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re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

darkmax — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:24:08 GMT

You know what?... For those who say speed is not important, try being in the situation where you are trying to beat your soon-to-be ex-wife in transferring out your only accopunt not listed in the pre-nup.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

LynxMukka — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:56:59 GMT

ROFL, believing that is hilarious.

Everyone knows Chrome is now the fastest, with Firefox coming in second.

I've had no experience with Safari, but its basically a joke anyway.

I have IE8 RC2 and it's still the slowest out of the 3 I have.

Sorry but I reckon whoever did that study was getting paid by Microsoft. =/

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

subzerohitman721 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:32:36 GMT

@Lindy,

The reason why I do not use Firefox or Safari, is that sometimes it doesn't render pages properly. Perhaps part of it is due to the MS IE coding. However, since most operators now are coding for Firefox/Safari, I still from time to time have that issue. I've had a Safari browser 3 that couldn't render Apple.com right. I've had Firefox browsers that have difficulty with email pages. I've had Firefox lockup on machines I was using more so than IE7. IE nails those pages accurately more times than not speaking from my own experiences.

However, I do not begrudge you your choice. IE has its pitfalls. I choose to accept them. But I'm very careful where I browse and what I activate within IE.

I for one am very glad for both Safari, Firefox, and Chrome. They have served as a check and a balance to Microsoft. This is definitely needed. I'd rather have business along with some government intervention than Microsoft running unchecked with no governemnt intervention.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

Dipsh t Admin — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:26:13 GMT

"Of course they said that Exchange 12 was going to use SQL...finally and of course that did not happen either."

They tried it and it failed performance wise. So they didn't pursue it further.

Of course, since we are talking about RenderMan and Pixar, we should not forget the products by NewTek, such as Lightwave in 1988 and the Video Toaster in 1990 that set the stage for low cost production exclusively on the Amiga OS.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

Lindy — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:11:36 GMT

@truffoo0 I sat and listened to MS specifically say that Exchange 12 (2007) was going to bring "Browser Bliss" for OWA on non MS browsers...that day never came. Of course they said that Exchange 12 was going to use SQL...finally and of course that did not happen either.

Exchange 14 better be a huge improvement over 2007 that is all I got to say.

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re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

truffoo0 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:52:10 GMT

Interesting new article on WindowsITPro.com regarding browsers:

"Exchange 14 Brings Browser Bliss" (InstantDoc #101686).

OWA premium on Exchange 14 looks like it'll be supported on IE, Firefox and Safari. About time really (even though I use IE7), but it shows how things are changing.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

truffoo0 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:47:54 GMT

@chipwinter - If that's true, then why are Apple saying that Safari is whatever times faster than IE? If Apple says it's important, then it must be ;-)

I'd actually suggest that other browser makers are more set on performance than Microsoft, hence why Microsoft make the video to show that IE8 is right up there but state that it's not about performance anyway.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

chipwinter — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:12:03 GMT

The only time when speed is important as a browser feature is when Microsoft is the fastest.

All other times, speed doesn't really matter.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

truffoo0 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:03:11 GMT

@benjwah

Having a transparent methodology is great, and it helps to at least accept the findings within the context of the study (and that they've treated all products fairly). But as I said earlier, any study (and I'm talking non-IT ones as well) only needs to set the context in a certain way to get the results that they want to.

It's much the same as statistics are used. Any particular survey can end with desired results based on how you ask the questions or group/interpret the responses. An example, 70% of respondents who were classified as "good citizens" (non-criminals, druggies, etc) were taken camping when they were kids. Therefore, if a govenment legislates that everyone has to go camping, then there will be less crime. Of course, what isn't taken into account is the parental attitude that really affects the kids which also favours camping. Not a good example for the browser performance study, but an example of how you can play with study context and/or results to get the answer you want.

re: Microsoft: IE 8 is often faster than Firefox, Chrome or Safari

truffoo0 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:54:15 GMT

@DRWAM - I think so too ;-)

Security and functionality are the real differentiators between browsers.

Splitting security out into 2 categories, there is the inherrant security of the browser itself, and the ease of patching/updates.

For a company, IE has a hugely simplified patching/update process. Just run a WSUS server and point every computer to it. Then the only issue is to watch out for Zero-Day vulnerabilities. To date, I haven't seen any really good patching/update process from Firefox/Chrome/Safari that can match it.

Of course, the number of IE installations creates a big target that continually get's aimed at (and sometimes hit), therefore the update process had better be extremely good. FF seem good at releasing updates but the process itself is painful in a business (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

For home users, this is generally a non-issue because everyone runs as admin so can update FF when it automatically prompts to, and IE should update via Automatic Updates.

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