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re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

Waethorn — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:32 GMT

"Google is your friend"

Google is NEVER your friend. You must suck at IT security.

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

Delmont — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:32:22 GMT

Bettie,

Again you're priceless with your comments.

One last time, it's all about support. And it's all about supporting and providing a service to your customer. You ever have a customer? See I have. And you don't go to your customer and tell them to screw off and use some other piece of software just cause you want to, just cause you think it's cool or for any other reasons of caprice. See in business, it's about being productive, saving money and thus generating revenue. And you don't do that by worrying, spending time, resouces on about supporting non standard software. Pure and simple.

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

fauntleroy — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:22:39 GMT

Paul, are you sure you meant 'expediency'?

Expedient: convenient and practical, although possibly improper or immoral

You probably just wanted to *expedite* things (make something happen sooner or be accomplished more quickly).

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:12:47 GMT

The updated Microsoft Software+Services website is now live at www.microsoft.com/softwareplusservices

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:21:41 GMT

bettie

You were the one laughing out loud at the possibility that Safari and Chrome might be different despite both using (different versions of) Webkit. If it wasn't that you were showing contempt for someone presenting facts you disliked, what was so funny about that?

(Your statement of said hilarity was "Lol works with chrome which is Webkit (safari engine) but not in Safari??"

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bettieblu — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:30:49 GMT

JHC you are weird Mike. Did I offend or slander people that use a particular web browser, even those poor Safari users?????????????????? Weird just plane weird.

The only thing I think is funny, fraking hilarious really, is that the Vista hardware compatibility site can only be viewed by IE or Chrome, not Safari or FF3. There is zero reason for that other than trying to lock people into IE.

Oh I will apologize now to the Opera fans out there that I did not test with O9:)

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mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:42:22 GMT

bettie

Hard to see why you're laughing, there are quite a few compatibility differences between Chrome and Safari despite being based on similar engines and few of those are that funny (at least not to people stuck using them)

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bettieblu — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:23:56 GMT

Lol works with chrome which is Webkit (safari engine) but not in Safari??

Not supported or wont run some all of it? Quite a difference. Lots of stuff is not supported buts works just fine and that is move to on support costs.

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shark47 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:31:56 GMT

Our software is not supported on any browser but IE. Our 5000+ clients haven't complained so far. MS hasn't forced us to use IE, yet we do. We are also switching from Adobe SVG viewer, which is not supported anymore to Silverlight. So, there you go.

By the way, the Vista hardware compatibility site works in Chrome. Go figure.

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:13:26 GMT

To actually get back on topic...

Mary Jo Foley has: Microsoft’s Azure cloud platform: A guide for the perplexed

blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft

BetaNews has: PDC 2008 FAQ: What is Windows Azure and why should you care?

www.betanews.com/.../1225134109

and PDC 2008: First look at 'Dublin,' .NET for the cloud

www.betanews.com/.../1225139070

And most of the "We claim to cover all things tech but really only talk about things in the Valley" sites are doing their 10th editorial about whether Apple dropping FireWire from the MacBook is good or bad...

It's interesting to watch...

re: PDC 2008: Microsoft Unveils the Windows Azure Cloud OS

bettieblu — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:56:40 GMT

Yeah clueless is such a horrible name, how will you recover??

Did I address your 70 year mother about iTunes alternatives? Wow you have graduated from the school of Mikey spin/logic. Honestly I dont even know if you have a mother, and I would not really care if you did or how old she was or what she uses to listen to music with.....totally OT for the love of Pete.

You had the complaint about iTunes how that has anything to do with MS forcing you to use IE for full Exchange and Sharepoint functionality??? Oh I know Mikey , rule #2 when you cant answer the direct complaint, bring Apple into the conversation and bash them. Again you dont like iTunes, there are alternatives for your iPod, Google is your friend. Or buy a Zune, neither of which have any link to MS forcing you to use IE for some of their products.

Back on topic. I said....

"Sure IE is just fine for internal use of OWA since I can control the browser users use." As in in a corporation PC are locked down and I know that my users will have IE and not something else. Standard corporate image, users are not Admins, everything gets pushed via SMS/SCCM or other competing products, pretty standard stuff, for any company with more than 50 users, 10 IMHO.

So my point was the other 98% of people that use OWA from a NON corporate PC over the internet. Those people you CANT control the browser they use (did I not just say this?). MS could make FF (on Windows we are not talking Apple products here) fully compatible with their products. Why dont they? My bank is. In fact I can use FF for every other site I got to, just fine. I personally think they do it to force IE on people, but that is my opinion.

I mean how hard would it be to make the Vista Hardware compatibility list work with FF or other browsers. I go there now with FF on Windows I get.......

winqual.microsoft.com/.../BrowserNotSupported.html

"The Windows Logo'd Products List is currently only compatible with Internet Explorer 6 and above. We apologize for the inconvenience."

Its a only list, my PS3 browser should be able to read it.

Your Nissan comment is the EXACT opposite of what I would like to see. Using your example MS would force Nissan to use IE even if they wanted to use FF.

My point is make it work with all browsers, especially with a web based product. Banks do it, governments do it. The whole WWW works with FF, Safari, Opera. I am not asking MS to make IE not work, just work with more than their product.

If MS is going to create a cloud OS or apps in the cloud and they end up requiring IE only they will fail at that endeavor.