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&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=14799" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: With Firefox 3 themes, it's amateur hour</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/05/18/with-firefox-3-themes-it-s-amateur-hour.aspx#14787</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 10:31:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:14787</guid><dc:creator>johnpapola</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Paul,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there a Windows equivalent to Apple's &amp;quot;Human Interface Guidelines&amp;quot;? &amp;nbsp;Why do you think the OS has so many seemingly random differences? &amp;nbsp;Judging by the subtle and pointless variations throughout Vista, it seems as if every department was looking at a low-res jpeg of what their window style should be and extrapolating the rest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=14787" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: With Firefox 3 themes, it's amateur hour</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/05/18/with-firefox-3-themes-it-s-amateur-hour.aspx#14775</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 07:03:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:14775</guid><dc:creator>drylight</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;How can you call it a disaster in Vista when Vista's own UI is a disaster itself. Horrific doesn't describe how bad it really is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=14775" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: With Firefox 3 themes, it's amateur hour</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/05/18/with-firefox-3-themes-it-s-amateur-hour.aspx#14763</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:12:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:14763</guid><dc:creator>johnpapola</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Great article that points to some of the inherent developer issues in creating a consistent UI for Windows Vista:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/microsoft-learn-from-apple-II.ars/4"&gt;arstechnica.com/.../4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a handful of the inconsistencies that plague the entire suite of Microsoft applications. &amp;nbsp; Again, Apple isn't a perfect saint here, but Leopard was a big step forward in the consistency and unification goal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Microsoft can't provide a standard and live by it within reason for things as simple as menu placement, how is any developer supposed to know what a true &amp;quot;native look&amp;quot; even should be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.winsupersite.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=14763" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: With Firefox 3 themes, it's amateur hour</title><link>http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/05/18/with-firefox-3-themes-it-s-amateur-hour.aspx#14761</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:10:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a5a28da7-a54a-49cb-8e3d-fb9e7f7597ae:14761</guid><dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;My thoughts....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;Turn on the small buttons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;Nothing could be worse looking that Vista's neon gui, with its thick borders and goofy over all look. &amp;nbsp;Of course this is subjective, but so was 90% of your blog post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;There is no way in you know what that IE7 is faster that FF3 on Vista or XP. &amp;nbsp;IE7 is a pig when it comes to speed. &amp;nbsp;Its fat top border/button layout is hideous, and its button layout/functionality is the worst of any browser I have ever used. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IE serves one purpose, to give the full feature set to Microsoft web based applications, like Exchange OWA, or sharepoint. &amp;nbsp;MS said OWA premium for Exchange 2007 was going to work with Firefox and then dropped it at the last min. &amp;nbsp;They know if they dont make IE necessary for things like OWA/Sharepoint that it will fail completely.&lt;/p&gt;
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