Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:15:13 GMT

BrightrevCarl

On a positive note, none of the Apple Advocates have changed the subject on any of today's 3 topics. Maybe it's a religious thing and those who worship Steve Jobs don't troll on Sundays.

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BrightrevCarl — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:06:33 GMT

Why does EVERY thread here have to devolve into an Apple vs. Microsoft thing? Here's an idea: Let's talk about the actual blog post.

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Mum — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:52:07 GMT

"Ocean's 4th grade trolling aside, when can we expect the huddled masses of Apple users to show up and rip Paul for being so negative on Fiji?

I mean they do hate Paul's negativity in general or just when it on an Apple product?"

I actually thought I'd write a comment about how the tone of these posts is a bit annoying. The stronger opinions you have across the board, the stupider you generally are.

Being critical and being negative are two different things. I hate negativity :)

"Me, when i think of Apple, one of the first thing coming to my mind are people like you, and that, i can tell you, is a very effective way to keep me from any switching thoughts."

And he's not even a Mac user. Go figure.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

Ocean — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:32:38 GMT

I think your avatar is is subliminal trolling, Admin.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

Dipsh t Admin — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:38:35 GMT

Ocean is a true troll. Not only does he post off topic things, he never offers any of his own commentary. This board needs an ignore feature.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

Master3 — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:29:42 GMT

Paul is it too much to ask to block this idiots IP address?

Not only is he unable to stay on topic, he is just being a troll.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

Ocean — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:56:15 GMT

>>While this may seem like any standard security hole, other researchers say that the work is a major breakthrough and there is very little that Microsoft can do to fix the problems. These attacks work differently than other security exploits, as they aren't based on any new Windows vulnerabilities, but instead take advantage of the way Microsoft chose to guard Vista's fundamental architecture. According to Dino Dai Zovi, a popular security researcher, "the genius of this is that it's completely reusable. They have attacks that let them load chosen content to a chosen location with chosen permissions. That's completely game over."

According to Microsoft, many of the defenses added to Windows Vista (and Windows Server 2008) were added to stop all host-based attacks. For example, ASLR is meant to stop attackers from predicting key memory addresses by randomly moving a process' stack, heap and libraries. While this technique is very useful against memory corruption attacks, it would be rendered useless against Dowd and Sotirov's new method. "This stuff just takes a knife to a large part of the security mesh Microsoft built into Vista," said Dai Zovi to SearchSecurity.com. "If you think about the fact that .NET loads DLLs into the browser itself and then Microsoft assumes they're safe because they're .NET objects, you see that Microsoft didn't think about the idea that these could be used as stepping stones for other attacks. This is a real tour de force."<<

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Ocean — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:54:55 GMT

Vista's security has been thoroughly broken.

>>It’ll be interesting to see how Microsoft spins this. The paper has huge implications and fixing these issues is going to be tricky. Given how long we can expect Vista to be around I expect that Microsoft will try to fix things in a future service pack. These issues are going to haunt Windows for years.<<

blogs.zdnet.com/hardware

www.neowin.net/.../vista39s-security-rendered-completely-useless-by-new-exploit

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

Ocean — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:01:28 GMT

Never owned an Apple product, other than a iPod. I like XP.

>>I'll state for the record that I am not currently an employee of or otherwise paid by Microsoft<<

No, I'd bet its some shadowy company MS hires.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

shark47 — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:46:09 GMT

"To continue being thorough, there is no official MS plant."

Here's a list of all the plants that grow in MS:

http://tinyurl.com/6f6deg

None of them is official, of course.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:58:09 GMT

Shark

To continue being thorough, there is no official MS plant.

There are, however:

An official MS tree (Magnolia)

An official MS flower (Magnolia)

An official MS wildflower (Tickseed)

I don't know whether one of these is what Ocean meant since I doubt any of them are paid. (Was he calling me a professional Magnolia?)

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:51:54 GMT

Shark

And before Microsoft Research's project Midori was the darling of the hype set, it was their Singularity project.

If they ever go to the Microsoft Research site and actually see the hundreds of projects that are never intended to be products their heads might explode.

What they fail to realize is that MSR is a pure research lab. That's part of what attracts the top researches that work at their labs. The researchers are not expected to produce products and that isn't a factor in getting a project approved. Apparently funding research without a short term return on investment is a alien concept to a lot of writers these days. Luckily, it isn't to Microsoft.

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:45:49 GMT

shark

re: Mississippi

Sometimes being thorough and precise helps cut confusion. And, sometimes, not so much :-)

re: Microsoft confirms that Fiji is a joke

shark47 — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:07:39 GMT

"(Of course, I could have read that wrong, in which case, I also hereby state that I do not now nor have I ever lived in the state of Mississippi although I did spend a night in Jackson in, if I remember correctly, 1979. I also state that I am a member of Kingdom Animalia and not Kingdom Plantae. I think that answers the possible interpretations of the implied question but feel free to clarify if I missed one.)"

:-) I was a little surprised at theMississipi reference at first. That was funny.