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DRWAM — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:37:08 GMT

Cheez, the apps that are or will be available will be the mainstream bread and butter stuff only, IMO. Specialty apps probably will not have a place in the cloud. So that leaves price. Quicken, MS Office and other money apps are nnot that expensive and would be tax deductible as a business expense, and the cost over 2 to 4 yrs of use is negligible, especially when considering the convenience of having your data and apps on your own drive. This is my opinion, but I am a business owner. IT support costs more, but you would still need them in the cloud. So the potential savings probably should focus on IT support, rather than saving a few dollars on apps.

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theCheez — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:34:04 GMT

I think the main target that might go with cloud computing is the small businesess and home consumers that don't want to have to purchase the expensive office software. Obviously a mid to large size business is going to be very slow if ever to go to cloud computing, but the price point is just right for the home or small business user.

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Spidubic — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:25:30 GMT

Cloud computing relies too much on the internet. As DRWAM said employees would be staring at the walls a lot instead of working if you have unreliable internet service. And doesn't relying on the internet that much open the door to hackers and terrorists doing more to cause havoc with the internet? Its like Windows. So many people use Windows based computers that hackers can't help but attack it. So if it gets to a point where so many people rely on an internet connection to work does it not make sense that slowing or stopping the internet would be something a hacker would start trying harder to do?

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Waethorn — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:12:40 GMT

"Anyone who bets against cloud computing is taking a fool's bet."

That's a loaded statement if I ever saw one.

So basically you're saying that all of the security researchers that are saying that they don't trust Google and other companies that utilize tracker ad technologies are fools?

"“computers are complex and unreliable,” given to crashing and afflicted with viruses."

And how exactly does cloud-based computing fix that? By taking computers out of the equation, or by replacing viruses with spyware?! Maybe by taking the entire internet out of the equation, which definitely eliminates the possibility of viruses....Ooops, that puts Google out of a job though doesn't it....

Cloud-based computing is just a re-thinking of server-based terminal computing. Although heavy client software is an old way of thinking, it's not going away anytime soon. With virtualization technologies, the next step for enterprises is application virtualization, where security can be kept wrapped up in a trusted environment, but applications can still be centralized. Microsoft already offers that - it's called SoftGrid. Most enterprises just won't trust online identities with private information.

As you said about Facebook before Paul: "If you don't want Facebook spreading your personal information, don't put it on there in the first place". Ditto goes for Google.

Eventually, OS deployments will be delivered via a network connection from a server to dumb terminal workstations as standard fare, but that time will be long coming. I can imagine it would be something evolved from what we know now as PXE booting into an OS image that's stored on a server. That's already been done many times before, but not with a current, widely-used operating sysem (namely Windows). Consider how much processing power is required for Windows Vista, which even you say is "slower, but offers more functionality than previous versions of Windows, which is really what you want in the end", and then consider what would be required to run that completely over a network pipeline, EVEN IF IT WERE PROCESSED LOCALLY. Network bandwidth just can't keep pace with locally-installed software, let alone locally processed data, so until it can supercede desktop processing power (which is likely never), it's just not going to replace it. Sorry.

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DRWAM — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:25:06 GMT

I don't know if I agree with the cloud model. We have around 300 employees. Our business class internet service [Comcast] goes down frequently. My employees would be staring at the walls or having a day long coffee break, all on company time, if we relied on these web solutions. The cost of apps on each computer, as well as those that are server based on our intranet, is a small price to pay when compared to the revenue loss due to unreliable internet service. We would need 99.99% uptime guarantee before even considering web based deployment. After that, I would still want my apps local. This model works better than the server based model in the past that we had, which mimicks the 'cloud' [of the clan McCloud]. Also, although MS dominates with Office, I cannot call it a monopoly as there are several alternatives that have been around for a while. Popularity does not equal monopoly. Trust me, I have been sued for it, and the case was dropped.

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