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re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

robertsjoe — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:22:28 GMT

Microsoft Office is so retro. So 1980's

googlesystem.blogspot.com/.../retro-plastic-box.html

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

robertsjoe — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:16:22 GMT

@robertc: Using Word to render HTML emais? That's horrific!

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

RobertC — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:55:47 GMT

Robertsjoe, since you've never stepped foot outside of your mother's womb, you are not an authority on anything concerning the discussion adult business.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

robertsjoe — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:12:56 GMT

The Outlook team don't have a clue. See for yourself: http://fixoutlook.org/

How bad is that? Outlook, the new Lotus Notes.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

rr0de74@live.com — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:53:06 GMT

Outlook/Exchange feature set just cant be beat.

If you dont need those features, like delegates, public folders, resource management (conference rooms etc), full on calendar sharing and many more than gmail and others like MobileMe (for mac users) come close in many areas.

As many has said, OWA that come with Exchange 2007/2010 are vastly better than any webmail I have seen and as feature rich as the full Outlook 2003 fat client. At my company 75% of the users are TS clients and all they get is OWA 2007. We are seriously considering doing the same for almost everyone when 2010 drops. With most of our applications shrink wrapped and home grown are web based only (People Soft, custom sharepoint applications) its very easy to do.

Hosted Exchange is the best example of a cloud computing.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

tayme — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:16:22 GMT

@robertsjoe - See my previous post. In real world corporate environments that fall under the increasing government regulation, GMail is absolutely not even an option.

--tayme

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

tayme — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:14:57 GMT

Exchange/Outlook is so much more than just email. It has been said many times in this thread...Paule, you need to get out of the hotel rooms/trade shows/author mode and visit some real world companies that use real world tools to get real world jobs done. It this age of increasing government regulation, cloud computing is going to remain a very niche market. Try putting patient information, customer financial data, or sensitive information of any kind on Google's, Microsoft's, or any other third parties "Cloud" and see how your next audit, examination, or other regulatory visit goes...then let us know. Some sales people and tech evangelists may think that is another way of "being $h!tty at IT" or "letting my company's computing environment get stale and rot" but in reality, it is the way it really is in the US today. They just don't have any more real world experience than Paul does.

--tayme

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

robertsjoe — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:40:54 GMT

GMail is the best emai client (web or desktop) out there.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

robertsjoe — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:40:38 GMT

People still use Outlook? Outlook is the new Lotus Notes.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

winram — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:15:52 GMT

This is going to be interesting.

Paul - Outlook is not outdated. I believe in all sincerity that your viewpoint, however, is. Outlook is an amazing client that receives mail from email services like Exchange, GMail, and any other email service out there. This doesn't make them outdated, it makes them REPOSITORIES. You know, just like when you download mail with your iphone. See? Not the cloud, it's resident on your phone. Or in Live Mail. See? Not the cloud, but still not bad.

On some level, you can't just live on the cloud. Things have to be resident and have to be "owned". Corporations get that, which is why Outlook is preferred - policies, restrictions, requirements, etc can all be managed on a resident copy of the data. Even in the personal space, sure you can use GMail, but some/most people like having access to their mail regardless of a live internet connection.

Cloud computing only goes so far.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

Waethorn — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:40:09 GMT

"But if this guy had his head in the right place, he'd be helping people remove the single-PC lock of such legacy applications. Your data should be available everywhere. Sorting it in a single place doesn't really obviate the underlying inefficiency of using such an application."

Ya, you know Paul, cuz he should use his 13375K1LLZ to do what is really necessary for what you're asking for feasible and

MAKE THE INTERNET 10000x FASTER THAN IT IS!

Or maybe he's just trying to make email a bit more bearable on what is available right now.

@all:

Remember that Paul doesn't run this stuff on a day-to-day basis, so he doesn't know what businesses really need.

@Paul:

The internet isn't stable. That's a truth that every business understands.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

mikegalos@msn.com — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:07:24 GMT

Ribatu

It is always amusing to watch people suggest what comes down to (feel free to substitute inside the <> section):

"If <my favorite company> doesn't offer that <feature, product> you don't need it and are <stupid, tacky, "don't get it", "have no taste"> for asking for it. Sit down, shut up and do as you're told"

Of course it's only to justify their favorite company's lack of features and products but the consistant arrogance and insulting tone taken to justify a weak product is fun to watch. Especially a year or two later when their favorite company ships the missing feature and they then brag about what a great idea it is - now.

re: Xiant Filer for Microsoft Outlook

lketchum — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:05:45 GMT

Ribatu,

Respectfully, you've more than made my point for me.

Customers, ours specifically, do not have to maintain a thing. We do it for them - as do many great providers CLOSE to their customers. Microsoft itself has entered the channel, but they are no CLOSER to the customer than Google is. We are.

As I stated, technologies; however powerful they may be, mean very little to people and business. How they are used does matter. How they are integrated and face people in and outside of a business is where the value is.

As to "feature creep" - read the statement above again. Requirements, not features drive what we do. This is where Exchange, Office, and other member servers provide us and others the means to fully and quickly develop solutions that exactly match the requirements driven by the actual processes and work performed by people and their businesses. The power and options are not there yet with Google, or outside Microsoft - in every area of consideration from available people to employ, to the available members, servers, tools and third party additions to the platform - to costs, time to develop and deploy and the options to add, scale, or even collapse services, must be available. Microsoft has them all covered well and Google less well.

To say and face: "Gmail offers everything one needs" demands that what one wants is placed second to what one requires and wants. It stipulates that there is a feature set as defined by another and that is it.

That is not what it is to be human - to be so constrained and really, the modern "cloud" based computing model is not about Google and a fixed "good enough" feature set at all. The promise of "cloud" based computing is about the ability to develop not just for one cloud, but all clouds at once and in any fashion that one may need, or desires to have. In this context, Microsoft is decades ahead of Google. The platform is extensible and we face it to everything in both broad and very specific ways at the same time. Of course we have a platform - a base. We have fundamentals, but each is both open and consistent with a far great set of options. The bottom line is that not any two people or companies need the exact same thing. On Microsoft's platform, which includes Exchange/Outlook/Universal Messaging/Unified Communications, it is possible to create affordable solutions that others have not begun to imagine, much less build. Fixing people in one feature set, or looking at modern communications in that context is constraining and it forces us to deprecate our aspirations.

Finally, as someone within Microsoft, who observed my opinions and examples of this not at all new “modern way of cloud based work” noted and said: “What’s ours is yours.” He meant: “exactly! Someone gets it – keep doing the important work of facing solutions close to customers. Just use our cloud, too, when it becomes advantageous to do so.” He was speaking of course of federations and solutions leveraging existing and future capabilities that allow one to use whatever resources they need – my cloud, your cloud, their cloud, becoming our cloud and ultimately “The Cloud.” In my world and via RDC and Teredo, every computer is my computer and even DirectX is rendered “in the cloud” Mark my words: “Google is going to get its backside handed to it” Not by Microsoft, but an army of individuals creating cloud based solutions of their own. Microsoft will do as it has always done,

facilitate this value and remain wildly successful for having “shared” their cloud. Google? They’re already less relevant and they’ll fade about as quickly as they rose. That’s not just my bet, that’ll happen in small part because their definition of “evil” conflicts with my own. I think it IS “evil” to suggest that anyone except a pre-defined set of features and regard them as “good enough” – nothing is good enough, or ever should be. Not among people.