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Microsoft Small Basic

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shark47 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:59:14 GMT

Funny, the Small Basic guy started programming on a ZX Sinclair with Sinclair Basic, just like I did. It had a weird way of loading programs where we connected it to the headphone jack of a tape recorder and played the software tape.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:25:16 GMT

panache

Actually, what I've said in this thread is a LOT more arrogant than anything I've said in the other ones.

It just doesn't trip the "Microsoft is evil, attack anyone who doesn't criticize them" alarms that some people seem to have.

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Waethorn — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:50:54 GMT

Programming - BAH! I'm glad I don't do it anymore.

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robertsjoe — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:53:20 GMT

@mikegalos: You really should get paid by MS for your evangelism. Want me to ping Ballmer and let him know? ;)

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panache1023 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:17:39 GMT

Mike,

What I mean is...you are making good lucid points without falling into what most consider your arrogance, and you are talking with a lot of fact, and not so much your opinion which you feel is fact, nor are you on your "MS is the best thing to happen to the Earth" pedestal or something.

Cheers to you.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:06:42 GMT

BTW: To get a little tribute where it's due, I'd like to call out the key team who produced Visual Basic 1.0 - many of whom are almost unknown despite changing the world...

Adam Rauch - Program Manager

Nevet Basker - Product Manager

Scott Ferguson - Dev Lead

Brian Lewis - Developer

Chris Fraley - Developer

Rick Olson - Test Lead

Brian Overland - Lead Writer

(And, of course John Fine and later Tom Button leading the DABU org and Bill Gates for the vision for the product)

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mikegalos@msn.com — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:57:58 GMT

robertsjoe

Actually, I thought that c had more code out there than VB until I saw the numbers.

What you're missing is:

1) The vast, vast, vast majority of computers out there run Windows. Yes, there is c for lots of platforms but 20 niche platforms that add up to .001% of the market don't matter that much, nor do the next 100 that add up to .01%.

2) Most programs in the world are either internal to corporations or are application rather than system level. And the vast majority of those have been in VB since the switch from mainframe COBOL.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:52:19 GMT

panache

"it's nice to see Mike Galos have an intelligent discussion without going of the deep end"

Actually, the stuff I've said on this thread is a LOT less in the "generally accepted" range than the stuff I usually get flamed for here.

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mikegalos@msn.com — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:50:53 GMT

panache

Actually, I'd say it's fair to say that VB.NET wouldn't exist without Visual Basic 1.0 bringing GUI programming into the realm of application level programmers back when it was introduced in 1991 at Comdex/Windows World in Atlanta. That product changed the world of programming.

For a good description of those days, the only good history I've seen is Scott Ferguson's article "Thunder: The Birth of Visual Basic" which is on his website at www.forestmoon.com/.../BIRTHofVB.html which is a must read for anybody interested in how VB got created.

(I still have my Thunder desk clock and team t-shirt from back then)

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shark47 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:48:17 GMT

"See, the thing about VB.NET is that it *PROBABLY* wouldn't have a place to on this Earth if it wasn't for VB6 to begin with"

Same with C++. There wouldn't be C++ if it hadn't been for C. :-)

Anyway, VB.Net made it easier for people to write Windows applications. And I can still do most of the work in C and use VB as the front end. I think that's pretty cool. It helped me get my PhD, so why will I complain? :-)

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robertsjoe — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:16:41 GMT

@panache1023: I do not hate Mike. Not at all. I take this as fun banter. Them's not fighting words. I simply disagree with Mike's statement that there's more VB code out there than C. Find it very hard to believe. That's all. There's no hate there.

Mike, if you think I hate you (not that you'd probably care), I don't. It's simply like I said, with the years head start, the fact that virtually every OS ever released, in embedded systems, mobile phones; all of them having C compilers - I think C would have an enormous lead on the amount of code out there.

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panache1023 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:43:38 GMT

Robertsjoe,

Seriously man...what is your deal....yes everyone knows you love Mac and hate Windows...fine.

Everyone knows you hate Mike Galos (or at least like to go after him)...hell, I like to go after him too...but geez man! The guy said nothing wrong and you start attacking him about "his beloved" OS and Office or whatever......

Dude.......you need to get a grip.....

PS I like my Mac :)

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panache1023 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:42:11 GMT

See, the thing about VB.NET is that it *PROBABLY* wouldn't have a place to on this Earth if it wasn't for VB6 to begin with...that VB6 -> VB.NET wizard only exists so that all those lines of VB6 code could HOPEFULLY be "upgraded" to something more modern...

either way, regardless of your choices of programming language, it's nice to see Mike Galos have an intelligent discussion without going of the deep end (yet)...

CHEERS Mike Galos.....CHEERS!