Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

Waethorn — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:11:12 GMT

Oh, and FYI: Despite what others are reporting (within the US, mind you) Bing still respects IP address restrictions from video sites ie. I can't see Hulu results.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

whiplash55 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:09:48 GMT

I still think Vista was a great OS especially compared to XP and Leopard, not to mention any iteration of Linux I've tried (which is most of them). But if if the PR wars are won by false advertising I'll concede MS lost this one.

But looks like they learned their lesson and new "laptop hunters" ads are quite good. The way they've marketed Win 7 is brilliant I think Apple will be back to low single digits in a few years, frankly I don't care either way but I think Windows 7 is going to kick some serious butt, especially if these prices hold true.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

Waethorn — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:09:35 GMT

"If Apple or Google did this, you'd call it "evil"."

Under fair use, it's acceptable to play an excerpt of a video so long as the original content creator says so. Obviously, sites like YouTube are the content providers here, so they are the responsible first-party that need to obtain IP rights. YouTube relenquishes responsibility for obtaining IP rights as part of the terms of service for posting anyway though, so it's entirely legal. YouTube and related sites don't block users from accessing public files. That goes for search engines and other public entities.

Oh, and Google already did Book Search with full transcriptions of entire books WITHOUT permission of the original content holders. That's copyright infringement, plain and simple. The books WERE NOT in the public domain, and they just started scanning them and posting them online. So yes, they are evil.

Besides, they do THE SAME DAMN THING - they both aggregate video feeds into their own page! (short of the thumbnail prevew). And here's a sampling to show you the difference in "safe" "***" searching. Notice that Google's is more risqué (probably NSFW, but it's Saturday, and who the he11 works on Saturday?!):

www.bing.com/.../search

video.google.ca/videosearch

....and Apple? Yes, according to Fox News, Apple is a search engine: gizmodo.com/.../fox-business-network-thinks-microsoft-and-apple-are-search-engines

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

chuckb84 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:09:14 GMT

Mike,

"We now return you to insulting each other and providing no data."

The data you provided are like this:

www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle

COMPLETELY irrelevant to what is being discussed. But, in the spirit of no insults, I also provide some data, of course, your post and my example are so completely removed from the topic that the "data" are really the same as "no data", because neither has any relevance.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

shark47 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:59:22 GMT

lotsa,

You've posted one side of the store, as was expected from you.

www.beet.tv/.../wow-bing-has-live-video-thumbnails-but-is-it-fair-use.html

" [The] feature is ... probably within the bounds of fair use. Our apologies."

www.beet.tv/.../bing-has-integrated-hulu-clips-and-player-.html

"Earlier this week, I reported that these thumbnails played full length and might be considered a violation of fair use. This is not correct, Microsoft has a technology which somehow samples segments from a clip and presents a short excerpt. I have amended my original post."'

I would've expected this from robertsjoe, but not from you.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

lotsamystuff — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:11:49 GMT

"bing has passed Yahoo! in US and global search share mostly by taking users from Google."

Nice OT post, "mikegalos". But since you brought it up, shall we discuss how Microsoft is "playing fast and loose" with IP rights via bing?

blogs.zdnet.com/Howell

If Apple or Google did this, you'd call it "evil". But being the good WinJihadist you are, I'm sure you'll find a way to justify it since it carries the Microsoft brand.

Discuss.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

DRWAM — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:47:16 GMT

Dang, Subzerohitman beat me to the punch [again]. Definitely agree that it's a good move by MS if true. BB has leaked a lot of true stuff in the past.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

shark47 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:15:24 GMT

@wjglenn141:

I think you've got it right.

@robertsjoe: The way the British, French, and Spanish governments treated their colonies before WWII (and even after) makes the US seem saintly in comparison.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

Andreas J — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:40:22 GMT

Great, I just bought a new netbook. (this does cover netbooks, right?)

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

Joe05 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:28:35 GMT

Wow.. this thread is way off course.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

g6672D — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:09:20 GMT

->Waethorn

Thanks. That's all that need to be said. :)

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

subzerohitman721 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:50:53 GMT

This sounds really good, but I'm only interested in the full versions of Microsoft Windows 7. So those interested in the upgrade path, this is definitely a nice decision by Microsoft. However, I'm still going to reserve judgement until we have something more definitive from Microsoft.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

robertsjoe — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:20:48 GMT

@dipshtadmin: "Of course, it isn't much different than any of the other governments around the world. Slow, bloated, costs too much, and boring."

Yes, that is true.

@shark47: "It's funny that even the worst US Government is orders of magnitude better than the best Governments in many countries. Of course, the US is responsible for bringing some of these Governments into power."

The US Government is better for its own people (which is understood). But not good to other countries, when it's killing the leaders and citizens in other countries. Invading or taking over to enforce their own agenda and points of view. Then I have a real dislike for the US government.

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

wjglenn141 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:16 GMT

>Regardless of what it says, or how it was said, many will see

>it in a negative way. Smart marketing people would have

>avoided it completely.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't about marketing people, is it? It's a leaked internal memo. It seems Best Buy is maybe telling employees how to approach people about it - to not come at it from a "Vista that works" angle. Or am I misreading?

re: Best Buy memo details Windows 7 some upgrade pricing

Lindy — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:06:22 GMT

@gorath

"Waethorn, the same happened with OSX itself, which many mac crazies seem to forget. I've had people preach at me that OSX is not in fact the second coming, but the first arrival of the one true god, as it would be foolhardy to believe that such perfection could be anything else (I paraphrase, but.... meh)

They all seem to forget the problems that were caused by the changeover from macOS to OSX."

How does this statement have anything to do with Best Buy's memo wording and info about the upgrade price of Windows 7??

My only comments about Apple were in response to what you said about them, and Wae's response to what you said. Even then my response was only about consumer satisfaction. I did not praise Apple or bash MS.

Who needs to grow up?