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shark47 — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:02:46 GMT

"rj, I guess you got your answer with all of the "lame" doctors! LOL."

Mac users never get viruses. What do they care about doctors?

"Are you saying you're just a sock puppet for Lindy"

More like an alter-ego. Slimshadey = lindy = slimshadey. I wonder how many others have created multiple identities here.

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hamiltonstallings — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:01:35 GMT

I think its obvious that Lindy is here to discredit MS. Surely they are wrong because he/she uses Macs.

I guess Linds getting bored since she posts here so much.. Either that or he/she is just rj or a kid.. Both of which I'd believe.

Good luck Lindy.. you know with battling people at a Microsoft website.. lol

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:54:46 GMT

slimshadey,

Waethorn actually accued Lindy of backpedaling. Are you saying you're just a sock puppet for Lindy?

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Dipsh t Admin — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:39:28 GMT

rj, I guess you got your answer with all of the "lame" doctors! LOL.

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slimshadey — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:38:28 GMT

Backpedal?

Here is my comments on VMware....

community.winsupersite.com/.../secret-no-more-revealing-virtual-windows-xp-for-windows-7.aspx

"They dont even compete really. This is purely for application compatibility. If you want more you will run a more full featured VM solution. VMware Workstation blows Virtual PC away, cloning, snap shots, USB, Linux support, ACE images, migration to VMware server or ESX etc. However its not free and totally over kill for what they are trying to achieve here."

So ummm NOOOO I did not say WMware was worth it for this situation at all. Its expensive and over kill for what MS is trying to do with this free XP VM.

Its great for developers or for testing applications and updates on different OS's, because unlike Virtual PC I can easily clone a VM (right click) or take mutiple snap shots and then roll back all of them or just the ones I want to. I can also create a ACE image of my VM and give it to someone to run with the free ACE player, or I can move a VM from VMware workstation to ESX server, as in build a server template on my notebook get it all tweaked out and then move it to a production ESX server. Can you move a Virtual PC VM to Hyper V? Honestly I dont know. You could move it to a MS Virtual Server.

Wae here is a good site for you www.rif.org it will open up a whole new world for you.

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Waethorn — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:51:21 GMT

@Lindy:

Nice way to backpedal. You were originally saying that VMware Workstation is worth the money. I could see many companies that would fire your a$$ now if you recommend it over this option.

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DRWAM — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:46:41 GMT

Actually GE PACS requires IE 6 to view images remotely. IE 7 32 bit does work however, but is not recommended.

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robertsjoe — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:28:45 GMT

What lame person would run IE6?

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DRWAM — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:27:32 GMT

If we can get by a little longer before spending 2 MIL on new transcription software, the younger guys that are buying in to our practice will be happier since the push the expense into the future, rather than now, when they are paying us older guys. Otherwise, they get to pay us older guys and pay for their piece of 2 MIL too. Our computers don't get replaced all at the same time, so IT has plenty of time to do it when needed. I'm talkin' only the business desktops, not the imaging workstations [HP with Xeons]. The workstation must be FDA approved hardware [at least they used to be, and the FDA hasn't gotten any more lax].

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Lindy — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:26:11 GMT

You would be crazy not to patch and run AV on those VM's. In this blog example Paul shows IE6 and NAT from real firewalls do nothing to negate malware when using IE6, so Wae your wrong.

The only way to protect it would be to use local only networking on VPC or essentially no networking. Now that would not work if the app your running in the XP VM needed networking, which is probably the case.

"FCS is cheaper than Symantec and it's easier to manage" Ok but its still double the cost for every 7 box you run this on.

1 + 1 = 2

2 > 1. You getting that Wae?

Like I said what if you use SCCM to push software and inventory those VM's or some other software the requires a end point license, and now each PC needs 2 CAL's.....1 + 1 = 2 or 2 >1.

Weather your running a XP on box, in VM in 7 or in a VDI on ESX, you still need to protect and manage it if its on your network. That is a fact. So my point is, you double your management for every 7 machine you enable this on.

Depending upon the size of the company to Mike's point, lets say 100 or more PC's I would probably opt for Windows 2008 TS or Citrix server and publish the application that way rather than enable this feature on 100+ PC's and support now 200+ desktop OS 's provide the cost of the TS/Citrix server and cals was not more than than all of the extra software running on the XP VM's.