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&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13599" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>MobileTechOnline &amp;raquo; re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/12/the-great-windows-collapse-of-2011.aspx#13337</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:25:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:13337</guid><dc:creator>MobileTechOnline » re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Pingback from &amp;nbsp;MobileTechOnline &amp;amp;raquo; re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13336" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/12/the-great-windows-collapse-of-2011.aspx#13318</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:07:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:13318</guid><dc:creator>mjw149</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Here's my rebuttal:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;Why was iPhone such a better execution years after Windows Mobile was released?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Why is Vista so incompatible with XP games (for example) when there is so much backwards compatibility built in?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Why are there so many redundancies, like media players, for example?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think Gartner's point is not so much about Windows' popularity, which is unchallenged, but that Windows as a development project is in disarray. &amp;nbsp;History backs him up. &amp;nbsp;The Windows NT kernel is fine and adaptable and performs nicely, but their process for putting Vista on top of it was clearly troubled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I've seen 3 separate issues addressed in these blogs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Windows as a platform -&amp;gt; popular and not collapsing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Windows as a business -&amp;gt; profitable and not soon collapsing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Windows as a development project -&amp;gt; a complete mess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I think that's what Gartner was addressing and I think they're right about that one. &amp;nbsp;It's not just about corporate focus, which is certainly drifting from their core, it's about Windows itself being a mess to develop for. &amp;nbsp;Everything goes in cycles and Windows is in its baroque, overweight, sequined bellbottoms, Huge Tail Fins and Chrome phase of life. &amp;nbsp;They may have hit a barrier that no one has hit before in terms of size of code+code complexity+business complexity+sheer numbers of employees and clients and partners involved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13318" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/12/the-great-windows-collapse-of-2011.aspx#13115</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:16:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:13115</guid><dc:creator>Snakedoctor1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;XP runs like a bat out of hell in VMware Fusion as well. &amp;nbsp;I run a 512meg, single proc, XP VM for my home Windows needs (Visio 2007). &amp;nbsp;It will boot up in 20 seconds or less. &amp;nbsp;I give it its own &amp;quot;space&amp;quot; full screen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My Vista VM is a bloated PIG with Fusion and that is with 1gig and Vista Business, stripped down. &amp;nbsp;Luckily I only use it to help family members that are luck enough to have Vista:)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13091" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/12/the-great-windows-collapse-of-2011.aspx#13079</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:42:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:13079</guid><dc:creator>timiteh</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Virtualization is indeed a great solution for backwards compatibility. In fact, Microsoft's recent advances in this market suggest that the company can start moving much more quickly when it comes to dropping legacy technologies one they get a Hyper-V derivative built into the client OS.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope that they will go this way but i somehow doubt that it will happen with Windows 7.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps with Windows 8 that i hope will be a major upgrade of Windows with significant improvements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;One thing I will say is this: I've been doing a lot of testing lately with XP and other Windows versions, and for whatever its worth, XP runs like a bat out of you know what under Virtual PC on Windows Vista.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A funny thing is that i have several XP virtual machines that run faster than the physical machine on which they are executed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus XP alone is quite fast though it become quickly bloated once one install antivirus and other security software.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;And Virtual PC isn't exactly the fastest solution around. This suggests that a better virtualization solution, coupled with something that is essentially XP, could provide Windows 7 (or whatever) with a best of both worlds type scenario. Certainly, people are speculating along these lines. I think it makes sense.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed and if the XP which is running in the virtualisation layer doesn't require bloated security software,then legacy software could run at a great speed and possibly faster than native applications.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13066" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Great Windows Collapse of 2011</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/12/the-great-windows-collapse-of-2011.aspx#13059</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:37:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:13059</guid><dc:creator>pthurrott</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Avro raises a good point I should have addressed more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Virtualization is indeed a great solution for backwards compatibility. In fact, Microsoft's recent advances in this market suggest that the company can start moving much more quickly when it comes to dropping legacy technologies one they get a Hyper-V derivative built into the client OS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing I will say is this: I've been doing a lot of testing lately with XP and other Windows versions, and for whatever its worth, XP runs like a bat out of you know what under Virtual PC on Windows Vista. And Virtual PC isn't exactly the fastest solution around. This suggests that a better virtualization solution, coupled with something that is essentially XP, could provide Windows 7 (or whatever) with a best of both worlds type scenario. Certainly, people are speculating along these lines. I think it makes sense.&lt;/p&gt;
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