Windows 7 build 7264: Evidence of the E editions

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:33:44 GMT

shark

No. Not really.

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shark47 — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:01:21 GMT

"That should be 35M:1,200M installed base ratio."

You mean 75M:1,200M, don't you?

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:37:25 GMT

Oops

That should be 35M:1,200M installed base ratio.

or a 34 to 1 ratio

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mikegalos@msn.com — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:26:27 GMT

lketchum,

Effectively, the Windows ecosystem provides a huge range of soutions that share both development and management models from embedded controllers to laptops and desktops to servers to clustered supercomputers.

Mac OS X, on the other hand, shares the same problems as Macintosh hardware - a lack of flexibility of choices. In the same way that Macintosh is only a reasonable choice if you need precisely one of the limited choices of hardware Apple offers, Mac OS X is only a good fit if your needs fit one of their two choices of operating system products.

It's the difference between selecting a choice to fit your needs versus constraining your solution to match your limited choices.

Thus one of the reasons for the 3.5M:1,200M installed base ratio.

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Backup77 — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:21:53 GMT

Waethorn

O\T Thanks for the heads up re requiring a vista disk + sp1 per your instructions. You are correct the sysprep image has changed in SP1. I will certainly find this info useful for my work in the future.

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anonymuos — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:11:28 GMT

Paul, is that SKU comparison absolutely accurate? I think Home Premium doesn't have Fax & Scan and while it has Shadow Copy, it doesn't have Previous Versions. It also lacks Group Policy. Can you verify by actually installing Home Premium instead of the licensing utility? (If indeed it is accurate, then I'm happy to say Microsoft has got most of the feature distribution across SKUs correct with Windows 7).

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lketchum — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:55:11 GMT

@roberstjoe

"Hahaha how lame. They get worse and worse. OS X comes in 1 edition for home users. 1!!! Not 28!"

Since OS X is essentially Windows Vista/7 Home Premium, it's not appropriate to compare Windows Vista/7 versions to OS X.

With ~1.2 billion Windows users around the world, it is essential that there are versions of Windows, which are suitable for the many different types of users there are.

If you wanted to get really crazy, you could also include the many versions of Windows for devices - embedded, CE, XP Embedded, etc...

No "one" Windows works well for all people. Just as no one, or a few device forms work for all people.

The same is true of software and the stacks people/professionals and their companies use - they are all quite unique.

Windows, as a platform and the ecosystem around it are clear evidence as to how obviously true this is.

So many different needs, all supported by one "platform" accounts for why Windows is successful and installed on such a large percentage of computers. For the same reasons, only in reverse, is why there are so few Apple computers deployed relative to Windows PCs. It is not to say that for 3 or so percent of current computer users, that Apple does not provide products that work for that group of people - obviously it does. However, that small number of users surely commands what seems to me to be a disproportionate share of voice.

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robertsjoe — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:43:31 GMT

These are all essentially Windows 7 Sucker Edition. Which you'll all buy.

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robertsjoe — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:24:48 GMT

Hahaha how lame. They get worse and worse. OS X comes in 1 edition for home users. 1!!! Not 28!

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Waethorn — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:42:03 GMT

So far, Microsoft has stated that the E version won't ship with a media player, thereby consolidating the N version into the same product SKU.

They've also stated the same for the KN version of Windows 7 - there won't be separate K and KN versions.

Why they have differing licensing terms is probably just part of the RC and not official until RTM.

So unless there are other nations that want an N version without Windows Media Player (I don't know of any other than those in the EU), I don't expect it'll go beyond the standard version, the E version, and the K version.

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Waethorn — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:36:11 GMT

@TormDK:

You're thinking of the E version. The E version doesn't have either IE, or Media Player (starting with Windows 7 - Vista had IE though). It would normally be called EN, but that's confusing (it's the abbrev. used for English).