Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

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re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

Dipsh t Admin — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:20:32 GMT

"I'm just curious how real those numbers are though."

That's the point. These are all manufactured numbers that don't mean anything. Apple was trying to muster up the same type of exciement that was behind Firefox download day. The only difference was that the Firefox download day was all user supported, showing their support for the platform. Apple's was forced updates. And I use forced not to mean that they were taking over people's computers or something sinister. They were updating software with the approved Apple software updater. That's fine, but you can't make any argument about the significance of the numbers if they are not people truly interested in the software.

What will matter is the usage statistics going forward.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

bluewiggle — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:32:00 GMT

Kent, it's more to do with memory leaks after using the browser for a long time. In addition to this try opening a lot of tabs and see what the differences in memeory use are between Safari and Firefox. I can only do this on my Win machine, as I don't have a Mac anymore.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

kent909 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:16:23 GMT

bluewiggle said:

Nobody really cares about Safari on Win. Even most intelligent Mac users don't use Safara, because it is a terrible memory hog.

You peaked my interest on this statement. I opened both Safari and FF to the same home page. FF 87MB and Safari 108MB. Would not really consider that significant with only a 21MB difference. Unless you are talking about Safari for Windows. If that is the case, why? I would not use IE for the Mac if it existed.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

kent909 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:16:46 GMT

Master3 said:

So what exactly is the issue some of you have with this post? Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it.

It's the "nah nah nah nah nah" attitude that gets the response

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

DRWAM — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:17:17 GMT

FF obviously had most of the DL's from Windows users as there are not 150 million Mac users. It was all automatically done as well and done at nearly the same time. It all completed in a few days too, until the next update. However, an y speed test should show that Safari is much faster. I switched, but I hardly doubt that FF will ever replace my IE use. Ain't gonna happen and I not impressed that they did the same thing because most Mac users probably wanted to update Safari [most because the prior version stunk, but this one is sweet]. Of course, many FF users probably wanted the update too,,, to fix the bugs and improve speed. They got the volume but lost the race.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

misc@mchsi.com — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:48:25 GMT

While we're in the business here of questioning everything, do we have anything solid to backup those statements of 150 million Firefox downloads?

Of course Firefox has been gaining share...that's great! I'm just curious how real those numbers are though. Bandwidth for that many downloads monitored by them has to cost quite a bit.

For the record I use Firefox 8 hrs/day 5 days/week in my job. I absolutely love it but I try to stay above falling into this fanboy talk. I do have Safari installed at work and find the comments about Safari being installed forcefully to be rather extreme as I certainly had the option to unclick it before installing it. And, yes, I do work with Macs and can add that Safari is a pretty nice browser on the Mac...maybe some day it will catch up on the Windows side.

Peace.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

lotsamystuff — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:54:58 GMT

"Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it."

It's Paul's blog, he can put news about his dog farting if he wants. Apple put out a press release; it's the reaction from the WinJihadists that's so much fun to watch. If it's really irrelevant, then why do y'all care so much?

"Go blame Apple. It's their statement."

It was a statement of truth. Granted, it was pretty irrelevant, but it's not like they lied. Sheesh, people, is this all you have to complain about?

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

lotsamystuff — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:51:40 GMT

"They might be confused with "Apple Corps", which is the label for the Beatles."

Apple Inc. owns all the trademarks for "Apple", though, and licenses them back to Apple Corps.

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

Master3 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:05:33 GMT

Apple made a claim.

Mozilia called them on it

Cnet reported about it

Paul passed it on to us.

So what exactly is the issue some of you have with this post? Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it.

Go blame Apple. It's their statement. No one is under any obligation to cover for them when people start to dig into them for what they say.

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re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

DRWAM — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:27:23 GMT

Actually, the jokes on Asa Dotzler since Safari 4 is a lot faster than FF 3..0.11, which by the way also automatically updated on 3 of my computers!!!!! I did not check Safari's memory use, but I have 4 GB of RAM any way. I'm switching to Safari on a Mac. [and yes, I will not install Safari on Windows since IE is needed for work, and works just fine for me and the family. My 3 main PC's don't even have FifreFox intalled].

re: Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

kent909 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:13:53 GMT

The bigger question is does Paul own MS stock or Apple stock. Most people who trade stocks will say Apple is the better investment, even MS fanbois would wish they bought Apple last January.