overhead" company. You know - make their users give them everything for free so they can turn around and sell it.
Sorry, tayme, but there's a reason why people choose companies, and it's not always just because of the products. More often than not, it's the politics of the vendor that sells people on them. You can buy an XYZ widget from anybody, but if the vendor is going to screw you silly, what motivates you to buy it from them?
Alpha version is right. It makes you wonder if they have been working on this for 2 years why they still need 10 more months????
Its not like MS is new to the Phone OS world, they have more experience that Apple and Google combined. Add to that everyone under the sun has been asking, begging predicting they should use the Zune OS which is not new any more either. It makes it seem like they had this massive fight between the old WinMO group and all of that "new" talent (mostly gone now) brought in from Danger and other places and finally some said lets go this route (Zune route) like 3 months ago (before we have ZERO chance of ever coming back) and today we see the fruits of morphing the Zune OS after 60 days and that is why it needs 10 more months.
Maybe what Marry Jo said on the POD cast about the bitter ladder climbing inside of MS is correct.
@rrode:
You're kidding right? Bringing Danger into the fold? They might as well just give away the Windows source code at the same time.
(Have you even used a Sidekick?)
Anyway, nobody believes anything you say anymore.
@MikeGalos great comment lol
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At $10 per license, imagine the revenue Microsoft will generate if they sell 20 million next year ...
"Anyway, nobody believes anything you say anymore"
LOL, like I care, and as if anyone cares what either say. I take that back if you are a fan of McDonalds or Arby's then maybe they care what you say. Whatever I can do to make this posting section of this blog more of a joke than it already is.
My point is simple really. Microsoft is a software, company one of the biggest. They have made smartphone OS'es for a while now, (longer than Palm, Apple and Google) its now new to them. They bought Danger, (yes I think the side kick was lame) and by doing so added more talent to the pool. Logically you would think that MS would be at the top of innovation heap when it came smartphone OS'es with all of that experience and large talent pool.
Yet Apple, Google, and even Palm have surpassed MS in this area. I am not surprised by Palm, the handheld OS has been their deal for a long time, but Apple which is primarily a hardware company and Google which is primarily a search software company/beta whatever company have handed MS their *** in this area. Heck even HTC has better interfaces for WinMo phones than MS does. Its sad the the best WinMO phones are only good because of HTC's wrapper.
If they had dropped Windows Phone 7 today, 99% finished with actual hardware ready to ship in the next 30 days then I would have said they were back in the game. Had they had a unified app store (Zune and this OS, maybe even WinMo), and full on Live Mail, Contact and Calendar sync (think google/mobileme) for free ready for this new Phone OS, I would have thought really back in the game.
However we got a OS that is what as good as Android and iPhone OS today, maybe slightly better than the current versions of those in some areas? That you wont be able to buy for 10 months? Do we know about apps, if older WinMo apps will work? Do we know if there will be min hardware specs or will it be like the WinMo days where where the carrier could pair the OS with underpowered hardware? We dont know a lot really, and wont for some time.
"They now brag about how they're growing so fast that sometime soon they'll be back to 4%."
You don't have a link for that because it is flat out untrue.
"Apple crap, especially considering it doesn't work with 90+% of the rest of the computing industry. "
Lies.
""Apple crap, especially considering it doesn't work with 90+% of the rest of the computing industry. "
Total lie. Unless you just are clueless, which is quite possible. Besides not running some Windows only apps (two way street really), what cant OS X do that Windows can do? Its UNIX with a GUI. UNIX works just fine with 90+% of the computing industry.
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I do like the minimalist design from an artistic view, but for usability. Nope, sorry.
If you can't immediately see what is happening on a screen and be ready to jump in you are just showing off flash (which of course this device doesn't run).
A good example of how MS UX teams don't quite get it...
The lock screen.
On an iPhone you have to swipe your finger horizontally across the screen. An action that is difficult to do unless you intend to, ie; placing your phone in a pocket. On the WinMo7 phone you swipe vertically. So you have to make sure the phone is in sleep mode or you might unlock the phone as you put it in your pocket and then you can press any of the tiles.
It truly remains to be seen how good the device is but it is very interesting that this device has many of the shortcomings of extant Apple devices but now those aren't so much shortcomings after all.
@Mike Galos
In Scobleizer's Steve Job's is not an idiot post,
scobleizer.com/.../steve-jobs-is-not-an-idiot
you asked me....
"So, define "next generation" and we can talk. It looks to me like Apple has a very, very long way to go."
In case it's not clear, Windows Phones 7 series is the "next generation" I was referring to. Of course, that was over two years ago. iPhone OS 4.0, and new hardware to run, it will be released this summer. The question is, can Microsoft catch up?
It seems that it's actually Microsoft that has "very, very long way to go."
Given there were essentially no details announced regarding the SDK (other than one exists), it should be interesting to see what kind of "developer story" Microsoft has in store next month at mix.
My guess is apps will be built using Silverlight, rather than a version of WPF.
As for the user interface, I like the Zune-like 7 series data-driven design. This style can difficult to get right from design perspective, and it looks like Microsoft pulled it off. The question is, can third-party developers pull it off as well? Not only will developers need to move to an entirely new development environment (Silverlight), they'll need to move to a completely chromeless UI at the same time.
Gotta give Microsoft credit: it's a gutsy move. And it's likely the only move that can keep them in the game. The question is, will it pay off?
Having nothing but data to fill the screen with can be a serious design problem. Unless third-party developers can make both leaps at once, the "seamless" user experience, which appears to be Microsoft's key point of differentiation in Series 7, won't be that seamless after all.
As such, it seems Microsoft has bet the farm that third party developers are not only programmers but top-notch graphic designers as well.
However, if history is any indication, Microsoft will need to kick out the visually challenged with an iron foot to prevent things from getting very ugly, very quickly.
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Mike Galos, the internet's jerk.
My dears...
There's no proof that windows mobiel 7 series is not multitasking. Where exactly did you get this statement.
Infact it's not like that.
Flash support will be there for the launch because MS is in talks with Adobe for that.
So, still you want to stick with ANCIENT UIs like android and iphones os? Really?
So you are not getting what a smartphone is in 2010.
"The live tiles are deeply customizable, of course, and provide information without having to dive into individual applications."
Wow. Microsoft has figured out how to organize applications info folders.
Innovative.
"Flash support will be there for the launch because MS is in talks with Adobe for that."
With 10 months to go I cant see why not??
So will Paul post a "the morning after" post where he will state that the phones should have been ready for sale immediately or people will lose interest?
As the iWinsupersite blog burns!!!
Mike,
Yes, I recall the Data General ad. I also recommend "Soul of a New Machine" to those who haven't read it (which may be nearly everyone here other and than you and me, it's an old book.).
However, IBM had less to do with the demise of DG than other things; I'd argue that the DEC VAX is what did in DG. That, and the overall pressure on "mini" computers as "micro" computers grew up from the bottom. Once upon a time, a "VAX on your desk" was the dream of every scientist I knew, and that was achieved circa 1986-88, for me with the first 68020/68881 Macs.
Yes, Apple (Gassee and Scully) blew away marketshare and a commanding lead. They were idiots and nearly destroyed Apple. Be glad now they didn't manage that; Microsoft now has to compete with the iPhone!
However, the more recent example, that I'M reminded of is the now-hilarious mocking that Steve Ballmer did of the iPhone. "I like our strategy, I like it a lot". Yes, he liked it so much, that yesterday he flushed it----10 years of WinMo work---down the toilet.
So, yes, things can change a lot, and sometimes quickly. At this point, we have an unreleased iPad, an unknown iPhone OS 4.0, an unknown 4G iPhone, unknown developments in Android, and the still undefined hardware and software for Windows Phones.
Given all that is about to happen, Paul's knee jerk dismissal of the iPad is as silly as his breathless anticipation of the WIndows Phone, except of course that he makes his living from the Microsoft products . Let's just see what happens; it will be an interesting year.
