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DRWAM — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:18:38 GMT

I'm a Mac user too, but I am finding it hard to see a difference betwen the two OSes as an average user. However, I'm am very please that affordable options are available [with Vista] for those with low incomes, and the technology work very well. It's the consumer advocate in me.

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subzerohitman721 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:26:33 GMT

I've used both StarOffice and OpenOffice.org for quite a few years when Microsoft Office was too costly in my college days. Both are very strong and rocksolid alternatives to MS Office, I just think the polish and dominance of MS Office makes it too hard to pass up. Granted there are other suites out there that all do a great job and OpenOffice.org is one of them. Also, there the free download part, which is great. However, MS Office is as ubiquitous as Band Aid brand for adhesive bandage. You mention an office suite in generic terms and 90% of folks think MS Office.

Howevery, the reason why I've moved away from OpenOffice.org was that its performance in previous versions was terrible. Its dependancy on Java really doesn't help matters here. I've even read complaints about the net that this is still somewhat true even in 3.0. It will be interesting to see where the reviewers and benchmark testing justify this criticism. However, since our family has a nurse, dental assistant, IT professional, and many other jobs in professional organizations, OpenOffice.org is woefully insufficent in all these places that natively use MS Office.

That wouldn't ever stop me from somebody who needed for a small business or for college. IMO, its right near MS Office but still a step or two behind it. However, if there is a major performance boost out of the newest version, I would proudly use it.

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Delmont — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:16:59 GMT

DRWAM:

You go! I'm fed up with these Mac users coming here and telling me how Vista sucks and Vista blows and Vista crashes and now their new rant is because of this thread Office2007. And now according to them Office2007 sucks too.

Well, like you I have a 5 year ( in 2 months ) old Dell Dimension 9100, 2gig ram, and Vista Enterprise and Office2007 run GREAT!

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PatriotB6007 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:38:12 GMT

I'm permanently biased against OpenOffice due to a terrible experience I had with StarOffice (commercial predecessor of OpenOffice) back in one of the Solaris labs in college 6 years ago.

I had a spreadsheet containing I believe 32K rows (the max) and 2 columns of numerical data. I inserted a graph of the data. It took several minutes to create and draw the graph, and you could see the graph slowly draw itself on the screen. 475 MB of virtual memory was being used by the process. Saving to disk took several minutes.

Eventually I gave up and used Excel 2002 on my own computer. It was lightning fast and used nowhere near as much RAM.

One would hope that OO has improved since then, but that was such an awful experience that I frankly don't have any desire to even try it.

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DRWAM — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:15:24 GMT

Gorath, my cheapo $400 laptop has a Core Duo T3200 2GHz CPU. It's not a Core 2 Duo, and certainly is not slow with Office 2007. Did I say it was only $400?

Bad news, Paul the fish died. It was one of my favorites. Since I was a little bummed out, I bought 3 small goldfish that I believe are Sarasa comets, and again named one Paul. I had to pick two more names, so I picked the guys that posted more help for me, so please don't be offended if you were not chosen. The chosen ones were Mike and Waethorn. You have been [temporarily] immortalized in my personal mini fish tank [the kids have their own]. They are small, but healthy. What do you want for 12 cents each? I wil get more, so you too can be part of the collective if you post help for me. What an honor, eh?

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CompactDstrxion — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:06:54 GMT

2007 is slow on certain operations for me. For example inserting a footer, the templates for the footer take absolutely ages to load.

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gorath — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:03:56 GMT

Bettieblu, I have only used office 2007 on very fast workstations, so I can't really comment, although it did load very quickly on those machines, just like everything else did.

Currently, I'm running officeXP and outlook2003, and both fire up very very quickly compared to OO.

This is only my experience though, your mileage may vary, as they say.

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DRWAM — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:54:25 GMT

MS Office 2007 is not slow on my cheapo $400 laptop... Jeepers, I love talking about it until you're all ill! It makes more business for me. I just did not care for the OOO UI. Office 2007 took time to like, but I like it. BTW, Vista SP1 setup with my wireless g network pretty darn well, and shared USB printer on an XP box too...on my cheapo $400 laptop:)

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bettieblu — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:20:27 GMT

Slow...Office 2007 is slow as well. I down graded my work PC from 2007 to 2003 because 2007 is so slow. This is on a Windows XP T61 notebook with 2GIG of ram. I have lots of word docs and spread sheets, none very large all used daily with information I use a lot. Opening Word 2003 vs 2007 is night and day different.

OO is good enough but with out 100% office compatibility is will force people to pirate MS Office or buy student version when they dont qualify. MS has document lock and no one wants to go through mass conversion if they dont have to.

Oh Office 2008 is the slowest Office hands down.

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Ocean — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:52:16 GMT

Heres another I came across on reddit:

>>To be clear: If you are considering buying a commercial office suite, don't do it until you have given OpenOffice.org a shot. That's particularly true of the new version, which was released today. OpenOffice.org 3.0 is a significant upgrade and, again, is completely free.

If, after using it for a while, you don't think it meets your needs, you can always uninstall it and buy a commercial product. But I suspect most users will find it's more than adequate for their needs, and the price can't be beat. Taking the time to give it a test drive could save you a bundle.

The polish and new capabilities of OpenOffice.org 3.0 make this a winner. <<

blogs.chron.com/.../openofficeorg_becomes_an_even_better_alternat_1.html

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gorath — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:19:43 GMT

Ocean, I have to concurr with others on here that OO is very slow to load. I tried it most recently about 6 months ago, and it was still the case.

I have no problems with it as software, though, and I frequently reccomend it to people who probably don't need all of MS office. I also used OO myself for a number of years, until work-related issues meant I needed MS office.

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Ocean — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:10:57 GMT

The Office Suite works well, and I'd encourage everyone to try it for themselves and on their own documents.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:48:32 GMT

Interesting comment on "open standards" in Ocean's comment.

They've got support for Microsoft's old, proprietary format working fine but they can't get Microsoft's fully documented "open standard", XML based format working even though it's been out almost as long as they've been working on this version.