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RunTimeError — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:04:51 GMT

"why does Paul refuse to moderate this forum or let someone else moderate it?"

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re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

Dipsh t Admin — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:50:41 GMT

Rj, really? Why? Whether it is a true Tablet (which the Mac fans have often chided but will get excited if Stevie decides to do it) or a netbook, these have been in the market for a while. And if it is a netbook, they will have priced themselves very high. Either way, I don't see anything overly exciting or drool worthy. And since these claims have been floating around for quite some time, I would wait until it is actually announced, and not just unsubstantiated fanboy rumor.

re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

Master3 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:45:44 GMT

Time to bring out the ban hammer on robertsjoe and a few others. One of the reasons I sotpped coming to this site for a couple of months was because of these trolls.

re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

robertsjoe — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:09:47 GMT

Something to truly get excited about

www.engadget.com/.../apples-9-7-inch-netbook-to-debut-in-october-for-800

re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

de Silentio — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:09:24 GMT

@jddonner, realtestman, lostamystuff.

I, for once, thought if Ocean defined what trolling was and realized that he fell under his own definition, that it would stop. Even though I sometimes find enjoyment in the off-topic bickering, I also find it second rate compared to the kind of discussions that could be on the site.

I guess in trying to defeat the enemy I became the enemy, as so often happens. I apologize for aiding in lower the tone of this blog.

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shark47 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:30:07 GMT

"No idea because what I said would be shown would make the Terminal/Server model less appealing. And the Software + Services hybrid model shown today in Office 2010 including Office Web Applications and multi-user editing certainly do that."

Aren't web applications and multi-user editing all part of Google's suite already?

That said, I prefer Microsoft's Software+Services model to the Software As A Service model that other companies adopt. For example, Paul can go on and on about Outlook being the past, but there are a lot of features in Outlook that I like, when compared to a stark web based client like GMail.

Yes, web based applications are getting better over time, but as Office 2010 has demonstrated, so are desktop apps.

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lotsamystuff — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:16:53 GMT

"He's a troll"

"No, YOU'RE a troll"

"Sez you"

"Sez Wikipedia"

"I'm rubber and you're glue..."

"I know you are but what am I?"

"Terminal/Server is dead. Microsoft rules. Wanna see my Windows tattoo?"

"Where's Paul?"

re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

realtestman — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:28:55 GMT

jdonner, you're completely and utterly right. It's a pity the trolling comments here spoil and lower the tone of the comments section. You can't have a civil conversation about how Windows is progressing and about the article without silly people trying to bring the tone down.

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jdonner — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:08:05 GMT

I just joined to get something off my chest and no, I’m not a long time member registering under a different name.

First of this seems like a nice place, especially for professionals (I’m in the IT myself for over 21 years) to discuss the topics that this site focuses on.

I have a question and hopefully some long time members (but preferable Paul) can answer it.

I have seen quite some forums in my life, related to hobbies, computers, graphic design, Ebay, support, you name it. They basically all had one thing in common: moderation. I’ve also been a moderator myself and have also owned a pretty large forum myself so I think it’s fair of me to say that I do have some idea how to run a forum that keeps everybody happy as much as possible.

Now I know that this is not a forum, but still, even blog comments require moderation, because we’re still dealing with people and we all want to be treated with respect, right?

Please explain to me one thing; why does Paul refuse to moderate this forum or let someone else moderate it?

I’ve watched this forum for months and I keep seeing the same trolls stirring up the place, it even stopped me from registering, to one point that I even removed this site of my favourites list. Now call me crazy, but I even wondered if Paul was behind the trolls (to spice up the forum to get more traffic??), because it didn’t make any sense to me for him to allow this disruptive behaviour.

I’ve seen a few people that continuously annoy and frustrate others, week after week, month after month, sometimes resulting in the kindest of people showing their darker side out of frustration and just look at the above comments, has anyone any clue how childish some people are behaving?

Seriously, does it really have to be like this? And why has none of you ever discussed this problem with Paul or does he simply not care? Isn’t it just a lot more fun to have some great discussions, even if we don’t always agree?

However the disruptive behaviour I talk about is of course not about disagreeing with one another, it’s about some people really behaving like a troll and throwing all kind of bait (often off topic) with the one and only purpose to annoy people.

Are we mature enough to solve this issue or is the advice that I should go somewhere where respect for one another IS on the priority list?

re: Windows 7 announcement coming (Updated)

sjaak327 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:57:11 GMT

"For corporate users, XP is perfectly secure. Corporations have put many measures in place to shore up XP security, such as users with limited/no rights to their PC's. Multiple layers of firewall, proxy, and Antimailware protection between XP and what can harm it. Locked down PC's and locked down internet access."

Well, I work for a major company, and a few months back it became apparent that it isn't perfectly secure.

Furthermore running as locked down user is much harder to implement on XP, locked down internet access is in place at my corporation as well, but obviously not a protection against malicious websites.

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de Silentio — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:28:58 GMT

Ocean: "That you, De, and Mike should stop trolling."

Why am I trolling again? Perhaps I misunderstand the meaning of the term "trolling". Can you please explain what "trolling" is?

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rr0de74@live.com — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:08:32 GMT

I forgot to add proper patching. What we have in place today (Shavlik NetProtect) that updates our XP machines will also update our Windows 7 PC's when we finally go there.

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rr0de74@live.com — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:07:20 GMT

@backup77 "Its an enormous leap in security features alone over XP, not to mention it runs perfectly on older systems."

I totally agree with you for home users.

For corporate users, XP is perfectly secure. Corporations have put many measures in place to shore up XP security, such as users with limited/no rights to their PC's. Multiple layers of firewall, proxy, and Antimailware protection between XP and what can harm it. Locked down PC's and locked down internet access.

I know when we move to Windows 7 these same measures that are in place today will be in place with Windows 7. Its not like we are going to remove our proxy server that locks down internet access, or remove Antimalware from our clients, proxy server, or email servers. We are not going to let users be full Admins on their Windows 7 PC's, or remove the firewalls on our network.