Bill Gates talks Windows 7 ... Again

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Waethorn — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:52:00 GMT

"If Live Mesh ships with Windows ...."

Whooaaah there a minute!....

Windows Live software wasn't included in Windows, and probably never will be, due to antitrust regulations. The tie-in will be available for OEM's and System Builders that choose to preinstall it, as it is now, but I highly doubt Microsoft would try to include their cloud computing stuff directly in the OS.

They'll aggressively market the services in the OS, but don't expect to see the Windows Live suite bundled in a stock install.

"Just look at AVG, it doesn't eat up a lot of resources, but it gets the job done for most people."

Funny, because I had 3 systems full of trojans and spyware come in in the last week, and all of them had AVG Free 8 installed (with the included antispyware "protection), and with all the updates no less.

Funny, because even though AVG wouldn't detect them until I ran a full scan (meaning the realtime scanner is crap), and OneCare gets a lot of grief for the 1 poor score by AV-Comparatives (which is run by University students), OneCare detected them all running in the background and successfully removed them. Windows was another story though - at least one trojan corrupted the in-box driver catalogs, so a reformat was necessary. In all cases, I talked the customers into cutting their losses and just go for a reformat anyway, since Windows was pretty much fubared before OneCare was even installed. In all circumstances, data was successfully backed up because the malware hadn't infected it - only Windows itself. On all 3 computers, Windows XP SP2 was the OS. On 2 of them, Limewire was installed (and the only P2P program ever installed). On the other, the user played free downloadable games from sites like BigFish, though not from respectable sites like Pogo or MSN Games.

re: Bill Gates talks Windows 7 ... Again

subzerohitman721 — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:24:45 GMT

I believe Gates is trying to leave Windows 7 in the fog of war, so that its competitors won't have anything decisive to counter. By leaving it vague, I think Gates wants to make the engineers at Apple and at the Linux companies scratching their heads. He's a business man at heart and he wants to give you a tease and not the full trailer yet.

I think it would be logical to shrink down Windows memory use. Anything in Seven to end the "memory hog" cry of anti-Vista pundits would be a good way to show true improvement. Just look at AVG, it doesn't eat up a lot of resources, but it gets the job done for most people. If the minimalist approach to resource use is the rule for Seven, I think that bodes well for the future of the OS.

I think speed and efficiency needs to be the next rule. If it shows lightning and thunder speeds of boot up, performance, and shut down, Seven will be something people pay for in spades. MS has to make Seven a very decisive counterpunch. I do think this is the goal.

re: Bill Gates talks Windows 7 ... Again

mjw149 — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:39:17 GMT

You don't know if Gates is right or wrong here. If Live Mesh ships with Windows 7, then that validates your biggest problem with this statement.

How much confidence can we have in MS mgmt if Gates is their chosen mouthpiece in the post-Yahoo disaster period and he doesn't even know what's going on? If we should ignore him as a crazy old uncle, then why he is wasting their partner's time in Asia, etc.?

Why even do Live Mesh if it's not shipped with Windows 7? How do they plan to get it adopted by enough people to reach critical mass? Isn't that the issue with Zune? Are you assuming that they don't ever learn their lessons?

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DarkSages — Wed, 14 May 2008 19:46:26 GMT

I don't care about it taking more memory or CPU/GPU resources so long as they add functionality and is better than vista. Not that vista is not solid which I think it is. I would like to see better media center, more usability with the home server, and make windows media player work with zune or get rid of it and make the app for the zune default (upgrade it first). Pcs now a days are so under used (cpu/ram/gpu) anyways why not actually use full potential of computes in 2010.

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Ocean — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:51:56 GMT

It's important because many are making a determined effort to skip Vista.

www.businessweek.com/.../tc20080512_157155.htm

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BrightrevCarl — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:58 GMT

Somehow I'm doubting that Windows 7 is going to be lower memory or more efficient when a bottom spec 2010 PC is going to come with a quad core CPU and 4 GB of RAM. Not to mention that every Windows upgrade since forever needs more resources than its predecessor.

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weedmonk — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:31:13 GMT

Looks like he's just trying to say that 7 will right all the perceived wrongs of Vista.

The power thing jumped at me because Vista is noticeably worse when compared to XP when it comes on laptops. Aero's tax on the GPU is a big reason but there is huge room for improvement.

Mobile phone I agree I couldn't care less about right now but it'll be nice to see what they'll come up with.

Gaming on Vista for me has been generally decent but the perception out there has been as with vista generally negative and lot of that has to do with Nvidia and the OEMs.

The last one I agree is as vague as the BS that is "cloud computing".

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