Simplest WWDC predictions ever

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johnpapola — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:54:30 GMT

Keynote over. iPhone 3G with GPS for $199 in 70 countries.

Game over.

Third party apps look nuts. Games look close to the PSP in quality.

The litmus test for who's a hack will be those that complain "another event without mention of the mac." Watch for it.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

johnpapola — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:27:48 GMT

correction: he's even saying the IPHONE is not a smash hit.

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johnpapola — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:43:42 GMT

Just to demonstrate for Paul how insulting, generalizing and ludicrous his now-incessant "iCabal" label is... I'd like to quote John Gruber of Daring Fireball from his podcast "The Talk Show" regarding the iPhone's current price, its potential for massive sales (as in iPod-level sales) and the minds of normal people:

"If you're the sort of person that's waiting until the iphone costs $199...because you just don't want to pay more than 200 dollars for a cell phone. which I think is the way normal people think. i mean, you know... the iPhone is clearly not going to become a smash hit until it can sell for two hundred dollars because normal people have the good common sense not to spend six hundred dollars on a cell phone like we did."

Wow. John Gruber sure sounds exactly like Paul on this, doesn't he? He's calling those of us that bought the iPhone at $600 and even $400 not normal, including himself. He's even saying the iPod is not a smash hit. Both are obviously true. He's obviously an honest, reasonable person, which is why his blog is easily my #1 favorite.

And yet I know that Paul and Waethorn and the like consider Gruber to be part of the "iCabal".

Well, Paul. One of the leading voices of the iCabal seems to be on the same page with you. That kinda shatters the whole concept doesn't it?

Now, as for the Windows-hack equivolent of the iCabal? I'd never resort to such a demeaning and insulting rhetorical approach myself. I do know that there are some writers that are obvious and verifiable moron hacks when it comes to Apple. Rob Enderle is at the very very top of the list. I just call these people a more general and effective label:

Ignorant Shills.

ps: if, however, you were inclined to use a generalization, I nominate "MicroShill". ;)

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

johnpapola — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:31:00 GMT

@DRWAM,

iPhone has had video out for a while now via Apple's composite or component cable adapters. It works and looks great. Being able to carry your demo reel on your phone and play it out via progressive component out is pretty awesome.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

DRWAM — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:32:31 GMT

It would also be nice if the iPhone had video out. You could use it to travel with some movies to view on a TV with composite input. Most camcorders include compatible cables that could be used, so that you do not need to buy it from Apple's store.

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Auras — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:15:16 GMT

@cesjr: Who are you kidding with EDGE? Bluetooth is practically faster than EDGE.

I don't know in the US but we have 3G networks for a good time now here in Romania and the rates have gone done making it accessible to virtually everyone. Starting from 5E for 3 days unlimited time but 8GB traffic or 9E for unlimited capped at 1mbps

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

cesjr — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:13:21 GMT

"Simplest" predictions? More like unbalanced and incomplete predictions due to inherent biases. Paul's bitterness and bias against apple runs so deep, he can't think straight about what's likely to be most important about WWDC - in order:

- Apps, apps, apps. - what will be news (and potentially shocking) is the breadth and depth and quality of the apps that will be shown.

- GSP - over at Wired, they are reporting that Popular Mechanics interviewed an executive at a portable GSP/navigation device maker who said he was scared ***less by the iphone with GPS. Seriously, the screen is big enough and why not get your phone, iPod and Nav/GPS in one device? And no monthly rip-off fee like the GSP phones from Verizon.

- 3G Speed- I'm expecting apple to run some webpage loading benchmark comparisons to other 3G devices, showing how much faster the iPhone is. It already was very competitive on EDGE (more than you might think). Another prediction - now that the iPhone is faster, expect everyone in the press and blogosphere to drop speed as a point of comparison between the iPhone and the slower iPhone killers out there

- 3G cost - Paul likes to complain that EDGE is slow and overpriced, but in fact 3G has typically been very expensive and not seen much penetration outside of rich geeks and enterprise users not footing the bill. As a consumer focused company, I don't think Apple will do this. Maybe $20 month for EDGE and $25 for 3G?

- Worldwide iPhone rollout news - yes, there's been dribs and drabs but a lot is unofficial and we may not know everything yet. Expect apple to put a big map of the world on the screen and show how the iPhone is now available to X percent of the world's population. The only potential big missing piece is China - but we may see an announcement on that as well.

- Pricing - I'm expecting announcements from Apple regarding discounts/subsidies for signing up for a contract. These will get the biggest attention from the general public.

Possibles -

- video chat on the iPhone

- some kind of TV over 3G service

- another device - but I don't think so. Apple has so much to announce and show, they don't really need to show anything else to wow.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

cesjr — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:57:39 GMT

Paul -

I'd rather be a member of the iCabal than the WinBitter crowd like you.

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lotsamystuff — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:12:59 GMT

Secret features mentioned (scroll down to 10:30):

www.engadget.com/.../live-from-wwdc-2006-steve-jobs-keynote

There. Yes, Mr. Jobs did mention "secret" features. Were there features announced after this keynote? Yes. Therefore, he didn't lie, even if the "secret features" turned out to be less than earth-shattering.

"Jedi Mind Trick" my ***.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

Auras — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:19:25 GMT

@Snakedoctor1 I've never had Leopard crash in a Windows BSD, everything isn't moving, computer stalled kind-of way.

BUT I've had it stay in a black screen stance several times when I resume my macbook from sleep mode. Couldn't to nothing, had to restart.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

dovella — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:01:56 GMT

Leopard Love??

Leopard is only SHOW BUISNESS!!

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Avro — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:37:20 GMT

@ Paul

I was in Afghanistan for much of 2006 and 2007 and really not much was made of them in the Mac publications, so I may have missed the 'secret features'. All I expected in Leopard was a solid upgrade to Tiger and that is what I got. I am sure that most Mac Users were expecting the same thing and happiness with Leopard seems pretty good.

weblogs.baltimoresun.com/.../leopard_gets_love_vista_gets_d.html

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

Snakedoctor1 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:45:41 GMT

Vista and Leopard dont compete. You have to go way out of your way to choose Leopard, as in buy into the Apple world.

With Vista (as a consumer/joe user) you cant choose anything but Vista when getting a new PC.

As far as Leopard crashing?????????????????? Not once have even had a kernel panic with it. I can say the same for my Vista PC.

Of course my install of Leopard was fresh OS install and on a intel Macbook. I have read that some have had problems with over the top installs. That tatic is never ideal on Windows or OS X.

re: Simplest WWDC predictions ever

johnpapola — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:53:06 GMT

"Umm... You do realize that....... Vista came out BEFORE Leopard don't you?"

Not sure what that has to do with anything I posted. I'm simply saying that given the maturity of Windows and OSX, the changes to the finder and desktop that Paul and Waethorn ignored in order to prove that Apple "lied" about secret features are comparable to the changes made to the UI in Vista. That is, unique but incremental productivity boosts. I said nothing of who came first or whatever.

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Cfischer83 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:36:47 GMT

"The entirety of Vista's UI changes from XP fall into the same narrow range of UI tweaks and enhancements."

Umm... You do realize that....... Vista came out BEFORE Leopard don't you?