Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

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Cfischer83 — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:47:11 GMT

cesjr, you are just proving my point even more. Although I never used the term you keep quoting "inferiority complex", I simply stated that the mac owners know their computers are inferior, which is why they defend their computers with so much passion.

and believe it or not I do know quite a few mac owners, and I have used a number of macs (I used one with Leopard today, and not my first Leopard experience either), and although not all of them are so-called 'macbois' the ones that bash windows constantly seem to come up with Straw Man arguments and over compensate in their support for Apple, that it is only common sense that Zune has become a threat because they are doing the same thing.

You may call it insulting, but that's because it's true. If you can't handle it, don't read a Windows blog.

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shark47 — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:26:27 GMT

"... mac users are suffering from some kind of mental defect "

Sorry to hear that.

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cesjr — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:37:45 GMT

Cfisher83 - "all I did was diagnose the Apple passive aggressive behaviour they've been exhibiting for years."

Right, all you do is say mac users are suffering from some kind of mental defect ("inferiority complex," "passive aggressive behavior," {insert other random neurosis with a popular-sounding ring to it"). Hey guess what, to accuse a whole class of users of having some mental defect or problem is not only namecallling, its (1) insulting, (2) overly broad, and (3) necessarily based on ignorance, since you don't even know any significant (if any) of the people you are insulting.

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

Cfischer83 — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:24:05 GMT

"You said mac users are suffering from an inferiority complex. that's namecalling in my book (and zero substance because it has nothing to do with the issues being discussed here - i.e., whether the new zunes are a success.)"

Actually, name calling would be like saying all mac users are idiots, for example (which I'm NOT doing, just making an example :P...) but all I did was diagnose the Apple passive aggressive behaviour they've been exhibiting for years. I used past behaviour to show they are falling into the same pattern as before, proving the Zune's success, which has EVERYTHING to do with the point of this topic.

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DRWAM — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:05:01 GMT

Spot on, Dave! I am at my XP Workstation now, but will be home at the Mac [and 4 other pc's/laptops] around 10 PM. It's a regular life, not a bipolar world, so I agree with all that you posted 100% [so not to get confused:)]

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

daveinla — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:34:39 GMT

To the Softie zealots out here: (weedmonk and al.)

- This blog is not yours only

- Now I'll explain to you why some people who also like the Mac come here to read news and post comments, because apparently you seem to have trouble understanding first why some people buy Macs, and second why they come on this Blog:

They are some people out there who are interested by technology and computers in general. Some of them tried the Mac and loved it.

Some of them only read Mac oriented blog (the zealots) and some others are interested to read different take on computers including the Mac platform (and even if you don't like it it's not an insignificant platform).

Paul is one of the few Windows guy openly interested in the Mac platform, so it's interesting to compare his point of view vs. more mainstream publication (like slashdot or the register). Some windows zealots out here might not understand what's the point in reading websites that talks about something else than windows, and dare to criticize its weaknesses.

But still some dual Mac and Windows users like me like to read different point of view, and sometimes it's normal to bring back the Win enthusiasts here to reality when Paul tend to skew things a little bit towards MS and Windows... hey you can't blame him it's the guys that make him live !

So I guess that you'll have to accept the fact that all computer enthusiasts out here are not only windows users, that they are allowed to read whatever publication they want and to voice they opinion, even if you don't like it.

Now if you can't stand competition or other point of view, refrain from leaving comments here.

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

DRWAM — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:18:37 GMT

Buy.com has the old Brown 30 GB Zune for $120, and the same one refurbished is $95. These are less than half the original price. That's amazing, but I guess they want to clear out old inventory for new. Next, they will be at the dollar store. Sansa clip 2GB that competes with the iPod shuffle, can be bought for $35, and it's crossplatform. Bring them prices down baby!

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cesjr — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:15:34 GMT

"What in my post had name calling? Now you're reading stuff that isn't there. Also, it's only zero substance if you don't take anything from it."

"hey bash Windows so hard because they know they are inferior. Now they are bashing the Zune which would indicate they feel threatened... It's simple iPsychology 101"

You said mac users are suffering from an inferiority complex. that's namecalling in my book (and zero substance because it has nothing to do with the issues being discussed here - i.e., whether the new zunes are a success.)

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

Cfischer83 — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:11:43 GMT

- About cfisher83 and weedmonk - again, why are these zero substance, 100 percent namecalling posts always from the windows guys here? Funny, huh?

What in my post had name calling? Now you're reading stuff that isn't there. Also, it's only zero substance if you don't take anything from it.

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

DRWAM — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:05:52 GMT

Ya know, some of you complain that the Mac fanboys protest when Paul or some one does not write a rave review or post about an Apple product, but shoe is on the other foot here with 'this is a cute one' isn't it.

I am just trying to achieve balance gentlemen and Weedmonk. My custom built NINJA PC is about as beautiful as they come, and no one will convince me otherwise, especially since I am larger than all of you girly men.

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lotsamystuff — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:12:01 GMT

"All the macboi'st that troll here are really something....don't you understand that incessantly queefing on Microsoft related blogs doesn't help your beloved iCompany in any way shape or form?"

FIrst: Paul has made it clear that this blog is not completely "Microsoft-related". Take a look at the top topics discussed--"Apple, iPod, iTunes, Mac"...they're all high on the list.

Second: This post is a Zune/iPod post. The iPod is a cross-platform music player. Most people that use it are, in fact, PC users, not "macbois".

Third: "queefing"? "whore"? "iJizz"? That's the best you can do? Your post exemplifies the kind of childish name-calling that you so crudely attribute to others. Way to prove a point.

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

cesjr — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:47:50 GMT

About cfisher83 and weedmonk - again, why are these zero substance, 100 percent namecalling posts always from the windows guys here? Funny, huh?

granted not all the windows enthusiasts are like this, but still. none of the apple enthusiasts posting here do this.

re: Macworld tries to throw cold water on Zune success

DRWAM — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:07:32 GMT

Dipsh, we doctors love you! Yep, even us iDocs. God bless you man! Thanks.