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re: Windows: Life without Walls

Jin Nava — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:01:57 GMT

I really got to watch more TV, the ad's are interesting, and intelligently done. I've watched enough TV to see the Apple ad's, Microsoft ad are well thought out come back. Now as far as their slogan, "Life with out walls." That would actually be interesting if it were true. Vista, has many Walls, and Microsoft has as of yet still has not addressed them. I won't try to turn this into a Vista bashing debate, or a MS bashing debate. It's about the ad's and there well done. Now for Microsoft thumb's up on your advertisement campaign. Now can you actually, Walk the Talk?

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Lindy — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:38:45 GMT

"Isn't it funny that the only people insisting what PC owners feel are the Mac users?

Perhaps arrogance comes with the platform."

Arrogance? How about stupidity on your part? Honestly anyone that feels anything for an OS needs help. Or at least needs to get up from their computer and go outside once a week.

I dont feel anything for OS X or Windows. I just prefer one to the other. They are both tools to get something done. If I won the lottery tomorrow, enough to never have to work again and live in luxury if chose too, my time in front of any computer would drop 90%. There is way more to life than an OS. Or in your case Mike living on this insignificant site.

You should update your resume. Add the following line....

"I pug the @$$ in Jack @$$"

re: Windows: Life without Walls

Master3 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:18:18 GMT

@ shark47

The negative reactions are pouring in:

Only from the usual suspects. No one should be surprised when some "unbiased" tech commentator, or some stupid kid on a messageboard, starts running off at the mouth desperately trying to find something wrong with this ad.

The great thing about these ads are that they are exposing the deranged nature of Apple's most nutcase fanatics. In fact many Mac users have given very positive complements about this, which has only further highlighted the loony nature of these people.

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DRWAM — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:15:27 GMT

Nickle, not even I would pay for the high price of a Mac laptop. For what most people need, any much less expensive Windows laptop will be fine.

Delmont, many devices that are used for care of the human race in the US must be FDA approved. I was told by a vendor [that tried to sell me a $400,000 dual head gamma camera with a Mac G3 in 2001, at least 2 yrs after they stopped making G3's]. that it was tough dealing with the Mac OS because the frequent changes needed reapproval by the FDA. Almost all medical equipment run on XP, some are still using SP1 in fact. That's why Ifind it strange when someone tries to use a Mac with them. Tey are only displaying images on PACS, but monitor calibration with medical grade monitors is paramount. While it works, I wonder how they got FDA approval. Even the software needs approval such as the type of lossless compression used. With older technology, I have seen intracranial hemorrages missed due to bad monitor calibration and poor compression useage. Of course that was long ago, but still NEC medical calibration tool for PC is truly necessary. I would love to use a Mac without bootcamp, but the available apps just aren't necessary since it's all done on XP anyway. Now the processors are the same, so it seems that only a few Mac centric locations exist. While a resurgence is quite possible, the main tools will still be PC's to run the show, while some users will get supported access with a Mac because of good IT staff.

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Dude1313 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:03:12 GMT

Shark, there's "cool kids here"? Looks around :)

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Nickelgreen — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:01:33 GMT

typo: low proces=low cost

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Dipsh t Admin — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:57:27 GMT

From the beginning MS had said that there would be other celebrities involved with the campaign, so having ads now with those celebrities shouldn't surprise anyone.

So, is anyone over on Gruber's site complaining why he is talking about MS so much? ;)

re: Windows: Life without Walls

Nickelgreen — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:56:12 GMT

A friend of mine, switched to macs 3 years ago. He owns a lil macbook which has become very slow with Leopard installed. So he's been thinking to upgrade to a new macbook or a iMac (he likes to chat in the evening from his bed and I can't tell him he's wrong - lol). He's still lured by the low proces of PC notebooks and he's been thinking of switching to Windows pc.

I adviced him to think really a lot about that and I just said him: "Look, you've got so used to mac interface and apps and it would be a pity to get back to Windows even if you like my Vista pc in my home. So maybe you can spare some money and then buy a iMac 24" which I think it's a cool machine for OSX. But clearly a pc notebook will make you save lots of money. It's up to you to decide".

This is how I behave with the few friend using mac I know. I'm not an ideologist. If they ask me, yes, I can tell them why a modern PC with Vista maybe far more productive, but I don't like to annoy them with propaganda. If they switch to Windows I'm happy for them, but if they're happy with their macs, I'm happy for them too.

:-)

re: Windows: Life without Walls

Delmont — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:51:11 GMT

I found these two comments on the ads and I liked these comments:

I kinda like this ad. It lets people know that PC users are pretty much everyone, everywhere, and capable of doing everything. It's completely not arrogant. The Mac ads make PC users look like they're creatively inept and disabled. However, where do they go from there?

"Hi, I'm a PC. I feed starving children, bring rare animals from the brink of extinction, and I approve presidential campaign messages." I think they should stop here with this type of ad and move on to something else because it can't possibly get any better without delivering low blows like Mac ads do.

Second comment:

It works even better when you realize that every one of those people is exactly who they say they are. They are themselves instead of actors playing machines. Best bit is Deepok's.

Bit of an aside, the man who said he studies genes is Dr. Pedro Lowenstein of UCLA and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. He may not mean much to most, but to those in his circle, it can mean quite a lot. Now think about all the other "unknowns" in there and wonder just who they were and who is in their sphere of recognition.

As for me, I like the style of marketing that promotes the product in a positive way on it's own merits. Not by slamming the competition and/or by slamming your competition's customers.

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DRWAM — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:41:19 GMT

I here Nickle. For work, Exchange is wonderful, but it is also great for PIM. MS did a nice job with Entourage and offered rebates making it under $50. Now with windows Live, and even the iPhone, I find Windows just getting more useful for my personal needs.

I own a 2 yr old Mac Pro Tower, which will last a very long time. Although it runs Vista very well, I wish to replace my home built PC soon. Since I already have a Mac that will run for a few more years, I doesn't make sense to buy another Mac since I can build a nice Vista beast for much less. I just like fancy cases. I do find it strange when people [writers] marvel at the case appearance of the Mac Pro since I come from an old Italian family, and it reminds me of the cheese grater that we used when I was a kid. Go figure!

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shark47 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:40:16 GMT

The negative reactions are pouring in:

news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10045505-75.html

Well, not really pouring in ... I guess. But my gut feeling is that the reaction will be largely negative.

Anyway, Doc, I don't have a problem with Mac users who mind their own business and don't insult me by constantly telling me I'm on an inferior platform. The marketshare statistic comes up because of this. I have a couple of friends who own and love their Macs. But they don't feel the need to constantly harp about OS Xs superiority. They like their Macs. I like my PC. That's about it. On the other hand, some commentators here have this delusion of superiority. They believe that they're smarter than the others because they switched to a superior platform and they make it a point to let everyone here know about the way they feel. Apple's ads, the drooling press, and Jobs' keynotes only serve to amplify that feeling. That's what p*sses me off.

Ocean, on the other hand, is just a wannabe, wanting to hang out with the "cool kids".

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Nickelgreen — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:27:00 GMT

@DRWAM

1) Thanks for caring for the lack of zune service in Italy. The fact that irritates me a lil' bit is that I can't even access the marketplace. But I'm patient and I know eventually the service will be on here too.

2) I think that people like you are really cross-platform people who simply takes the best from both worlds without any ideology. I myself would keep a partition with OSX on my pc, but, as you know, in 2008 it's still impossible. It's possible the reverse but there's a slight difference as you can well imagine.

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DRWAM — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:03:59 GMT

OK, obviously, because of Outlook and Windows Live, I'm using Windows at home more and more. I didn't want you guys thinking that I was lying about being a Mac owner since I bee discussing the above a bit.

Doc