Macworld 2008 keynote: Initial thoughts

re: Macworld 2008 keynote: Initial thoughts

reunson — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:22:37 GMT

@ Cfischer83

"Seriously... have you not heard? Apple doesn't support beta boot camp on Tiger as of December 31st. No one wants to use unsupported software so people have to upgrade."

While it is true the beta boot camp "installer" has expired, existing installations run fine. Once you have your Windows partition up and running you can trash the boot camp assistant, you don't need it any more.

I (like many others) am still happily booting into Windows while still using Tiger. In fact I'm using the same boot camp partition with Parallels.

In case something goes wrong, I have cloned the Windows partition with Winclone (more beta software).

I even used Winclone to duplicate the Windows boot camp partition from my Mac Pro to my Macbook Pro to use with Parallels.

Both environments are set up to use all my my peripherals, including an Apple airport extreme.

I have not had a single blue screen on Windows XP Pro or Kernal Panic on Tiger on either machine since doing this in October last year. It's been computing nirvana.

That's why I haven't upgraded to Leopard yet, I want the features, but don't want stability/compatibility issues. Hopefully 10.5.2 will solve most issues.

Also, regarding something else you wrote :

"So... since I got my iPod Touch at Costco for Christmas.... I guess there's enough time to take it back and replace it with a new one that has these updates... hmm.... maybe I'll go back to the Zune since MS gives us these (or bigger) updates for free!"

Maybe you should go back to your Zune, but I hope you are a very patient person. You'll be waiting an extremely long time for Microsoft to provide a free update that provides mail, maps, weather, stocks, and notes. Or for that matter a web browser, online music purchases and a multitouch interface.

And lastly to Paul

"Jobs claims that the iPhone garnered 19.5 percent of US smart phone market in its first 90 days on the market, second behind RIM with 39 percent. Which his interesting, since Windows Mobile actually outsells RIM: According to Apple's chart, Microsoft isn't even on the list (though "Other" is at 21.2 percent). Cute."

Those market share numbers were divided up by hardware manufacturers. That's why Window's mobile doesn't appear on the list. Convenient for Apple I know, but that's the reason.

re: Macworld 2008 keynote: Initial thoughts

Cfischer83 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:03:05 GMT

@rameeti

He did, check out his update to his review here: www.winsupersite.com/.../iphone_08.asp

re: Macworld 2008 keynote: Initial thoughts

Cfischer83 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:01:15 GMT

@ lotsacrap

Seriously... have you not heard? Apple doesn't support beta boot camp on Tiger as of December 31st. No one wants to use unsupported software so people have to upgrade. I'm assuming you're a mac user by your pretentious attitude and inferiority, I-must-hate-everyone-who-criticizes-things-I-like complex... I'm surprised you didn't know that.

By "assuming" I guess I'm just making an "@ss" out of "u" and "ming"... and since I don't know anyone named Ming, that must be you again.

re: Macworld 2008 keynote: Initial thoughts

rameeti — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:06:38 GMT

What I'd like to know is if Paul has given the iPhone any points for being getting its software upgraded over time? Certainly he could have originally said that it was only something that could be done and without evidence that it would happen, it should garner any points for a possibility. But now that he sees that the iPhone not only can but is being given new features over time, I'd like to see how his other 'favorites' have been doing with getting new features since their inititial release.

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sayguh — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:52:13 GMT

"Apple has a software feature called Remote Disk for "borrowing" the optical drive from another Mac"

You can "borrow" from a PC as well

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lotsamystuff — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:16:37 GMT

"Cfischer83" spouts this nonsense:

"Yes, but remember that a lot of mac users are using Windows, so when Apple turned all of Tiger's Boot Camps off, all those people had to upgrade if they wanted to use Windows!"

WTF?

That is the most ignorant thing I've read all week, and believe me, that's a challenge. Apple did not turn "all of Tigers Boot Camps off". If you installed Boot Camp under Tiger, it continues to operate exactly as it did before. Not one single person "had to upgrade" to continue using an existing installation.

Before you open your mouth next time, pull your head out of your a$$.

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Cfischer83 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:38:50 GMT

"Apple sold 5 million copies of Leopard in 2007, "the most successful year for Mac OS X ever." That is actually quite a feat. Microsoft sold just 100 million Vista licenses in 2007"

Yes, but remember that a lot of mac users are using Windows, so when Apple turned all of Tiger's Boot Camps off, all those people had to upgrade if they wanted to use Windows!

So... since I got my iPod Touch at Costco for Christmas.... I guess there's enough time to take it back and replace it with a new one that has these updates... hmm.... maybe I'll go back to the Zune since MS gives us these (or bigger) updates for free!

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JuryDuty — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:31:58 GMT

I think what's interesting about the Air is the move it's making to be completely media-free. This is the direction we all know computing is heading in the future, and if anything, Apple may just be a tad too early to market with it.

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bluvg — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:24:03 GMT

Well, it's obvious Apple is still up to its old tricks in claiming the MacBook Air is "the World's Thinnest Laptop" at .76". Forget about the .62" Sharp from a couple years ago... forget about Intel's upcoming .7" laptop... forget about Toshiba's .77" laptop (only .01" thicker, yet does not sacrifice the optical drive, 2.5" hard drives rather than the horrible-performing 1.8" models, is nearly half the weight at 1.72 lbs. in the SSD flavor, and better battery life). Oh, it's revolutionary, I'm sure.

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kellymjones — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:03:14 GMT

@Jello -- Yikes.

@cesjr -- Same thoughts. It's thin and light, but I'd rather have something with smaller dimensions. I'm not so worried about lack of ports and expandability.

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Jelloitsalive12 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:51:51 GMT

Also, the MacBook air lacks a user-replaceable battery according to engadget. No deal for me.