Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

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re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:31:29 GMT

"Wow they gave you the Pro version, you could join it to a domain!! RDP to it, put a SMS client on it and push software!"

That's all stuff that's included in Vista Business - without the added security.

"I give you 4 links, with what 30?? Possible Netbooks that you can buy and you find the one that comes with a Vista license but has XP installed."

That's how HP sells almost all of their business class notebook systems. All of the software discs are included with business class machines - XP x86, Vista x86, even Vista x64.

"May I suggest www.rif.org it will greatly help you out in life. Must be those schools in Canada."

LOL! *snort*

An american company. I guess that's where you got your grade 3 grammar curriculum from.

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Lindy — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:17:59 GMT

From your link....

"Other features include 92% full-size QWERTY keyboard, Vista Business licence wiht XP Pro installed, touchpad, built-in stereo speakers and VGA webcam."

Wow they gave you the Pro version, you could join it to a domain!! RDP to it, put a SMS client on it and push software!

I give you 4 links, with what 30?? Possible Netbooks that you can buy and you find the one that comes with a Vista license but has XP installed. Pure genius.

May I suggest www.rif.org it will greatly help you out in life. Must be those schools in Canada.

"LIAR" are you Paul's brother?

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:04:37 GMT

"My only real comments in this thread are the fact that no one runs Vista/Windows 7 on the current crop of Netbooks unless of course they like that kind of pain. I just gave 4 links to common places that sell them and none of them sell one with Vista. All of them are XP home or a distro of Linux."

To reuse a phrase: "LIAR!"

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:45 GMT

"Is that why most netbooks come with XP or Linux and the very reason XP was extended by MS?"

To coin a phrase, "ten seconds of research" (actually it was less than that):

www.bestbuy.ca/.../proddetail.asp

(it was the 4th one in the list)

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Lindy — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:44:01 GMT

I live in the US. Delmont has spewed his right wing, neocon dribble many times. He is super easy to set off. Its fun:)

My only real comments in this thread are the fact that no one runs Vista/Windows 7 on the current crop of Netbooks unless of course they like that kind of pain. I just gave 4 links to common places that sell them and none of them sell one with Vista. All of them are XP home or a distro of Linux.

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Dipsh t Admin — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:34:32 GMT

Lindy, interesting correlation here. Many on the Mac side complain about a PC guy writing about Windows, but here, you are a UK'er talking about American politics...

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:33:56 GMT

"Should I say "Web" or "The Web"? As in "Solutions for Web" or "Solutions for the Web" for a brochure I'm making."

You should say "Greasing the Intertubes".

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Lindy — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:32:50 GMT

@Weathorn "Sorry, but that's just not true."

Is that why most netbooks come with XP or Linux and the very reason XP was extended by MS? Cant find Vista on any of these...

www.target.com/.../190-6650974-5426116

www.newegg.com/.../SubCategory.aspx

www.shopping.hp.com/.../cto.do;HHOJSID=LTtzJJ2VZdRyxQJkhbddn92q9Cvnn97fhqjnQXJG2PypGB2bT06D!328627536

Maybe you can link us to your shop where you sell Netbooks with Vista on them, I bet you are making a killing!

www.bestbuy.com/.../olspage.jsp

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Lindy — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:24:00 GMT

Delmont should you not be in that short line for McSame early voters? Or maybe you are and your using your iPhone to post here?

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Mum — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:26 GMT

"The tired Apple fanatic cliche that Apple invented everything and everyone just uses it in their own products. So I gave him a list of stuff that other people invented, and wondered why Apple was using it if they didnt create it."

Of course it happens both ways. I'd also say these newly published Windows7 features sound strangely familiar to someone who's been a Mac OS X user for some time but then OS X has started to resemble Windows in so many ways lately (possibly to make switchers feel more at home but unfortunately also alienating some present users in the process) that the whole discussion is not worth anything.

[One OT question to you native english speakers... Should I say "Web" or "The Web"? As in "Solutions for Web" or "Solutions for the Web" for a brochure I'm making. This one brit told me the latter is correct but then I see a "Save for web" menu option in Photoshop. Thanks!]

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:06:41 GMT

"And the Windows section will be filled with useless and factually incorrect information."

With subtext by Leo. *snicker*

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

shark47 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:58:46 GMT

"PS: Did I mention Vista runs great on my 3 year old Dell and I drive a Jag XJ6?"

Yes, you did. Doc, mention your $400 laptop. STAT!

"True, that. Even fanboi Pogue's Windows books outsell those "Secret" books written by Windows "experts". ;-)"

I haven't read the book, but as long as every chapter is not filled with a "or you can switch to a Mac", it might be useful to people. Of course, Goatberg would probably have 80% of the chapters and content dedicated to Macs and the rest to Windows in his Windows book. (Don't know if he's already written one; don't care.) And the Windows section will be filled with useless and factually incorrect information.

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Waethorn — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:55:11 GMT

"I just want to see XP SP3, Vista SP1/SP2?, Windows 7, OS X 10.5, OS X 10.6 do a file copy test to a Windows 2003 server test. Say a CD's worth of 5000 files. Right now Vista is in last place."

It would seem that it's Server 2003 that's causing the issue:

msmvps.com/.../unscientific-but-wow.aspx

msmvps.com/.../the-top-ten-wow-s-of-sbs-2008.aspx

"Sure you just need to do the following, turn of indexing, turn off search, turn off automatic defrag, turn off Aero, go all the way down to classic mode, turn off the sidebar, turn off system restore and turn off UAC."

Sorry, but that's just not true. Did I mention I build Atom based nettops with 1GB of RAM? They run Vista fully. They even support Aero. Lowest performance score is 2.5 (for video, which is based on the GMA 950). The rest of the scores are in the high 4's. Did I also mention that the motherboard runs (and includes) a fanless CPU and costs less than $80US, has dual-core and hyperthreading too?

"At that point you have XP and it will run like a champ on that netbook."

LOL! Who the f* would want XP now, considering the security on it, and systems run Vista perfectly? Ya, I'm sure you were saying the same about Windows 2000 about 2 years into XP's release too.

"I have a buddy that just bought two Dells today for his office, a Vostro 220 and a new Latitude E something and on both he paid the XP tax, $99 to have XP preloaded."

Much like lottery tickets, it's a voluntary tax for the stupid.

"Well, unless Apple wanted to create boring, lame and tasteless operating systems. Then, and only then, would they be worried."

They do. And they are.

"At least I can finally watch H.264 videos on Windows"

"*snort*"

I'll take that as an obvious admission that iTunes is a PoS. :)P

"OS X is hardly revolutionary. Evolutionary, to be sure. But come on...you don't need to be so hyperbolic."

That's better.

re: Live from PDC 2008: Day 3

Delmont — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:50:08 GMT

Hey Lindy:

Give it a rest.

Isn't appleinsider, or macrumors or some other mac web page calling you home?

PS: Did I mention Vista runs great on my 3 year old Dell and I drive a Jag XJ6?