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re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Avro — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:43:18 GMT

@gorath No, I like the way Apple does it. I really do not need to know when the internet, mouse et al is working, it should. What I do need to know that if something is not working is why. I like the OS X approach - your connection appears not to be working, go to diagnostics and it will tell you if the problem is Airport, the ISP or the Internet and so on.

@Mike In 7 years of using OS X I have never seen the balloons you refer to, perhaps there is a menu option somewhere for turning the Help balloons on but so far myself, wife and children have not found it nor do we intend on looking for it!!!

@subzerohitman 'My criticisms for Apple are its marketing, bundling practices, lack of public beta programs, and the condescending views of some of its more hardcore customers.'

As I mentioned before the marketing successfully targets some of the shortcomings in several versions of Windows. You may have only had one virus, a couple screen freezes and a few cryptic error messages but they are very hard to forget and Apple exploits those. Lies not really but not really fair either but it does seem to work for them. The adverts that focus more on the positive features of the Mac are better, but it seems less funny - but remember these are aimed at the switcher crowds not the Mac Users.

Bundling? If you mean by that including Safari, Mail and iLife, I think this is no bad thing at all and Apple is very good at promoting rival companies software apps on their website, even offering downloads of them so the competition is there.

Hardcore users? You may have a point and it is through reading this blog that my opinion of Windows has changed. Six months ago had you asked me about Windows I would have said everybody would be better off with a Mac. Now I don't think so. What you are used to and is working for you is probably best. If I have friends who have never come to grips with Windows I will suggest trying a Mac but I am beginning to think like Paul that they are more for tech and specialist crowd. It is a bit different for me as I have had Macs for 12 years and am used to it.

There are some Windows fans on certain forums who are incredibly hostile to Mac Users and I think that sometimes provokes a bit of a reaction. It certainly isn't very nice to be told 'go back to media studies' when you are trying to discuss some IT point.

The other thing is that I am having an excellent experience with Windows XP on my Mac Pro. I am not sure whether it is the hardware or drivers but I am really enjoying it and if I have a need to go to Vista or Windows 7 I certainly wouldn't mind putting it on a hard drive (4T of storage :-) )

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Dipsh t Admin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:56:48 GMT

"One is "Solutions found to Windows Problems" or something of that sort. I don't want it. I've solved the problems myself. The second is, "Some startup programs were not started automatically" or something like that. This has something to do with Windows Defender, I think. I don't think it's due to msconfig."

You can turn off problem reporting if you want, although I would keep it on. You may also want to clear out the problem history, as it might have a history for stuff that has been long fixed or removed. Do this from Problem Reports and Solutions, usually I start typing "problem re" in the search box.

I've seen the second behavior with msconfig more often than with Defender, but it is usually related to an application that requires a UAC response before running. Rather than delaying startup, it keeps it in the holding area until you respond.

Some suggested sites to take a gander at are aerotaskforce.com and aquataskforce.com, both created by Long Zheng of istartedsomething.com.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

shark47 — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:27:36 GMT

"This article by Mr. Ghazi debunked many of the anti-Vista F.U.D. nonsense. At the same time, Mr. Ghazi was critical of people who knee jerk react in general."

The problem is that the mainstream tech journalists and bloggers largely ignore such articles. So, for most people, the FUD is still the truth.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

subzerohitman721 — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:26:48 GMT

@Master3:

Amen. I'll be glad when they do.

Later.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Master3 — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:09:49 GMT

@Ocean

What does any of this have to do with "Vista Annoyances Resolved"

Paul, can you please implement an IGNORE button for the comments?

@ subzerohitman721

PC World and PC Mag are becoming thinner by the week. They cant compete with blogs and info online so they have resorted to monthly MS bashing and Apple promoting in a desperate effort to appear "hip" and hopefully draw readers.

What they dont get is that Mac users already have special publications for them, and Windows users rather go elsewhere than waste money on people telling them how much the stuff they use "sucks".

Just counting down the days until both those rags fold.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

subzerohitman721 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:50:23 GMT

I have to agree with Avro about the pop up ballons. I think you should at least be given the option to turn off Windows notifications. However, being a former XP user and a current Vista user, the pop ups in Vista are a lot less than XP from my experience. XP was truely annoying in that and I was glad to leave part of that behind.

However, it shouldn't be that hard to create an OS behavior option in the Control Panel that turns off certain behaviors. If you want to tone down UAC notifications, that should also be an option. So if you don't need all this information from Windows, you can turn them off by application, internal OS options, or both.

@Lindy

There's a sports radio personality here in Dallas, that uses the term "Fair but Biased." HIs name is Randy Galloway and he makes no apologies for his opinions. In many ways, Paul's style of writing reminds me of Randy Galloway. Fair but biased. Just look at the recent Xbox 360 Hits 60 review, Paul is really critical of the 360's issue such as RROD's, heat issues, fan noise cooling, and the DVD noise. I really like how he describes the DVD playback.

"It rattles and hums like a tank, rendering DVD movie watching on the device a painful experience."

Ouch. I couldn't agree more. Microsoft fumbaled the football on the 360's and its paying a price. People aren't buying because they are waiting for these issues to be resolved. Also, the recent lot of games just haven't been there. Paul is very complimentary to the PS3 and even gives the Wii a compliment.

I think Paul can be objective, but keep in mind he's writing for Windows users. Just as a lot of Mac writers assume you own a Mac and you think its the best thing since sliced cheeze. This brings me to my next point. You've already got a pro-Apple Inc bias. So anything thats slightly negative of Apple gets a knee jerk reaction. Perhaps since us Windows users don't have that kind of emotion invested in a products, we can see the flaws of Apple's products easily. As for me, I don't really have a negative view of Apple. My criticisms for Apple are its marketing, bundling practices, lack of public beta programs, and the condescending views of some of its more hardcore customers. This article by Mr. Ghazi debunked many of the anti-Vista F.U.D. nonsense. At the same time, Mr. Ghazi was critical of people who knee jerk react in general.

I believe Paul is pushing back against some of Apple biased publications out there. If you can get them to quit being so senational against Microsoft, then writers like Paul won't have to respond. Just check out PC Magazine, PC World & its contributing writers, eWeek, and others. I believe it was you who ridiculed Vista users because of an exploit that quote "broke all Windows Vista security." However, the exploit it takes advantage of was patched in October 2007. With over 86% of Vista users patched with SP1, the exploit would have failed because of the patch and other layers of Vista security.

Sometimes it pays to be patient, get all the information and then make the proper statements.

Hope this helps everyone.

Peace.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Ocean — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:30:19 GMT

The Zune turns a profit...for someone:

www.bostonherald.com/.../view.bg

MS War with Sony sputters:

blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/.../147162.asp

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

gorath — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:50:14 GMT

@ avro, and other aloon-annoyed folk.

I got into thinking, that maybe it's becasue of the silly ballon-style graphic that we get annoyed at these things? Maybe if they looked more polished, and part of the OS, then they wouldn't matter as much?

thoughts?

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

shark47 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:22:26 GMT

I think Mike gave a good explanation for that earlier in this thread. To avoid you the trouble of searching for it, let me paste it here:

"Paul does bash the Wii but less than he bashes XBox360

As for "just picking the best", I'm sure they're what Paul thinks is best and that makes it hard to make the case that he has a bias toward Microsoft products when he so thinks they make the worse product.

If anything he'd be showing a pro-Windows and anti-Microsoft bias. (and based on the large number of Apple product he uses and endorses, a pro-Apple bias as well)

Kind of the quick summary of Paul's views seems to be:

Windows - pro

Most other Microsoft products - anti

Most other non-Microsoft products for Windows - pro

OS X - anti

Most other Apple products - pro

Hardly "Anti-anythingnotMS vitriol""

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:20:00 GMT

community.winsupersite.com/.../default.aspx

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:19:01 GMT

Lindy

Or, you could use these:

community.winsupersite.com/.../default.aspx

Which link represents positive and which represents negative? Knowing Paul's writing style you almost don't even have to open them to get a feel for the slant they will take.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Lindy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:07:28 GMT

Yes I probably did miss it. Just look at the blog article titles in this two links.....dont open them up just read the titles.

community.winsupersite.com/.../default.aspx

Which link represents positive and which represents negative? Knowing Paul's writing style you almost don't even have to open them to get a feel for the slant they will take.

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

shark47 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:43:55 GMT

I guess you missed his comments on Windows Mobile or Zune or even XBox 360. Most Mac users here either ignored them totally or dismissed them - "So what's new? They suck anyway."

re: Vista Annoyances Resolved

Lindy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:17:49 GMT

Paul does point out dislikes of MS stuff, with out a doubt and will point out stuff he likes about some Apple products. In those cases he is much like the tweak guide author, and honestly that would be a great place to stop. It works for the other guy for sure.

When he does not like an Apple product, he turns into a 5th grader with his language/sarcasm. He goes to extremes with terms like "LIAR" and other terms that seem extreme. Or another example when Apple released one of its point releases 10.5.3 I think, and it was a large file size (280meg) he makes negative statements like "Apple finally takes Leopard out of Beta, did they replace the whole OS?". Pure flame bait.

All of which would be fine if he gave MS or all vendors the same 5th grader/sarcastic bashing when they did the same things. I applied SP1 to an Exchange 2007 server over this last weekend, it was a 800meg download that expanded out to 1.2gig....which was a complete replacement of all files on the DVD, or how big is SP1 for Vista, or SP1 for Office 2007?? Where is the outrage!!!!???:) Another favorite term of his, as if anything in IT is an outrage really????? Well I guess killing off play for sure was an outrage:)

My point is really either choose NOT to be selectively (bias) childish/sarcastic at all (best approach) , or be that way whenever something is not good, no matter who makes it.