Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

gorath — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:28:08 GMT

oh, and for the record, I do think that hotmail is a silly name for a service/address, but no worse than Gmail or Yahoo.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

gorath — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:25:25 GMT

robertsjoe, I think what you mean is they you like the interface of Gmail more than the others.

And why is Gmail such a great name when hotmail is not?

I've always imagined that Gmail would be a shorthand for men seeking men in personal ads. Maybe someone here could confirm that!

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

robertsjoe — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:50:32 GMT

GMail has a much better interface than the other competing webmail services. Not to mention the terrible name that is HotMale. Just not a good name. Hi, I'm Steve@hotmale.com. AOL is a better option. And that's saying something.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

techfan — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:21:30 GMT

Why do you need to pay for the premium version of Hotmail to use with the iPhone?

I don't know what it is, but there's something "fun" (for lack of a better word) about Gmail but I am not a big fan of using it on the web. There's something that just doesn't work, something is missing.

Gmail with POP3 and WLMail is the only way to go.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

DRWAM — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:02:22 GMT

Gmail works well on iPhone, but is limited, but Gmail through the web is crap. I'm thinking of paying for the premium [or whatever it's called] Hotmail to use on the iPhone, although there are free services that require your Hotmail password, which doesn't give a lot of comfort, of course. I'm getting closer to switching, as son as I dump Comcast for FiOS, and Outlook syncs with WLmail.

Mike found the sync app for Gmail and Outlook for me, so I'm good until the above is achieved.

Thanks again Mike.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

techfan — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:10:06 GMT

@DRWAM: Yep. Out of Yahoo!, Google and Microsoft, MS is doing some nice-looking Web apps. I don't use WLHotmail, but I think it looks nicer than the spartan look of Gmail and the okay-looking but something is missing look of Yahoo! Mail.

I'm on a 3.0 MB connection, slow for some, I guess, but it's good enough for me, and have noticed that a few times I have had to refresh the page for either WLCal or Hotmail to load. I don't know if it's because I'm using IE8 Beta 2 (ironic if two of MS' products aren't playing well with each other) or something else, but Yahoo! Mail loads faster.

LOL, with all the Windows Live-branded products, it's easy getting into the habit of just typing the first two letter and then a shorthand of the last. I'm sure it's going to get worst once more products come out.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

DRWAM — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:06:42 GMT

Techfan, I like the alphabet soup. I have notice some speed difference in loading, although it's not slow enough for me to care as it's only a second or three. I just like the WLCal look better, even there there's not much difference to the look. But the relate WL services such as Mesh and SkyDrive. I don't use hotmail since the iPhone doesn't support it or visa versa.

Thanks Mike. Now I feel accepted.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

techfan — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:51:58 GMT

@mikegalos: That's great! If Windows 7 comes out next year, I'll buy a new PC and will change my 17" flat panel for a 21" widescreen. I think the three panel look, like in Outlook and Windows Live Mail (email-client) works great in those monitors.

@Waethorn: And I thought the the only bad thing I've gotten from this site were popups. Luckily IE8 Beta 2 has been able to stop them. Strange, I don't remember getting popups before.

@DRWAM: I switched from GCal to WLCal once WLMail came out with a calendar. I like it. One thing that I don't like about WLCal is that it loads slower than GCal.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:50:03 GMT

OT but...

You can now buy your own "I'm a PC" t-shirts, mugs, hats, skateboards, etc at http://www.zazzle.com/imapc

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:24:25 GMT

DRWAM

I believe we've long ago reached consensus that you discussing your $400 Acer Vista laptop is always On Topic.

I think the decision had something to do with surrendering to the inevitable. :-)

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

DRWAM — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:14:20 GMT

Gents, I have both the Google and Windows Live Calendar side by side and Live just wins hands down. There are more options and they are easier to use. However, Google does have a utility to sync with Outlook that works well. I need to export a file from Outlook, then import it to Live Calender, which is cumbersome, but it's beta right now. Therefore, I would expect the ability to sync in the near future.

Of note, there is a $10 iPhone app that syncs the Google calendar and has a monthly view with text, but I would bet that I'm one of the few that use such a view. I did not buy it as I have computer access all day [obviously] and Exchange, but the option is nice to have on occasion, and Windows Live wins, IMO.

It even works well on my wide screen $400 Acer Vista laptop :) Mike mentioned wide screen first, so I'm still OT.

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Waethorn — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:55:12 GMT

"A text-based ad scheme would be good."

It doesn't work for Paul. Just last night I could pick up 3 malware-carrying sites rotating through the banner at the top of this one.

re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

mikegalos@msn.com — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:47:00 GMT

techfan

They've been moving the ads to the side instead of the top so they are less obtrusive especially on wide screen monitors.

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re: Windows Live Wave 3: Microsoft completes services picture (sort of)

techfan — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:38:49 GMT

@rjohn05:

Re: Ads - Yep. That's one thing I don't like about Live Calendar. It only has one ad, but it's big and at the top of the cal so it tends to "push down" the bottom end the calendar you someone with a small monitor can't see the bottom of the calendar w/out having to scroll down a bit (I use a 17" but still have to scroll down).

A text-based ad scheme would be good.