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re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:48:34 GMT

"In May 1991, the company released Mach8, its first product able to process graphics without the CPU"

en.wikipedia.org/.../ATI_Technologies

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:34:52 GMT

"Bettie, the very few cards that fully support the 2D window accelerator functions will run XP at full resolution, with full colour depth even with no drivers installed. However, these cards are rare."

Rare??????????? WTF are you talking about?? Do you have $25?

www.newegg.com/.../Product.aspx

Gorath I have come to the conclusion you are complete idiot. I send you that link and you still dont get it. It spells it out clear as day. I cant believe this is even disputable?????? The sky is blue by the way.

Here from Intel, the GMA 950 can do 2048x1536 at 75 Hz maximum resolution, 2D accelerated and that is a notebook GPU from 2006.

www.intel.com/.../index.htm

That would pretty much cover 99% of all monitors out there right now at that GPU is 3 years old.

Here is their latest Integrated GPU....

"The Intel® G45 Express Chipset, with the next-generation Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD (Intel® GMA X4500HD), includes built-in support for full 1080p high-definition video playback, including Blu-ray* disc movies. This powerful video engine provides users with a rich, new media experience to deliver smooth HD playback without the need for add-in video cards or decoders. Intel® GMA X4500HD comes with Intel® Clear Video Technology, a combination of video processing hardware and software technologies designed to enhance the visual experience."

So that GPU not only maxes out 2D, but if you install their codec/driver the GPU will handle BR decoding. That GPU is probably targeted at media center PC's.

Full 2D acceleration at 1600x1200 was capable under Windows 98 with Vesa Local Bus cards, as in VLB, prior to PCI, prior to AGP and now PCIE. 2D windows desktop speed was maxed out 10 years ago. Word can only draw so fast.

3D is another story. DirectX8 and then 9 battled OpenGL and Microsoft won the battle. Only the very latest Intergrated GPU's GMA 950 and above fully support DX9 and even then they are not gaming GPU's.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

gorath — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:36:18 GMT

Bettie, the very few cards that fully support the 2D window accelerator functions will run XP at full resolution, with full colour depth even with no drivers installed. However, these cards are rare.

some FireGL, Quadros, and (IIRC, all) Matrox cards can do this.

However, it's not the case with general consumer cards, where running them with "standard VGA" drivers gives terrible performance, because they don't support the function calls.

So, yeah, XP could support hardware acceleration of certain functions, but this isn't quite the same as having a hardware compositied and rendered gui.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

DRWAM — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:26:24 GMT

And the perfect match for Vista and speed freaks is 'AMD gets Phenom II to 6.3 GHz'. This will handle Windows Live Sync migration pretty quickly.

www.theinquirer.net/.../amd-gets-phenom-ii-ghz

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

robertsjoe — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:23:29 GMT

"No Mike I said SHOW US PROOF to your comment."

You will find it hard to get Mike to show proof to his comments. They are just let out like machine gun fire, without ever looking back or backing them up.

Like when he said Microsoft don't lie in ads. They did.

Like when he said that there's more VB code than any other in the world. Had nothing to back that up. I still would find it extremelly hard to believe. C would be king in that arena.

Yeah, proof, who needs it. Right, Mike? ;)

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

beaker — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:01:48 GMT

they change it because they don't think what they currently have is good enough.. but, it is good.. enough.. they are the leader.. they need to stop worrying about the competition because the competition isn't really competition..

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:46:45 GMT

Beaker the irony, I am in the same boat, and our MCSE is now called a MCITP with 2008. Why they changed it?

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

beaker — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:28:50 GMT

I sincerely try to keep all this stuff straight. Why can't they be consistent with a product name? I'm a MCSE 2003 and getting ready to upgrade to MCSE 2008. That should show that I'm committed to their products but constantly confusing people will not get them ahead of the competition... it is really like they aren't able to communicate within the company and everyone has the next great idea.. (idea=new product name for something they are already doing).

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DRWAM — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:27:33 GMT

Bettie it has Wireless B-G-N, It is back up to $500 after falling to $400 a second time. Black Friday is around the corner.

www.bestbuy.com/.../olspage.jsp

Mike, I put two outside in the garage lights and one died in 3 days. I guess they are not meant for outside.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:05:50 GMT

@DRWAM Windows Aero and Windows Basic look the same in terms of the shape, the rounding of the corners the buttons etc. You don't get glass, thumbnail preview, 3D flip and stuff like that. That 4500M is pretty new and slightly better than the x3100 from Intel, you got a heck of a deal on that notebook. Did it come with wireless N?

Windows Standard or Classic take you back to Window 2000, much less going on there for sure. Windows Standard I think is the Windows server 2003 default, Classic is Windows 2000.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

mikegalos@msn.com — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:02:18 GMT

DRWAM

On the More OT: But still not over here. (I checked last week)

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

DRWAM — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:47:41 GMT

FYI. My $400 laptop has integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M. I have been surfing the web and playing webkinz Flash games on line and don't see any difference with Aero off or on. The Windows experience indexes did not change. At first I thought that the graphics did not look as good without Aero,but I don't think that I can tell the difference.

I also read somewhere that turning Aero off could decrease performance in some cases. I don't remember the source butu what the heck do I know anyway. I would bet that my crude test is not valid anyway. Interesting discussion. Sorta mind boggling in fact due to the disagreement.

More OT. Mike, would you believe that those 99 cent spiral CFL in 13, 20 and 26w are still on sale!!!! The isolated display is a row away from the light section which is selling them for much, much more, including the same GE brand, but different model. Go figure. Well, since you can see above the sheet rock, my wife won't let me replace the recessed lights throughout the first floor.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:44:33 GMT

Lindy's response to you in this thread.

"Since 95+ % of notebooks have Intergrated graphics chips from Intel or ATI most of the time, I am going to go out on a limb and say his $400 Acer notebook has X3100 Intel GPU at best, hardly a 3D GPU in any form. Aero will tax an X3100 more than Windows Standard period. In fact I bet he would get better battery life with out Aero."

I guess Lindy was wrong by 5%, according to the Wiki link. The point is he schooled you. Integrated graphics run on most PC's. Aero vs non Aero on those machines would probably show a performance difference, as they struggle with 3D rendering.

Tool of the year goes Mike Galos.

re: Microsoft finally explains Windows Live Sync migration from FolderShare

bettieblu — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:35:42 GMT

Your link proves even more that Windows XP never used software rendering.

XP used GDI/Direct X and video card drivers to move that. Vista uses DWM and to get that to work with your video card you will need WDDM video driver.

In both cases they use the video card.

So why did you link it?