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re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

Dude1313 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:03:16 GMT

Subzero- I have used it an aside from the eye candy what is compelling about Vista.... 24 year old OS, sure it is...

@timiteh- And the Windows fanboys have used Mac OSX how much; and still regurgitate 15 year old myths about the Mac OS???

@tayme- You mean like DipS*it admin's avatar? Nice enough guy fairly balanced in his views... avatar.... hmmmm

@Lindy- your eloquence in stating you case and totally owning Waethorn puts him to shame, Hat off to you sir!

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

dovella — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:24:29 GMT

Excuse me my English

I think WIndows 7 is

more SIlverlight in desktop and effect wonodows , application

Seadragon for zoom document, PDF, WOrd Excell etc.

Photo Zoom (microsoft) in Windows live photo

and more more new function!!

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

subzerohitman721 — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:58:51 GMT

First of all let me get this out of my system.

Microsoft 290,000,000 licencees vs Apple 10,000,000.

(Laughs out loud.)

You have got to be kidding me! For all the hype and hyperbolie, MS in a clearly bad year still outsold Apple by 280,000,000?!??!?!?!?!?

(Rolls on the floor, laughing my ass off.)

You have got to be joking. Talk to me when you guys have at least a fourth of the Windows user base or even a third.

For those of you who lack vison, the elmination of the mouse and keyboard is the next revolutionary step in the PC process. Moving closer to the Star Trek: TNG custom virtual and touch panels. Plus eliminating the cost of the standard keyboard and mouse would help eliminate one of the most annoying feature of both, which would be the cord. I know wireless keyboard and mouse are available, but to have them on at default would speed up installation. Also, thats less plastic being used and less junk being thrown away. That would be environmentally friendly in both pursuits. It would also be great for video gaming environments.

Plus the ability to reconfigure in the future these interfaces for other functions will become useful in ways none of us can imagine. Integrated with virtual digital signatures could go a long way in terms of secure transactions. This would be useful for school children to practice penmanship and preserve the written use of language. Being able to print things in cursive and translate them to printed text would be helpful to teachers. Written language is one of the evolutionary steps in human history and its a form we should do our best to preserve in the digital era.

I've read a few weeks ago on PC magazine a poll where many Vista critics haven't even used the OS? How can anyone who hasn't used Vista be critical of it? Thats like saying Mac sucks and not ever having been on one. I have had several dozens hours use on Mac OS-X both on virtualization and both desktop/notebook through friends and work experiences. While a pretty OS and simple to use, I just feel the user interface has not evolved since the original 1984. But I have years of experience on Macs to justify my position. I say to the Vista haters, actually use it for a few hours or days before making a judgement call.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

Waethorn — Fri, 30 May 2008 13:51:37 GMT

"The Vista 32 bits SP1 is faster (much faster for copying files) and much more responsive than the Vista 64 bits."

Performance tests show that Vista x64 SP1 is the fastest version of all for file copying and overall performance in applications. The same tests show that Vista RTM (both x86 and x64) and XP SP2 are basically the same, performance-wise. Surprisingly, XP SP3 was only just above XP RTM, which takes the bottom slot. I have no idea exactly what this means (perhaps the NAP stuff added to SP3 makes XP slower than Vista, which was designed with it in the first place?), but by the numbers, Vista x64 SP1 is the best one to go with. Compatibility with hardware and software is now almost completely on par with Vista x86 SP1 too.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

Lindy — Fri, 30 May 2008 13:22:56 GMT

@timiteh www.rif.org.

My original post on the slowness stated that it is supposedly fixed and I went to say I dont know. I dont, know or care. The problem was there for at least a year and turned off many people. It is fixed now, could be, but I dont care, Vista is a non-issue for me.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

lotsamystuff — Fri, 30 May 2008 11:45:01 GMT

I like cats.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

timiteh — Fri, 30 May 2008 09:43:40 GMT

Then Lindy how could objectivily judge Vista if you have not tried it recently with appropriate updates ?

I have even compare Vista 32 bits with SP1 to a fresh install of Vista 64 bits without SP1 on the same machine, and guess what ?

The Vista 32 bits SP1 is faster (much faster for copying files) and much more responsive than the Vista 64 bits.

This said, i personnaly prefer Windows 2008 64 bits over any other O.S.

It is fast, responsive and it features Hyper V >:-)

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

Lindy — Fri, 30 May 2008 04:23:47 GMT

@tayme the first post was typo and worded pooryly.

I meant to say I dont have a "NON VM Vista box" as in the only copy of Vista I run is in a VM. That copy has SP1 but I have not taken the time to test file copy speeds for a few reasons.

1. My VM is on a Macbook that almost never is wired

2. The overhead of a VM that is not running on a hyperviser alone would skew a test.

3. I just dont care. I have the Vista VM to help a few others, as I walk through things with them. I dont do anything on it that is taxing at all, and it gets turned on about once every 30 days.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

jimmyatondo — Thu, 29 May 2008 17:16:14 GMT

This is very interesting

but..there is something we have to notice about

we live in a world where people do what they thing is the right thing..

somebody thinks mac is the best, others that ms vista.. but the real thing is that the right thing is what we use for a better and more confortable pc use..

if you work better with mac..ok .. it is the best option for you

otherwise..pc, and even linux... are different enviroments for different kind of people..

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

timiteh — Thu, 29 May 2008 16:10:46 GMT

This is very interesting.

However i think that this capabilites should be used for either Tablet PC or for a new input device for Desktop and laptop.

Imagine an haptic(for feedback) touch screen based on this technology replacing both keyboard and mouse.

I am not talking of the main screen but of a secondary horizontal screen put on the table or replacing the keyboard of a laptop.

Such an input device could be a valuable sucessor to the keyboard/mouse combinaison.

As shown in the Jeff Han Demo you could even use a virtual keyboard whom size could be changed to fit the size of the user fingers.

It would be impressive.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

RunTimeError — Thu, 29 May 2008 13:44:20 GMT

I like stuff.

I also like things.

re: Windows 7 to feature pervasive multi-touch functionality

tayme — Thu, 29 May 2008 13:33:54 GMT

@Lindy - You posted these conflicting statements in the trail above...which is true? It is this sort of double talk along with statements like "Vista is a failure." that makes me wonder how genuine you are.

"I would not know if they are fixed since I dont have a no VM running Vista since Nov of 07." - May 28, 2008 8:36 PM

"I have a copy of Vista running in VMware Fusion." - May 28, 2008 9:21 PM

--tayme