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Zeldman Just Doesn't Get It On IE 9

Respected web developer/CSS guru Jeffrey Zeldman surprised me, and I suspect others, with a bizarre and clueless take on the Internet Explorer 9 Platform Preview announcement. If I'm reading this correctly, Microsoft was "bragging" during the IE part of the keynote (absolutely not true). And the world should standardize on WebKit. As if there is a single thing called WebKit. (The truth, sadly, is that WebKit-based browsers all render things differently, and this is even worse on the mobile web.)

Weird.

The world has moved to web standards, and Microsoft knows it must at least try to catch up.

Microsoft’s marketing department wants the public to believe that IE and Windows are profoundly innovative. Thus efforts to catch up to the typographic legibility and beauty of Mac OS X and Webkit browsers are presented, in Dean Hachamovitch’s blog post, as leading-edge innovations. Don’t get me wrong: these improvements are desirable, and Direct2D may be great. I’m not challenging the quality of the hardware and software improvements; I’m pointing out the enforced bragging, which is mandated from on high, and which flies in the face of the humble stance other high-level divisions in Microsoft would like to enforce in the wake of the company’s European drubbing and the dents Apple and Google have made on its monopoly and invulnerability.

In short, the tone of these announcements has not changed, even though the times have.

I'm sorry. I just don't buy that.

Microsoft’s refusal to switch to Webkit gives Apple and Google a competitive advantage, and that is good because a web in which one browser has a monopoly stifles standards and innovation alike.

I also don't buy that. Quite the opposite, in fact. Do we all so quickly forget the calls from a few years ago for Microsoft to shift to Firefox's Gecko renderer?

And as Ed Bott just pointed out to me: Zeldman doesn't even use the word "Firefox" once in this post. Also weird. Is it only the shiny new browsers that matter now? In Zeldman's insular world, apparently so.

Comments

 

gavers said:

Wait, did he say (to paraphrase) that Microsoft should use WebKit, like everyone else, and that one single answer is a bad thing?

March 16, 2010 2:54 PM
 

MrDiSante said:

Not to be an ass, but Paul, I distinctly remember you arguing that Microsoft should switch to WebKit because all of its innovations in IE8 had been in UI as opposed to rendering speed. I know that after the demo of IE9 it's a different story, but don't you think that you're being hard on the guy given that you said the same thing recently?

March 16, 2010 3:13 PM
 

Zeldman Just Doesn’t Get It On IE 9 | The Software Nook said:

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March 16, 2010 4:16 PM
 

gfryesc1 said:

meh, what have you ever done but complain, thurrott.  I think I'll believe the CSS guru's opinion more than a pair of guys that have a financial stake in microsoft's success [you and Bott]

March 16, 2010 6:47 PM
 

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March 16, 2010 6:55 PM
 

tayme said:

gfryesc1 - The biases of Paul and Ed can at least be explained by what your paranoid mind calls "a financial stake". Your obsession, on the other hand, is just strange. You should seek help, before you snap any more than you already have. Geez!

--tayme

March 16, 2010 7:20 PM
 

ModernDislocation said:

So, I read the Zeldman post and it is about how Microsoft conducts itself as a company and clearly not a critique of IE9. In fact he is largely positive about the improvements of IE9. Seems like Paul is trying to make controversy where there is none. Maybe he is a little put out about being at MiX vs SXSWi?

March 16, 2010 7:46 PM
 

Seriously Zeldman, how can you get IE 9 so badly? « Pacoup.com said:

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March 16, 2010 9:51 PM
 

Internet Explorer Nein! • deanjrobinson.com said:

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March 17, 2010 5:36 AM
 

Logjamming said:

Microsoft just dropped early adopters. Again.

gizmodo.com/.../zune-hd2-will-be-like-ipod-touch-for-windows-phone-7-read-apps-also-zune-hd-is-for-suckers

"Sorry, everybody who bought a Zune HD! You screwed up. It won't be a part of the XNA Game Studio 4.0 party—meaning it won't play those new mobile Xbox Live games for Windows Phone 7—unlike the Zune HD2.

It's through MIcrosoft's XNA Game Studio 4.0 that developers get access to the Xbox Live goodness, using Gamer Services APIs. And that's not in the cards for the plain old Zune HD, according to Microsoft's Klucher:

"Development for the Zune and Zune HD will continue to exist in XNA Game Studio 3.1, however, in XNA Game Studio 4.0, we're encouraging you to migrate your games over to the Windows Phone 7 Series platform."

That's where the Zune HD2 comes in, which Mary Jo Foley hears is in the pipe, and "will be similar to an iPod Touch," and could ship as early as this year. In other words, it'll presumably be a part of that "Windows Phone 7 Series platform" and run Windows Phone 7 apps.

Which is what Microsoft will need—as many devices as possible running WP7 apps to give the platform a running start, and a wide base of them that don't require carrier contracts isn't a bad idea. Like Steve Jobs once supposedly referred to the iPod touch as "training wheels for the iPhone," devices running around with Xbox Live games and Zune music, getting people hooked on the platform early, the people who aren't quite ready for a full phone (though maybe that's where the mysterious Project Pink comes in), is almost a necessity, really.

But, uh, everybody who already bought a Zune HD, especially in the past month. Um, yeah. Sorry, but we told you this could happen. [ZDNet]"

Waiting for Paul to give this a positive Microsoft-twist. Game on, Mr Selective Argument!

March 17, 2010 6:08 AM
 

Keleko said:

All 3 people that own the Zune HD will be upset, I'm sure.

March 17, 2010 8:20 AM
 

fishertj721 said:

It's hard to call it "abandoning" when the zune HD only had 10 games anyways.  

For  me personally, I just got one in December, and unless they stop allowing me to put music on it, explain to me how my life will change?  They haven't added a game in months to their "app" store for it.

Ugrading sure would be nice, but I'd rather just get a WinPho 7 and keeping my HD for music specific.  If I'd been looking for an app device, I'd have gotten an I-Pod Touch to begin with.

March 17, 2010 11:34 AM
 

fishertj721 said:

Maybe I should rephrase my point.  Microsoft Abandoned app development on the Zune HD from the start.

March 17, 2010 11:59 AM
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