Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

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re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

kellymjones — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:49:55 GMT

The way I hope things go with Live Mesh is that *eventually* not only will your data be sync'd to your computer and the cloud, but the applications will be sync'd across devices and in the cloud. I'd love to see applications follow the user no matter which computer they are using, usable in offline and online mode. Google gears almost makes this happen, but the apps are quite primitive and the syncing between devices is not there. Hopefully the upcoming PDC will make things clear.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

Waethorn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:54:26 GMT

"Citation, please?"

....Oh, I would say all the complaints made by developers at the WWDC when they talked about app development being done in Safari only, and that the SDK was actually just a web toolkit.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

lotsamystuff — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:27:15 GMT

"...even Apple conceded that their initial play (or was that "ploy") on the iPhone was a joke."

Citation, please?

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

Waethorn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:12:47 GMT

"Web 2.0 AJAX applets in a browser is the future!"

....even Apple conceded that their initial play (or was that "ploy") on the iPhone was a joke.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:29:29 GMT

Or, to put it another way, you get some very interesting new scenarios to take advantage of the connected world when you don't lock yourself into a "Web 2.0 AJAX applets in a browser is the future!" type of of narrow mindset.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:19:05 GMT

Waethorn

That's just one scenario it enables. There's a reason Microsoft is having the "getVIRTUALIZEDnow Summit" on Monday. www.getvirtualnow.com/main.aspx

When you combine Hyper-V, App-V and the other virtualization technologies together you get the potential for a quiet revolution in how software is sold, deployed and managed.

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Waethorn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:02:18 GMT

@Mike:

Looks like a whole new way to market business machines: lease hardware platforms with software as a single remotely-managed virtual environment.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:45:10 GMT

Waethorn:

"I wonder if Microsoft is offering [Hosted App-V] as an option for service providers to market to customers...."

That's what Mary Jo Foley is saying in her blog post, "New Microsoft virtualization license lets hosters deliver third-party software as a service" at blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft

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adondai — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:31:15 GMT

I do use Google Docs as a glorified text editor... and that's all it's good for. Start doing anything beyond that, even simple formatting, and the frustration will mount!

Word 2007 is just so well designed and useful. I wouldn't have said that last year in high school, but this year now that I'm doing my university degree and writing up reports and essays and all that, I would hate not to have all the Word features... makes life so much easier.

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

Waethorn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:30:56 GMT

Hosted App-V would be the best option, since App-V synchronizes a software package and OS locally, but is managed remotely when a connection exists.

I wonder if Microsoft is offering this as an option for service providers to market to customers....

re: Cloud computing vs. Software + Services; Google Docs vs. Office Live Workspace

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:59:02 GMT

"What happens when it really does offer the 10 percent of Office than 99 percent of users really need?"

The problem with that statement is that it isn't really the case. It's more like "99% of users would be happy with 15% of Office. 10% that they all use and another 5% spread around all the rest of the features. The problem being they pretty much all use different features to make up their 5%"

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BestSnowman — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:17:33 GMT

I have to whole heartedly agree that software + service is much better than just service. I have a high speed "always on" broadband connection and I am working towards an online degree. One of my problems with Google Docs is when my internet connection goes down (just a couple weeks a go a fiber optic main was cut) I can't even work on my homework anymore.

That said Web Office would make a good compliment (but not replacement) to Office when I'm stuck without my laptop and the only computer I have to use doesn't have office.