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re: The potential of Live Mesh is limitless...

Waethorn — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:43:16 GMT

@mike:

my mistake.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:46:41 GMT

Waethorn

I think he was actually on topic and was asking about Live Mesh.

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Waethorn — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:43:59 GMT

"Do we know how it handles parent and sub folders? For example if I sync my Music folder that has 10,000 different artist/band sub-folders, are their any limits?"

HFS, FAT, or NTFS?

Most consoles just index by tags, so you shouldn't need to organize separate folders anyway.

The PS3 will only organize music with a set folder layout, otherwise you have to use the "Show all files" option, which displays by filename. You can import tracks into your library and the PS3 will sort them out and index the tags for you. It only displays album art if they're embedded into the tags though - it won't use a Folder.jpg file in the folder the way that Microsoft likes to do it. Media Monkey is a good program for fixing that (editing tags and embedding album art) if you want to use a Microsoft program to rip CD's, such as WMP or the Zune software.

I have no idea how the 360 does it.

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experiencemusic — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:18:54 GMT

Do we know how it handles parent and sub folders? For example if I sync my Music folder that has 10,000 different artist/band sub-folders, are their any limits?

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Waethorn — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:26:55 GMT

"The Xbox 360 should be able to read NTFS "

Read my comment about MSC. NTFS isn't part of the spec. The 360 is designed as an entertainment console, not a computer (just like the PS3).

"XP/Vista should allow you to format FAT32 up to its limit"

Actually you can do it from within Windows XP using the Format.exe commandline program built into Windows (dunno if it works on Vista). It is only restricted during Windows Setup in XP. The reason for restricting it is because of the waste of cluster space and poor performance.

See my comment about the free 3rd-party formatting tool. It supports varying cluster sizes. It even works on Vista x64. Docs are on the page.

"Windows 98 was a long time ago."

Technically 127GB in Windows 98[SE]/ME because of LBA restrictions, but FDISK wouldn't do disks correctly over 64GB in Windows 98's DOS because of a bug. Microsoft eventually issued a fix for that online though. Windows ME had no software restrictions for partitioning, but also didn't support 48-bit LBA so the 127GB limit still existed due to lack of hardware support. And how many people had more than 32GB back when Windows 98 was current?

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bettieblu — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:45:09 GMT

@gorath yes I said HFS and I said Leopard. My mistake. Simple point was that that the MS OS tools could not format my external drive using a MS format, so I could us it with my MS game console. I had to use a Mac to do it.

The Xbox 360 should be able to read NTFS and FAT32, or XP/Vista should allow you to format FAT32 up to its limit....what ever that is, too lazy to look it up, I think its 2TB?..32TB?, I forget Windows 98 was a long time ago.

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DRWAM — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:37:15 GMT

Thanks bettieblu, I had no idea that more than 32GB could be formatted. I have 4 drives in my Pro Tower [ two of which are set up as RAID 0. I was going to mirror [RAID 1] with the RAID 0, but I prefer to back up manually, so not to mrror a problem [although I've never had one] and the 4th is Time Machine. But I will format the entire 300GB external USB 2 drive to use with the DVD player. The 30 GB FAT32 partition got filled fast, but 270 GB more will do the trick. The DVD player is DIVX certified and cost $50 - 100, which is cheaper than the cloud services and any drive works, creating more storage and less expense than streaming technology. However, now that I have a Plasma TV, I may start using the XP box right beside it as the vid card can do it. Media Center just may be in my future.

Thanks

Doc

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gorath — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:42:24 GMT

@ bettieblu

"@gorath en.wikipedia.org/.../HFS_Plus

None that I will hit in my life time."

Well, you said HFS. There is a monumental difference between the two.

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bettieblu — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:29:39 GMT

Leopard. Go into disk utility and choose "MS DOS", and partition (which will format as well) the whole thing. MS DOS in that utility is really FAT32.

Takes about 20 seconds to format.

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DRWAM — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:13:07 GMT

bettieblu,holy crap, I can format the entire 300GB to FAT#@ with my Mac with just 1 partition? Is that correct? I got Leopard and Tiger or Jaguar. Take your pick. Which one did you use?

Thanks,

Doc

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bettieblu — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:42:49 GMT

I know I have a PS3, but I installed a 320gig notebook drive in it and formatted it with the PS3 OS in about 30 seconds. It is used only for adult T and M games (my games) and its not attached to the TV we use for Movie watching.

The thing that kills me about the 360 is using purely MS products they make it hard, if not impossible to hookup my 500gig drive to my 360. Which is a shame because watching movies from the HD is great, since the DVD on the 360 is silent. If I could just install a notebook drive in it like the PS3 is would great. Heck if I did not have 15+ kids games for the 360 I would just move over to the PS3 full time. Then again I would miss out on a few games like Fable II and the follow on to Battlestations Midway.

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Waethorn — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:23:42 GMT

@bettie:

Just so you know, the PS3 has the same restriction. The idea is that you'd only use MP3 players with MTP (Media Transport Protocol - used by PlaysForSure devices and other devices that only work within jukebox software like WMP) or MSC (Mass Storage Class - appears as a disk drive) support. Flash drives are also commonly in FAT or FAT32 format too, and some host USB controllers can't tell the difference between a USB Flash drive and an MP3 player in MSC mode. iPods can't be formatted to NTFS under normal means either. HFS+ is no longer the default filesystem type for iPods. Full-sized hard drives weren't considered to be a common device that would be connected to game platform, so support for NTFS was left out.